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# ¿ May 31, 2021 19:20 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 05:08 |
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a few DRUNK BONERS posted:You can prove a computer
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2021 10:05 |
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indigi posted:divorced from context, someone posting "I am finished with Destiny Vaush and Breadtube" would usually be a good thing Had me nodding along there for a second. Lol.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2021 21:07 |
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Yossarian-22 posted:I'm reading October by China Mieville who is probably a fan of Trotsky. Apparently the workers fought to abolish tipping during the February Revolution. lol that Trotsky thought he could inspire the same in the U.S. by being an rear end in a top hat I don't know a lot about Trotsky, but being an rear end in a top hat as a revolutionary act sounds like a lot of Trotzkyites you tend to run across.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2021 17:35 |
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dead gay comedy forums posted:to add on further, this has a lot to do with the marginalists coming up with elasticity, the cornerstone of neoclassical theory. Turns out that this was an amazing tool to actually plan for demand and was readily employed in other schools of economic thought more interested in changing things rather than observing I really need to read more Kalecki. I've only read his Political Aspects of Full Employment and that was pretty concise and topical.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2021 17:58 |
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lol
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2021 16:14 |
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John Charity Spring posted:. Comes from being riddled with cops probably.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2021 21:22 |
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splifyphus posted:it's not that 'it's communist as long as the government is communist' it's that a burgeoning superpower run by a party whose mass base and ultimate telos is communist and who has a structurally integral role in the world system is far, far better than many if not all possible alternatives. That's true for as far as it goes, but surely you could have made the same argument for the USSR? And yet in the end a faction that controlled some layers of the executive basically told the party to gently caress off and die and that was it. And you could argue that you already have the kernel of an oligarchic system in China while that only grew in the USSR after its fall.
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2021 10:05 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The most bitter thing about it is how close the Bolsheviks were to winning the Polish-Soviet war. Would that have really changed something in isolation? Edit: Not sure if interwar domino theory really holds water.
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2021 11:49 |
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Feels like we've been hosed since the SPD voted for those war credits.
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# ¿ Jun 25, 2021 12:06 |
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Wild that she'd just dox me like that.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2021 07:06 |
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https://twitter.com/asatarbair/status/1409523449861603329
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2021 17:41 |
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https://twitter.com/asatarbair/status/1409313735554916353 I'm just going to continue posting the Stalin guy.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2021 18:22 |
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https://twitter.com/asatarbair/status/1407933384857247746 Just get him an account.
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2021 19:00 |
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John Charity Spring posted:lol this is exactly what I expected would happen. I bailed on his podcast when he was uncritically repeating de Tocqueville's analysis of the French Revolution (that if there hadn't been a revolution the changes would have happened anyway without violence). the episode where he reverently read out the US Bill of Rights in its entirety didn't bode well either I liked how he laid out that the French king was encouraging war with Austria in the hope that France would lose and also how he wasn't a bad man when they lobbed his head off.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2021 10:15 |
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Comrade Koba posted:his podcasts are good but you absolutely have to pay 100% attention to everything he says or you’ll miss some tiny detail that’ll make everything that comes next extremely confusing. I think the correct way to pay attention to the English Civil War is "don't".
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2021 10:54 |
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Raskolnikov38 posted:please for the love of my sanity stop listening to history podcasts by lay morons and pick something from this list that says it’s made by actual academics I was looking for something about Byzantium. Thanks. Edit: lol though: ""Academic Podcast Roundup | H-Podcast | H-Net" posted:The History of Rome - A now completed 179-episode series tracing the history of Rome from start to finish, hosted by podcaster Mike Duncan.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2021 15:18 |
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Lol the Byzantine guy sounds extremely lib. "We identify with the common man" (about Americans). "I believe history is the story of individuals" goes on to quote a US president.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2021 15:36 |
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First two minutes of the actual podcast and he brings up the great "peaceful transition" in America. Can't do it, sorry.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2021 15:52 |
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Demon Semen posted:Is Thomas Piketty worth checking out? Specifically his books Capital in the 21st Century and Capital And Ideology? I never read it, but the historic data collection part is supposed to be pretty good if that's your thing. Don't think he has any great explanatory models, really.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2021 19:36 |
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Was listening to this: https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1411472957185069059 and they were roasting a guy who had a Bakunin poster, and they mention that Bakunin was a raging anti-Semitite, which I knew, but also that he had warm words for the US Confederates. Lol.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2021 17:53 |
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Mr. Lobe posted:after scanning various news sources, my best read is that the main driver of the protests is probably shortages and power blackouts. there's also some grievances being aired against how the cuban government generally handles dissent. but these grievances and these protests are being cynically exploited and amplified by foreign state powers interested in regime change. seems pretty rough for the people. Though the protests also don't seem that big? Even the NED human rights industry only talks of a hundred people being arrested.
