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May 16, 2021 05:01
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Enjoy posted:i used to laugh at the idea of "a liberal was mean to me so now i'm a racist", but flavius' behaviour has convinced me that the mods are in fact retarded pedophiles honestly think this has gone too far and beyond the pale, and we have to keep things in perspective and stop with the slurs. i don't know any mentally disabled people who are pedophiles. it stands to reason that the mods probably aren't mentally disabled (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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May 17, 2021 03:30
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Flavius Aetass posted:straight up cretins itt how was the thread supposed to infer your meaning there? none of us are familiar with this episode or which mod you're talking about right now. if you weren't so antagonistic and hostile all the time maybe you might be able to level with us like in the xinjiang thread Yossarian-22 has issued a correction as of 08:32 on May 18, 2021 |
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May 18, 2021 08:28
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Marx himself didn't dispute the possibility of incremental change as a means to building a socialist state but some of his acolytes surely did marx basically threw out the idea of incrementally winning socialism through elections after louis bonaparte became the first elected leader of the third republic
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May 18, 2021 23:00
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celot is going to turn me into a religious fundamentalist
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May 18, 2021 23:09
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Ferrinus posted:calling someone a moron or a cretin or even just a "dunderhead" is Problematic because it reproduces celot's understanding of the world in which some people are just unaccountably mentally defective and that explains why they don't do what you want them to do. i don't think it's reasonable to make all these things probatable or expect people to just cut each and every last word relating to thinking ability out of their vocabulary or whatever, especially since it's convenient to be able to call a plan cretinous or an idea idiotic. there's probably people who don't even want to see that usage, but whether you're "allowed to" or "should" say a word ultimately depends on whether enough present-day people don't want you to, not whether that word is innately bad this thread is starting to get really dumb
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May 19, 2021 19:13
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Lyon posted:unrelated and naive question, what do marxists think about crypto and its ability to potentially replace our existing financial and monetary institutions? it seems like removing control of these institutions from the hands of the wealthy and moving it to defi might benefit but it doesn’t really solve the issue of wealth inequality. would a decentralized financial system with a communist/socialist form of government be worthwhile or what happens to currency in general? the only good thing about all these stupid currencies is the blockchain technology behind it, which might be put to good use under socialism
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May 19, 2021 20:48
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Wouldn't swapping to crypto would actually grant financial institutions more power because the more money you have the more influence over the blockchain you have? every man a whale 
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May 19, 2021 21:10
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May 19, 2021 22:12
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indigi posted:that interview makes me not really like Deng as an interview subject/dude. idk he seems to have a lot of climber energy. reminds me of the recent Teddy Bridgewater interview lol. I don’t know enough about his reforms to have a strong opinion I mean he was purged twice during the cultural revolution and supported the mujahedeen as chairman but for some reason this thread likes him a lot better than Khrushchev. He was a right-leaning opportunist who more or less saw that reconciliation with the West was China's most pragmatic route during the 1980s
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May 21, 2021 20:15
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yung walken is a good lad and i don't think he is trying to inpugn marx, rather he is simply demonstrating that the impulse for communism has existed for a long time. people here are so insecure in their beliefs that they want to find invent enemies to dunk on based on tweets taken out of context, you love to see it folks!
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May 22, 2021 19:27
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Centrist Committee posted:yes pirate every book You can also convert epub files to mobi with calibre if you want a kindle friendly format
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May 23, 2021 21:04
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May 27, 2021 04:12
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exmarx posted:return of the jedi style montage of the ewoks, gungans, etc. saying the r word in celebration
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May 27, 2021 08:10
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hcYrtQPOvw
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May 27, 2021 08:46
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a lot of leadup when marx mostly wanted to remind people who fucks
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May 28, 2021 01:53
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malthusian thought was probably just an attempt to explain away his virginity
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May 28, 2021 01:54
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Didn't Timothy Leary work with the CIA at one point? That was a big eye opener for me
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May 30, 2021 04:24
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e-dt posted:Israel & Palestine need study John Lennon Imagine https://youtu.be/-DrSEyjBj1w
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May 30, 2021 18:42
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PoontifexMacksimus posted:Basically, local communal self governance can easily be incorporated into a capitalist system (as they will be weak enough to easily crush if needed). Is there anything in anarchism that isn't ultimately medievalist? I'd argue there are many anarchists who are about class struggle and believe in the Marxist idea of worker self-governance but are naive enough that they think you can simply skip the state phase entirely. Unfortunately the utopian thinking therein causes many to indulge in weird back to the earth agrarian fantasies, and the anarchists who are less dense probably become Marxists most (not necessarily all) of the time
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May 31, 2021 19:30
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death to hippies and also teetotaling moralists itt
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Jun 1, 2021 02:11
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Southpaugh posted:Decriminalisation is the only path forward for drug policy. Lotta weird moralising going on in this thread. Grow up and light a spliff nerds. best way to mobilize the working class is to find people drinking alcohol and tell them uh actually, your drinking is part and parcel of a libertarian mindset and counterrevolutionary
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Jun 2, 2021 17:39
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agree with them or not i understand why organizations aspiring to be vanguard parties have strict rules about drugs/alcohol within the org tbf because they are presumably going to bear the cross of the revolution, but having any kind of policy for the masses along those lines is essentially liberal paternalism. i'm all about destroying the distribution networks for drugs and putting the state in charge for the sake of regulation/limiting personal consumption though as long as it's done sensibly
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Jun 2, 2021 20:12
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Basically I'm all for the state getting involved in vices and shutting down gangsterism as long as they aren't eliminationist about the vice part. I think labelling vices as such and making them a high priority target is incredibly counterproductive and basically begs for a fierce reaction
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Jun 2, 2021 22:20
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didn't timothy leary work with the cia or some poo poo?
