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Argas
Jan 13, 2008
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There was a video recently about the history of antivaxx (primarily concentrating on the assfucks that kicked it off, and the complicit media circus around it) and there's basically two elements to vaccine hesitation. You're always going to have people who are antivaxx, whether just in rhetoric or actually in practice. This number grew way larger than before after bullshit former doctor Wakefield completely made poo poo up. Some of this is due to genuine legitimate distrust of the government/corporation that goes back to how a person or their cultural group has a history of mistreatment. You can't really fight this very well as long as governments aren't actually interested in reparations.

The other factor are people who are hesitant for whatever reason. Usually it's just osmosis of antivaxx beliefs through society. It's kind of the typical behavior with people hedging their bets. People who don't obsessively believe in superstitions but still try to avoid things that may bring them bad luck if it's not too inconvenient. They fall to peer pressure and in Canada we're definitely going to see some of that peer pressure coming from how a lot of people in the US have their second dose already.

Wakefield's bullshit plunged the UK rate of vaccination temporarily before it recovered in the aftermath of Wakefield being exposed as a complete scam who wanted to make money. Unfortunately the fucker went to the US and peddled his poo poo there.

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Argas
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Capitalists understand that money can be an incentive yet are always confused at how to motivate people.

:thunk:

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Trump's racism didn't stop him from making big gains with minorities, some of which were directly targeted by his racist tirades. That sort of thing usually does backfire on the racist.

Argas
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I was almost 20m late and nobody gave a poo poo.

Argas
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We as a society respect individual choice and our ability to make boneheaded decisions a bit much.

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ChickenDoodle posted:

I used to have faith, cause there was none anywhere else. Watching the updates got me through the first two months of isolation. But then they started being condescending, and then loving the numbers, and then Horgan won the majority and the mask completely fell off.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want the Liberals in charge, but I wouldn’t say no to kicking Premier Boomer in the balls either.

Same. My sister is a teacher too and we've been really pissed at the BCNDP since before covid but the pandemic just took that to new heights.

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Alctel posted:

The problem with the BCNDP is that they are kind of lovely but the BCLiberals are maybe the shittiest provincial party to ever exist (or at least the most corrupt).

Like you can be pretty lovely and still not as bad as lying and saying researchers who disagreed with you were under RCMP investigation (completely untrue but one of them killed themselves over the stress), or just happening to disband the corruption task force right after they started investigating the jaw-dropping amount of money being laundered through real estate/casinos, or lying about the deficit by half a billion, or using public funds to collect data to run their campaign on, or or or (seriously it just goes on and on)

Also some parts of what the BCNDP have done is actually really pretty good, but anything relating to resources/environment they are loving terrible (although the fish farms are finally, FINALLY loving off), and Horgan is basically Boomers Personified

Oh before the BCNDP took power we knew that Libs were just the worst. We don't miss them at all.

It's just that the BCNDP has not been the breath of fresh air we hoped for. We know that some things are plain better but with her being a teacher it's basically just hitting home that some things just never change.

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God the mask mandates were always important because it gave individuals confidence to say gently caress off to non-maskers.

Argas
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Winning would be too extreme.

Argas
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Conservatives are babies and everyone is allergic to treating them differently.

Argas
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I mean I guess I might vote voter apathy but I don't really feel like voting

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Entropic posted:

It’s actually worse than this because at least car crashes aren’t contagious.

What do you think a pileup is

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HackensackBackpack posted:

Also of note: the election means the conversion therapy ban has died on the order paper.

god gently caress

Argas
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Unfortunately we as a society and civilization have decided that these peoples' rights to be idiots is more important than an ounce kilogram of public safety and have encouraged our law enforcement (since inception in many cases, by design in most) to be part of the problem.

Argas
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I can't believe the media would play a part in demonizing the party that is a a few millimetres to the left.

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Sister came home with hilarious news.

BC Teachers(/schools?) finally said gently caress it and are disregarding orders by demanding 100% masking... starting next week.

Just start tomorrow or something.