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2021 16:15 |
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https://twitter.com/BrankoMilan/status/1423504537424384000
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2021 09:10 |
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"Jack" Ryan Xi, secret Clancy fan.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2021 10:07 |
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https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/status/1416215790173396997
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2021 11:02 |
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https://twitter.com/asatarbair/status/1428886414456807426
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2021 13:53 |
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Enjoy posted:the entire system was corrupt which is why it stagnated and collapsed. soviet citizens in the 1980s were unwilling to stick their heads over the parapets and save socialism because they were the descendents of the ones who survived the purges by keeping their heads down Lol. Is all I can say to this.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2021 21:32 |
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Not sure this is really the right thread for it, but is there any primer for the Sino-Soviet split? Seems to have screwed over everyone involved quite massively.
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2021 01:20 |
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I've just finished the State and Revolution and I can not avoid two conclusions: Lenin was a pedantic rear end in a top hat and certainly great fun at parties. Also, he's more right than wrong, even though the strict application of his definition of the state seems to vary a bit for the purpose of owning his enemies.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2021 21:38 |
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V. Illych L. posted:we should all aspire to be lenin but he was not a graceful loser. he also deliberately refused to allow himself to be moved by art so he could be a more perfect communist and that is not a normal thing to do Calling him stubborn is a close miss I think. But he will win those arguments, no matter if he has to scour all of Marx and Engel's works to find a quote to support him or make up a whole new minority faction he calls "the majority".
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2021 23:53 |
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Though more seriously, after reading the book I appreciate Lenin's definition of the state as the "special method of oppression" that must arise, and his practical program of having the armed proletariat smashing this instrument and replace it with their own. We have after all seen the failure of the second option over and over. What I'm not 100% convinced of is that his model of the state is actually Marx and Engels model, as he claims. I also wonder that in Chapter V the "..according to his needs" part only appears in a further step of true communism. Wouldn't a system set up to plan further capital development also have a good shot at figuring out those needs? Seems kind of arbitrary to start with equal reward for equal labor. Also kind of interesting that a lot of bourgeoisie laws are suddenly kept around in that chapter. Also a minor point: I remember Western commentators noting that the Red Army lacked Non Commissioned Officers and that is, according to them, supposed to have caused a lot of problems. Can that structure be traced to Lenin's insistence here that the standing arm has to go?
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2021 00:36 |
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Raine posted:what is this thread's take on firearms Every worker a nuke.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2021 19:56 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:Cross-posting this here because I keep bouncing around topics in the Eurasia thread. I've been listening to: https://soundcloud.com/thesocialistprogram/chinas-foreign-policy-complete-series-bonus-content-1949-today which is a six hour plus podcast about Chinese foreign policy. I got it from somewhere in CSPAM, so it might have been posted here already. What I get as China's key grievances: The USSR was genuinely concerned with not blowing up the world, but didn't bring China along to the negotiations with the US. With Korea, Tibet, and Taiwan, things were still pretty hot and close to home for the Chinese and they felt like they were getting sold out. In fact, when they signed the NPT, China was still a few years out from testing it's own bombs. China was pretty mad about Indonesia, while the USSR basically shrugged and went back to negotiate spheres of interest. At some point before the points above Khrushchev recalled Soviet advisors. The USSR didn't have their backs in the war with India.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2021 09:51 |
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crepeface posted:ha, I posted the same thing in response to gradenko when he posted that in the Eurasia thread: Hah, pretty sure I got it from that post. Just had the tab open with a vague memory that it's from CSPAM somewhere.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2021 12:10 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:thanks for all the input, folks! I knew that if I posted enough about the Sino-Soviet split we could lure out others to weigh in on it Yeah, great success. vyelkin posted:
Thanks for that. The Great Leap Forward didn't make an appearance in the overview podcast and that's really important context. That makes the withdrawal of advisors a bit less abrupt.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2021 22:04 |
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Red and Black posted:There's also this study from two years ago which seems to show a large uptick of support for the market economy in formerly communist states since 2010 I guess you you could add the ability to travel to the West and the collapse of the intrusive policing system under the headline of "change to capitalism"
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2021 13:02 |
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:seemed fun. good times for all but it had a certain "design-by-committee" vibe I notice that all the GRD songs I've ever heard have a part about the USSR. Actually, I looked it up and that song predates the GDR, but still: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYJmGaBMQJ8
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# ¿ Sep 21, 2021 17:30 |
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Red and Black posted:drat, different branches of same government coordinating with each other? I can't think of a single time when that happened Same, but unironical
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2021 13:53 |
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Fish of hemp posted:How would you have kept the Baltic states in the Union without bloodshed? And how much blood would the public be willing to shed over them? Wait, there was no lack of food in the 80ies, was there?
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2021 21:06 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 05:08 |
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genericnick posted:Wait, there was no lack of food in the 80ies, was there? quote:Soviet food imports: The growing necessity for change - ScienceDirect]This article provides an analysis of the structure and role of food imports in the USSR. The economic burden of external purchases of food is excessively heavy, but at the same time tension in the internal food market is so great, and the dependence on external purchases so strong, that ‘simple’ solutions to the problem are impossible. A radical change in the structure of imports is necessary to eliminate disproportions in the food sector and to improve nutritional standards. It is also necessary to make use of every kind of external economic relations developed by the world community. But all the measures taken must form part of a coherent foreign food policy. lol.
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# ¿ Sep 26, 2021 21:24 |