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Jun 5, 2021 11:16
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raspurtin posted:What happened to Daniel Noriega anyways? I remember way back in the 80s following the Nicaragua revolution and listening to "Sandinista!" by the Clash and believing that a new socialist paradise in central america was just around the corner. Now it's all killing students, locking up opposition candidates, evil dictator poo poo. A lot of things have gotten better since the Sandanistas took over, and much of their opposition has been sponsored by USAID. It's at the very least probably the most socially democratic state in central america. They have stupid abortion laws and other problems worth criticizing though
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Jun 10, 2021 06:12
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Yeah a whole lot happened since that clash song from 1980, such as at least a decade of civil war throughout Central America which was almost entirely the fault of the U.S. and its proxies
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Jun 10, 2021 06:50
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I've always heard that the Spanish republic was the aggressor against the Catalonian anarchists. The problem with them was that they were idiots and thought they could do their thing without taking any kind of state power
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Jun 10, 2021 18:28
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tokin opposition posted:What if there was an app that took in your hourly wage and replaced all monetary values in your browser with hours of labor to purchase labor value coin to da moon baby
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Jun 12, 2021 22:46
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editing post and adding filler bc wrong thread engels: most underrated marxist or what???
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Jun 12, 2021 23:02
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Zizek
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Jun 13, 2021 03:30
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2021 has been a good year for cspam
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Jun 19, 2021 07:44
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I'm reading October by China Mieville who is probably a fan of Trotsky. Apparently the workers fought to abolish tipping during the February Revolution. lol that Trotsky thought he could inspire the same in the U.S. by being an rear end in a top hat
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Jun 22, 2021 17:10
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genericnick posted:I don't know a lot about Trotsky, but being an rear end in a top hat as a revolutionary act sounds like a lot of Trotzkyites you tend to run across. Some Trotskyist parties take this to an extra level in order to abolish the patriarchy!
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Jun 22, 2021 17:45
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Deified Data posted:Please don't tell me Mieville is a trot he's a big part of why I'm any kind of leftist today lol I have no idea and I'd say there are good Trots who mostly just adhere to the line because of believing in internationalism above all else which I'm sympathetic to. Mieville seems to think Trotsky was brilliant but also super abrasive and hard to get along with from my reading of October so far
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Jun 22, 2021 17:49
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Like 90% of Marxist academics and authors prefer Trotsky to Stalin so I'm not sure why that would be devastating news but I figured I would mention it for Mieville
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Jun 22, 2021 18:33
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belgend posted:Citation needed Sorry should have said Western authors
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Jun 22, 2021 18:43
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While I'm sympathetic to the idea of international/permanent revolution I find it funny how Trotskyists get hung up on Stalin's death toll the way liberals do. They honestly think an international revolution wouldn't result in rivers of blood? Own up to your drat ideology It's fine and all to get hung up on socialist states "degenerating" into state capitalism or what have you but I think it's embarrassing that some people try to sell Trotsky to libs as a Gandhi like figure who wasn't every bit as ruthless. The Bolsheviks were going to take power away from the Soviets after the Russian Civil War regardless of who was in charge, and there probably would have been a programme of ruthless industrialization under Trotsky as well. For whatever Stalin's faults were they amounted to nothing compared to the material reality of Russia during his rule Yossarian-22 has issued a correction as of 19:44 on Jun 22, 2021 |
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Jun 22, 2021 19:38
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Demon Semen posted:Stalin successfully kept the world’s first socialist state alive through hostile capitalist encirclement, the Great Depression, industrialization, and World War II (not to mention saving this world from Nazi Germany’s industrial genocide programs) — followed by the creation of the Eastern Block and his recognition of Mao’s PRC. Nobody in history has been a bigger pain in the rear end for capital than Stalin, hence why he is so maligned. Capitalists collaborated with Stalin plenty. Even the founder of Koch Industries invested in Russia in 1928 Russia surviving the Great Depression and winning the war is a testament to the effectiveness of Stalin's state planning though. It's remarkable that the USSR survived that and the Russian Civil War (you can thank Lenin and Trotsky for that one)
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Jun 23, 2021 08:14
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I still don't understand the "antirevisionists" who despise Khrushchev but love Dengists. poo poo makes no sense
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Jun 23, 2021 19:11
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