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fart simpson posted:does anyone have the old op’s reading list still? that was a good list and i was slowly working through some of it https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Y1F0euiOlqIJ:[url posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php%3Fthreadid%3D3760900+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us[/url]]
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# ¿ May 16, 2021 04:52 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 23:17 |
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Fortaleza posted:The word is just used as a weapon against bad mods with thin skin and piss poor reading comprehension. If they were to not touch this thread and gently caress off it would trickle to nothing. You ever see it used agains gradenko or brutalistmacdonalds or tiler kiwi? They come correct and back their poo poo up and are good posters. Nah, it’s just some lighthearted political persecution among friends
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# ¿ May 17, 2021 05:15 |
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weast posted:you say co-opted but it always was exactly that if you go carrying pictures of chairman mao you ain’t gonna make it with anyone anyhow taxman!!
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# ¿ May 30, 2021 08:31 |
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# ¿ May 31, 2021 04:30 |
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tokin opposition posted:Didn't read any of the posts itt, smoked weed instead. you are the pockmarked face of the failure of the left in the United States, successfully dismantled for the 20th time, this time by a sticky, clinking handful of 510 carts and $40 ounces of high-potency shake.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2021 08:13 |
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“alternative to what?”
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2021 14:44 |
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Dr Michael Parenti Dr Jill Biden Noam Chumpsky
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2021 14:54 |
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Truga posted:the funniest thing about european racism to me is how everyone in europ is pink have you been to Europe?
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2021 16:33 |
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Truga posted:yeah i live here, it's a joke op there’s some good variation. I’m sorry about your eyes.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2021 16:39 |
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I’m pretty sure the only Bolshevik who may have done pot or psychedelics would have been Trotsky. The results are plain to see.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2021 22:22 |
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wasn’t kollontai a bit of a prude? idk. I think Trotsky could have in Mexico to impress a woman.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2021 22:33 |
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my aunt and uncle were hippies and still do pot and peyote and mushrooms whilst listening to Cream. they live in Orange County and voted for Amy Klobuchar in the primary. they also got covid through their frivolous actions. so goes the story of the hippies.
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2021 23:06 |
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it’s different if you prefix it with “mental”
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# ¿ Jun 8, 2021 03:51 |
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I found a Trot meme group m
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# ¿ Jun 28, 2021 15:39 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:Richard "laying" Pipes his son sucks even harder. runs in the family I like Richard’s book on Russia under the old regime when I read it because it was fun, but it’s been a long time so I don’t remember how much of it was some kind of hosed up propaganda
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2021 15:31 |
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no and he never read marx
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2021 19:16 |
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it’s the ancestor of meow meow
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2021 05:01 |
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Dreddout posted:Wtf are you talking about the CPUSA was influential enough in the 20s and 30s to scare the bourgeois into the new deal. I don’t have time to read a history book on a failed movement, I have enough of those in the bathroom. What did they do to scare the bourgeoisie into the New Deal?
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2021 18:07 |
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Dreddout posted:If you're an American leftist you absolutely should read about what didn't work in the past in your country. Otherwise you're just going to repeat their mistakes to worse results. Not American. I have a hard time discerning whether CPUSA was actually responsible for the organizing done by the unions or whether they only claim to be. What I have seen of American leftist groups is that they love taking credit for things they haven’t really done or just glommed on to as an extreme minority. They do this in the present and give themselves credit for past victories by other people. I have seen DSA and SA do this, I have seen ISO do this, I would probably see PSL do this if I looked carefully. So whenever someone makes a claim about a party in America it takes a really long time to verify if what they said is actually true.