Argas
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It did take them a while to go from "kids don't get covid" to "when we said kids we didn't mean teens"

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There was once a time I would've cared more about sussing out why the BC NDP is acting like this but they're just fuckers no matter how you slice it.

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skewetoo posted:

Laughs in neoliberalism

You're coughing up blood

is it victory wine?

Argas
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Anglophobia

Argas
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Time is space and how many of you have gone up to space before hmmm

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Less Fat Luke posted:

Hopefully more and more start using it, seems like a gigantic loving waste of time and money to require us to show the QR code but not require the restaurant to verify it.

e;f,b

I mean it basically sums up most of the world's response to covid.

Argas
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If the queen dies and I don't re-swear to the new sovereign, am i free

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Fortunately/unfortunately climate change doesn't obey provincial borders.

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PT6A posted:

The reason we can't have nice things is because we're too stupid to admit that the virus is airborne and could, in fact, be quite easily mitigated with ventilation, filtering, and regular testing in addition to high-quality masks used properly and consistently.

It's not magic, and we don't need to hole up like hermits for six months. But god forbid we do anything beyond emphasizing personal responsibility at each individual's personal cost.

Basically this.

Argas
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tl;dr gun culture

Argas
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Cops have to reckon with the worst of humanity day in day out, other cops.

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something something christianity is the most oppressed religion

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PittTheElder posted:

With those kinda numbers the potential payday for participating in this is actually pretty big, assuming that GoFundMe money gets disbursed equally (which is one hell of an assumption of course lol)

i cant believe trudeau would personally steal their gofundme money like that and fly away in a helicopter while cackling

Argas
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party leader more like chief of trend chasing

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These jackasses are completely delusional and will make themselves into martyrs whether or not the police do anything to them.

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Also decades of copaganda directed at cops just turning them into people only good at inflicting cruelty and little else

Argas
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The mandates didn't work because the unvaccinated got sick? Ow that hurt my brain.

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infernal machines posted:

Do they have any power to suspend and replace the chief unilaterally?

I mean, what would that accomplish? Isn't he hated by his own men for trying to reform the police? The same police who just refuse to stop being absolute poo poo?

This poo poo's been boiling under the surface for decades and the warnings were there the entire time.

Edit: This poo poo referring to the cops being poo poo in general and much more likely to hurt people who aren't white.

Argas fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Feb 13, 2022

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KingKalamari posted:

So, just speaking hypothetically, what countries would one want to escape to if they wanted to flee a far-right uprising? I've heard decent things about Norway and New Zealand...

No country is safe from this sort of thing as long as the government remains a slave to capital and wants their population compliant and consuming. And as long as the various police forces around the world don't change, they won't be any real help against the chuds. Counter-protestors are nice and all, especially if they vastly outnumber the chuds but it still comes down to the people in authority taking the side of non-chuds, which is at best a gamble. Money has almost no interest in the common and public good, and as such governments at all levels are usually working against your interests, albeit at varying speeds.

TulliusCicero posted:

Serious note: I remember visiting relatives in Ontario around London and Sarnia, and seeing loving Confederate flags on some houses

Like, what the actual gently caress is that. It's not even your dumbass country, it's sadly ours.

This may surprise you but Canadians flirted with the Confederacy quite a lot, and more than a few were welcomed with open arms post-war.

Argas
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The protesters aren't going to learn a single lesson from this. They'll go back to loving the cops some time later.

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Crow Buddy posted:

I suspect most of them believe that every climate, blm and native protest has achieved all their goals and received high fives from the government of the day. (And some violent element get a smack, but they deserved it.)

If it adds to their sense of being unfairly persecuted, they'll believe it.

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It'll basically take a coordinated counter-movement to unfuck the saturation of complete bullshit that floods all mediums telling people untruths, outright lies, etc.

So no, nothing is going to happen, because it turns out there is money to be made in the total saturation of our smooth brains.

Argas
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Libs gonna Lib. Get excited about this but just a reminder that the Libs gonna Lib.

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McGavin posted:

Also, you need to have a special kind of brain worms to run as a member of the BC Conservative party. There is zero chance of getting elected, so it's just you shouting from the rooftops that you're a horrible trashfire of a person.

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