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Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Danger posted:

great rec! I ordered a copy.

I too have 'ordered' a 'copy'

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Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Maximo Roboto posted:

the betrayal of Operation Barbarossa

Lol

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

camoseven posted:

Why does everyone hate Trotsky/Trotskyists?

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Sunny Side Up posted:

Something else I’ve noticed is that there’s a lot of culture warriors who are trots. Maybe that’s the wrong term. Like in Reason In Revolt, whole book is a phenomenal reevaluation of modern science and then they talk about morality and the USSR and take a hard right turn. Or Cockshott being a homophobic TERF. Trotskyism is like boomer brain type poo poo.

It's cause they love posturing and feeling clever, it's the same spirit as aloof centrism.

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Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Industrial wage labour is drastically more efficient than slave labour, paying the workers is a small price to pay for that

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012


How can it be a used grenade if it's still in one piece

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Mao having a sensible chuckle at Stalin being a drama queen

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Atrocious Joe posted:

Not sure I would have done a better job than Stalin if I was in his position tbh

I would simply have used my knowledge of the future past to tell everyone it collapses eventually so don't bother

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Mr. Lobe posted:

Possess or develop either of those and you'll do fine

gently caress

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Why does keeping the republicans out matter when the democrats appear to be functionally identical? Isn't that just lesser evil bs?

Disclaimer: not an American

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

croup coughfield posted:

we should be doing this yes

Wouldn't this just result in having an unfortunate traffic accident nobody gets prosecuted for? Based on what happened to the BLM crowd

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Maybe the toast lands butter side up more often, you never know, this is valuable science

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

MeatwadIsGod posted:

I'm reading a (not particularly good) book on Marx's philosophical/theoretical development, but it did have an interesting anecdote I was unaware of. Princess Vicky (Queen Victoria's daughter) was curious what Marx was like so she asked a Scottish MP to have a chat with him. This is the MP's letter to her the day after he and Marx talked for a few hours at the Devonshire Club.

This is great

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Marx was real but he was just a random nerd and all his theories were invented by extremists long after his death

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

croup coughfield posted:

re: commodity fetishism, remember that the entire purpose of a commodity's production is to be sold for exchange value. at its most basic, one can eliminate commodity fetishism by simply producing socially necessary goods and services as they're needed by the society in question, and being a worker in that society grants you access to it. those goods are no longer commodities because they are not produced for their exchange value. they're just products people need and are being produced to meet that need.

to give a really basic example, lets say you work at the toilet paper factory. being a worker gives you, i dunno, a red card or something that says "this guy does socially necessary labor". you work your shift, and on your way home you stop by the corner store. you grab some cigarettes and a quart of milk and at the counter, the cashier rings you up, scans your red card, and you're good to go. no money, no exchange value. the card and the cashier are there to track usage and consumption patterns to guide production.

in this example, your labor is explicitly what entitles you to access to the produce of society. there's no mystification inserted in the exchange for someone to manipulate or exploit. thus there are no commodities to fetishize.

I'm probably dumb as gently caress here but idk how this scenario doesn't result in a black market wherein people who don't qualify for certain goods but want them anyway use illicit means to get them

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

croup coughfield posted:

slavvy: we will solve the problem of conspicuous consumption and black markets and lusting for western decadence with brutal suppression by the police

Idk man people seem to just want stuff and the more you tell them they can't have it the more they want it, I don't think that's a capitalism thing so much as a monkey brains thing

Or do you like, make cocaine and porno a state supplied thing?

E: now that I think about it you can't really make cocaine without an international supply chain and a bunch of oppression so we'll go with meth or something, whatever you know what I mean

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Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

It makes sense, his back looks like a stylised saw blade

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