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2021 18:37 |
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Top City Homo posted:https://bookshop.org/books/hammer-and-hoe-alabama-communists-during-the-great-depression/9781469625485 Thanks. I skimmed this a bit and while it’s well written it doesn’t seem to say how Communist Party had any significant impact on the New Deal. At anything more than a local level or personal involvement of particular members in some unions and actions, at the national level they didn’t seem to have much influence. quote:...county leadership adopted many of the strategies and tactics used by the unemployed councils during the early 1930s. Local alliance organizers confronted the Department of Water and Power when individual workers faced utilities shutoffs, created committees to settle problems with relief officials, and tried to deal directly with local WPA authorities regarding working conditions, wages, and pay schedules.l4 But because the Party's support for the New Deal had been consolidated, especially during 1938, Communist leadership now discouraged wildcat strikes and walkouts on WPA projects. Moreover, the Workers Alliance at the national level devel- oped a narrower approach to activism than the Party had originally con- ceived, evolving into essentially a "trade union for the WPAworkers." Such an approach proved largely ineffective because, as a government relief agency, the WPA did not depend on profits and a continuous flow of labor for its survival. Alliance members were still subject to the whims and caprices of local administrators. As one Bessemer woman put it, local authorities continued to "resort to all sorts of excuse and pretxts [sic] for denying relief or for dropping Negroes from the releifs [sic] rol~s." The book has many more examples that all end in “proved largely ineffective.” I can’t find anything about how the party specifically impacted the New Deal, and the organizations that did appear to have an influence, like the United Mine Workers, weren’t really associated with any socialist party and they purged socialists from their ranks. At the time they could ha e had an influence, CPUSA discouraged actions and generally supported Roosevelt in his presidential campaigns, mostly on the DL. This is basically what a lot of DSA did last year and the tatters of CPUSA (not to mention RCP) did the same non-endorsement endorsement: https://www.cpusa.org/party_voices/the-youth-vote-and-the-socialist-moment/ posted:
We know how that turned out.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2021 04:14 |
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indigi posted:it doesn’t say that though, it says it characterized left thought throughout the 20th century. where did it rise to, super-characterization? meta-characterization? think what you will about whether they characterize left thought or not, but if the blurb mentions Theodor Adorno and Walter Benjamin, and if you have no clue why they might have felt a sense of loss, go on and have a gander at their Wkipædia pages and then it might be clearer.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2021 01:42 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The perfect Trotsky is Timothée Chalamet.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2021 21:17 |
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Larry Parrish posted:if they were down with eugenics they were not Marxists because it's an inherently anti-egalitarian practice that basically postulates that most people are worthless. kind of the extreme opposite of marxism bold of you to say that of Alexandria Ocasio-Kollontai, someone who has a section for them on Marxists dot org https://www.marxists.org/archive/kollonta/1921/prostitution.htm posted:At a joint meeting of the department of maternity protection and the women’s department, Professor Kol’tsov spoke about eugenics, the science of maintaining and improving the health of humanity. Prostitution is closely connected with this problem, since it is one of the main ways in which infections are spread. The theses of the interdepartmental commission on the struggle against prostitution point out that the development of special measures to fight venereal diseases is an urgent task. Steps must of course be taken to deal with all sources of the diseases, and not solely with prostitution in the way that hypocritical bourgeois society does. But although the diseases are spread to some extent by everyday circumstances, it is nevertheless essential to give everyone a clear idea of the role prostitution plays. https://www.marxists.org/archive/kollonta/1921/theses-morality.htm posted:In the transitional period, relations between men and women must. in order to meet the interests of the workers’ collective, he based on the following considerations. quote:Science has discovered that when a woman has relationships with many men at one time, her ability to have children is impaired; and relationships with a number of women drain the main and affect the health of his children negatively. Since the workers’ collective needs strong and healthy men and women. such arrangements of sexual life are not in its interests.
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2021 21:26 |
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John Charity Spring posted:Speaking as someone who flirted with Trotskyism for a short while about 10 years ago, Trotskyism is an easy fit for any western liberal who's radicalising but doesn't want to confront a lot of anti-communist propaganda directed at states like the USSR or China. It lets you position yourself firmly at Real Communism Hasn't Been Tried. Also a basic grasp of 'permanent revolution' is appealing because of its urgency and call-to-action; even though no action has ever followed from it, it gives a compelling extra 'socialist' dimension to add on to the anti-communist critiques of Stalin etc; that they didn't do enough to spread the revolution. Also a lot of Trotskyist arguments and positions are very similar to those advanced by 'democratic socialists' like George Orwell who I was also into for a bit in my early twenties. It's a kind of left-wing viewpoint that doesn't challenge too much liberal orthodoxy; much like anarchism, it's attractive in places like the UK and USA for that reason. I was in SA for four months and felt iffy about the foreign policy stances but it felt like I was “doing something” in my own city/state (and they have achieved some things in WA, but no socialism ) and this sounds about right for most people who are involved. the foreign policy of active opposition to CCP, especially for HK , was hard to ignore while joining and glossed over if you asked about it. then covid happened and it became impossible to ignore that most of was written in their paper about China was incorrect, plagiarized, and in service of something other than socialism, and that was that. the camaraderie was nice and I miss it. oh well.
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2021 18:14 |
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real David Brooks hours
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2021 20:15 |
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it seems like a personal tendency toward a kind of idealism shared with proudly defeated/self-defeating liberals
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2021 23:57 |
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i was searching for "leon trotsky mario" and ended up here. hths
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2021 21:49 |
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gulag
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# ¿ Aug 8, 2021 18:00 |
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that’s kind of a vast oversimplification of Wolff imo but I have no time to respond
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2021 18:30 |
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wolff's class analysis is the only convincing analysis i've seen of marxism that doesn't conflate class with power or ownership, i really recommend reading it yourself instead of clippings from a college newspaper. while resnick and wolff reject aspects of lenin's econonic determism i'd feel comfortable calling them leninists and they would also. knowledge and class is a good start that lays out their epistemological method. mawarannahr has issued a correction as of 19:11 on Aug 23, 2021 |
# ¿ Aug 23, 2021 18:55 |
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the vocabulary and concepts they use to specify capitalism is a little different than what most would consider so it’s pretty open to misinterpretation but they do trace it all back to Marx. it’s just stupid to look at some lines here and there on Twitter by people who have been democratic socialists for two years or some poo poo. they are gadflies who have thrived on this attention but they were among like five people doing any study of Marxism in America for decades. you have them and sweezy and … who else?
