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mao was down for it
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Jan 25, 2024 01:48
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In Training posted:cracked open Foreigner's Guide to Socialism with Chinese Characteristics and it's fairly sick. thanks for putting the work in Roland I keep trying to find that in piratable epub format but alas,
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Jan 25, 2024 17:47
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mila kunis posted:with the amount of manpower the cpc has its disposal they should dedicate some ppl to this imo ben norton is going to school at a chinese university, i imagine that’s about as close to cadre training as it gets
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Jan 26, 2024 22:28
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I’ve always thought wage labor and capital is a good starting point
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Feb 2, 2024 20:13
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Bald Stalin posted:Why do organisations in Europe and the colonies spend time debating whether or not to support or criticize China? How does it help organise and struggle in their own countries? america is exceptionalism
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Feb 3, 2024 01:50
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yep
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Feb 3, 2024 19:17
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agreed edit: no
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Feb 6, 2024 21:55
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BillsPhoenix posted:Ah OK, I see. I'm not criticizing the theory for addressing racism or sexism. are you looking at graphs of the stonk market and confusing that for the rate of profit?
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Feb 7, 2024 01:32
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gonna be honest, I don’t know what you’re asserting, what you disagree with, who you’ve read or are reading, why you’re asking, etc. not trying to dunk just don’t have any idea with how to engage with what you’re throwing down
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Feb 7, 2024 23:39
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im going to write volume 5
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Feb 8, 2024 00:10
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The Voice of Labor posted:in a glorious socialist utopia the rate of profit won't be declining because profit will be a nonapplicable concept. but earth's still a closed system. what's the end game; continued diminishing returns but called something else, stasis because the level of material development is comfortable enough that no one really longs for more, "stasis" because intellectual labor power among fully realized human beings is so highly developed that constant better ways to do things offsets diminishing resources? nature generates abundance, we have no idea what the thermodynamic potential of the planet is
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Feb 9, 2024 08:06
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The Voice of Labor posted:lol no. also no. safe guarding against scarcity is the reason societies exist and the raison d'etre of most of human activity scarcity is an ideological byproduct of class society, a relatively recent development in the context of “human activity”. marx talked about it in that book he wrote about ghosts haunting europe
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Feb 10, 2024 04:48
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The Voice of Labor posted:lol try feeding yourself and keeping yourself warm no
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Feb 10, 2024 05:08
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Halser posted:Somehow, Communism returned like a fuckin specter!
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Feb 15, 2024 22:41
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yah people who recognize contradictions but cannot differentiate between them make for difficult people to organize with
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Feb 15, 2024 22:59
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crepeface posted:i assume financial capital is trying to worm its way into the formation of any global institutions to subvert it yes it’s mentioned frequently that us institutions are resisting cbdcs because it explicitly undermines the avarice of private banks
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Feb 21, 2024 16:06
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your a moron e: beaten
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Feb 22, 2024 21:15
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I bounced off capital a few times. I succeeded when I skipped the introductions and gave up the idea I was going to “get it” all at once. reading capital is a mindset imo
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Feb 23, 2024 17:22
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BillsPhoenix posted:Last reply as there's good discussions going on. good shoot
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Feb 24, 2024 01:42
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quote specific passages you’re struggling with or gently caress off, imo
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Mar 7, 2024 01:42
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BillsPhoenix posted:I'm just trying to understand if something can have a use value, then lose that use value as a result of an external change. it’s called fashion, sweaty… you’re being too reductive in what use value is, trying to pin down the essence of a coat or whatever. it’s just something people want (to keep the rain out) or need (to be cool). the quantization you’re looking for comes from the labor needed to produce the coat
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Mar 7, 2024 23:50
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dead gay comedy forums posted:I was letting to marinate for a bit more because I wanted to see where it was going with it it’s good to tax the gimmick
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Mar 8, 2024 02:17
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time to raise the probe tax -karl marx
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Mar 8, 2024 20:57
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BillsPhoenix posted:No one can even answer the first game theory question, ain't no way we can do diffeq econometric models with incomplete information modeling. how much do you make
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Mar 8, 2024 22:08
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Ferrinus posted:another socialist text i read recently was this one by che guevara: https://www.marxists.org/archive/guevara/1962/09/misc/x01.htm this piece hits hard rn
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Mar 11, 2024 01:12
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imagine four marx quotes on the edge of a cliff…
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Mar 12, 2024 01:52
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Rodney The Yam II posted:I'm Marx well then maybe you’d like to explain to bp why you’re wrong? hmmmm???