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# ¿ Aug 23, 2021 19:14 |
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Marx was just trying to cope
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2021 19:51 |
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lmao communism is winning by doing next to nothing
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2021 21:11 |
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anyone who says “muh” instead of “my” gets a field trip to the parts of Siberia that are on fire
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2021 19:32 |
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I was moved by Brace Belden’s interview with Brandon Lee to donate to his gofundme. He is a comrade in need rendered quadriplegic by the Philippine state:https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-4-brandon-lee-campaign posted:Our beloved friend, Brandon Lee was shot on August 6th, 2019 at his home in Lagawe, Ifugao. He sustained multiple gunshot wounds. He has undergone operation and is in very critical condition. other links provided in show notes: quote:
I have no idea about these human rights organizations, perhaps gradenko has some knowledge of them. The guy sounds really hosed up and will probably require long term intensive medical care and face lifelong disability in the United States. idk about writing to Nancy Pelosi.
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2021 04:12 |
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V. Illych L. posted:we should all aspire to be lenin but he was not a graceful loser. he also deliberately refused to allow himself to be moved by art so he could be a more perfect communist and that is not a normal thing to do this passage from what is to be done does point to kind of a struggle in the adjacent area of dreams, would be interested to read his thoughts on art quote:“We should dream!” I wrote these words and became alarmed. I imagined myself sitting at a “unity conference” and opposite me were the Rabocheye Dyelo editors and contributors. Comrade Martynov rises and, turning to me, says sternly: “Permit me to ask you, has an autonomous editorial board the right to dream without first soliciting the opinion of the Party committees?” He is followed by Comrade Krichevsky; who (philosophically deepening Comrade Martynov, who long ago rendered Comrade Plekhanov more profound) continues even more sternly: “I go further. I ask, has a Marxist any right at all to dream, knowing that according to Marx, mankind always sets itself the tasks it can solve and that tactics is a process of the growth of Party tasks which grow together with the Party?” mawarannahr has issued a correction as of 23:17 on Sep 1, 2021 |
# ¿ Sep 1, 2021 23:14 |
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Centrist Committee posted:PSL just did a new series that I’ve heard good things about. I haven’t listened to it though. https://liberationschool.org/reading-capital-with-comrades-podcast/ PSL sounded interesting to me after DSA and SA but they seem to largely be academics with a terfy vibe and tiny (minuscule) actions with a lot of emphasis on stuff like boycotting Starbucks. to their credit they care more about anti imperialism than others, especially for a Trotskyist organization, but it all seems kind of a pointless enterprise. their most visible actions lately are in support of Gavin Newsom against the recall.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2021 18:10 |
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indigi posted:against the recall in total or against recalling Newsom specifically? I read that the recall election is gonna cost like a quarter billion dollars which seems like a pretty good reason to be against it, but agitating on behalf of Newsom winning seems braindead https://twitter.com/PSLSanDiego/status/1430011047436455937?s=20 https://www.liberationnews.org/psl-statement-on-california-recall-election/?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true Gorman Thomas posted:PSL aren't a trotskyist org iirc, a proper reduction of their views is probably closer to Stalinist but they aren't Stalinists either lok. My local chapter is anti-revisionist and pretty sympathetic towards the the modern CPC. I think they're the only left org in my area that view China as a legitimate socialist project Trotskyist by nature since its roots in the SWP, but possibly nurtured out of it by haphazard ideology
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2021 19:44 |
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you have to take the silt strider to Shanghai where the local guild leader will give you a mission to bring ten capitalist roader tails, which you can then craft into a mao suit if you want. note that the suit cannot be enchanted.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2021 22:57 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 23:17 |
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it’s bad when reactionaries have them. gun ownership is encouraged among them and gun-related activities are, too, and a lot of stuff around gun culture in the USA is connected to the military and police. I believe the gender roles and values encouraged by reactionary culture in an individualist society also contribute to gun culture and ownership. on the liberal side there’s a lot more I’m too tired to cover, but their resistance is to some degree calculated in a way that by design fails to protect and suppresses exploited people who need to defend themselves. as to those exploited people, activists, and leftists generally — arms have historically brought severe state attention in capitalist countries, and in some cases are used by undercover agents to sting people, so there can be a sense of justified caution or even paranoia. i personally believe most people in comfortable settings isolated from violence are unlikely to view violent actions favorably and non-violence has been a long-standing, intentionally enforced (by liberals and people influenced by them ) current in activism since the late 70s or so. if you live somewhere where “lives are cheap,” where people you know are being killed, you recognize the devastating power and its potential consequences, and you might be more prepared to fight back for survival.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2021 21:46 |