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Mar 12, 2024 20:32
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shitposting but i always thought of the transformation problem as one of those academic busy boxes for “marxian” economists who wont go near the political like bitch does this make you want to rise up against the bourgeoisie or not
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Mar 13, 2024 15:36
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dead gay comedy forums posted:like, reminder: the theory is to help you understand the social reality of the world from its material circumstances, it isn't going to do anything by itself. After a point if somebody thinks "actually I must read more" before joining the union of their profession, checking out what organizations there might be around their area, if there's a socialist party, they are missing "the point is to change it" part yes, the discussion itt is good and i love a good cockshott lecture as much as the next person but also dont neglect ur mao: no book worship! you learn by doing actually doing poo poo!!! e: my dad posted:e: Basically, I'm just trying to emphasize that the theory and practice both exist for a reason, and that neither is something to be neglected. Mandel Brotset has issued a correction as of 16:30 on Mar 13, 2024 |
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Mar 13, 2024 16:26
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stumblebum posted:has there been any good marxist hypotheses on the particular nature of human society's first class conflict? im under the sourceless impression that it was forager-cultivator vs pillager-rancher, but im not sure if im just projecting the agrarian-pastoralist conflict back in time inappropriately. if there's no good info on a first/original class conflict, what would be the oldest class conflict(s) that had been identified and described by marxist history? engels (origin of the family) and federici (caliban and the witch) would argue it was the subjugation of women that enabled private property to really take off
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Mar 22, 2024 17:25
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mycomancy posted:I've not read either (but I will now!), so is there a concise reason for why the subjection of women was the opening shot? Like, is it simply that masculine-skewed humans tend to be stronger on average than feminine-skewed humans? Forgive the weird terminology, trying to be inclusive. my recollection is that as “humanity” separated from “nature,” society developed in complex ways to ensure healthy gene pools. so, eliminating incest, norms for how tribes intermingled, etc. lineage wasn’t well defined, no one really knew who fathered who, and so it wasn’t really possible to accumulate private property and pass it down along family lines. property was held communally (or matrilineally). patriarchy was the innovation in social relations needed to really jumpstart private accumulation and the class societies we know and love today.
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Mar 22, 2024 20:16
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DeimosRising posted:how did complex/class society emerge is basically the core question of the entire field of anthropological archaeology yeah david graeber’s books are basically all about how vast, varied, complex, and differentiated early human societies were. historically there have been all kinds of social arrangements. it’s not as simple as “and then agriculture happened.” but where graeber falls short is that the end of the day it doesn’t really matter exactly how class society took root, it’s what we have to deal with, and only marxism has an answer for what is to be done
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Mar 22, 2024 20:23
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oh yeah that was a real aha and 🤯 section for me
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Mar 31, 2024 18:21
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Cuttlefush posted:absolutely oh god I need to reread
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Apr 1, 2024 06:43
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marx also wrote about the tendency toward monopoly, and interestingly, lenin wrote about what happens when you get a lot of monopoly action going within an economy…
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Apr 5, 2024 20:10
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yah one of the cool things about marx is he managed to prove “the economy” is a real, material thing with thermodynamic properties like socially necessary labor time and the tendency of the rate of profit to fall. like air molecules in a room, once I realized capitalism was an analogous object, a lot of the variations in pay or price suddenly made a lot more sense. like of course there are local variations, that’s the whole basis of statistical properties.
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Apr 6, 2024 05:13
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what have you been reading since last time bp
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Apr 8, 2024 22:25
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ive never felt like ive really had a good understanding of “commodity fetishism” tbh, its one of those things ive been meaning to re-read someday
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Apr 12, 2024 14:55
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The Voice of Labor posted:missiles and bombs back when david harvey was still casting pods he used to talk about military expenditures as surplus destruction. in 1991 is was the so-called peace dividend. in 2024 it is why americans don’t have free healthcare. different meme, same outcome: capitalists would rather literally destroy social surplus than put it to socially beneficial uses
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Apr 12, 2024 18:24
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double nine posted:is this dialectics? 🦋
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Apr 17, 2024 14:12
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