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  jsg boggs owned [url posted:https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2017/02/01/j-s-g-boggs-1955-2017/[/url]] and ofc the collector's market value of a boggs bill was several times its denomination even then HookedOnChthonics has issued a correction as of 20:58 on May 30, 2021 |
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etalian posted:https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/jun/23/wine-tasting-junk-science-analysis I guess this doesn't say that being a sommelier is impossible, just that a lot of people like to fake it (and who wouldn't) but also that maybe it's impossible
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I think a wine tasting expert should be able to identify that a red is actually a white dyed red but I'm no wine snob so 
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May 30, 2021 21:05
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they'd have to focus on the taste instead of all the affected mannerisms of wine tasting. pretentious fart huffing is the whole point! no one actually cares about detailed verbal descriptions of flavor.
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May 30, 2021 21:10
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Filthy Hans posted:ars gratia artis Getting pretty good
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May 30, 2021 21:13
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it's great that people who think they are smarter than everyone else regularly get destroyed by their own hubris eat the rich
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im the lawyer that decided to work at a company called the "dedalus foundation" im sure it's fine lol
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both of these are good imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLSHUyzOzWs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC4BXKsVEsw
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May 30, 2021 21:14
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I'm actually surprised the snoop dog wine isn't more expensive
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Art museums are leftist
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May 30, 2021 21:24
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Filthy Hans posted:ars gratia artis are these some of the people he sent to die?
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well that was funny and also awful. the rich lady vs non-rich lady outcomes were exactly as expected in this hellworld
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 the spanish master is an unidentified person, or group of people, who forged an unknown number of 'ancient' bronzes mid-late last century. they melt down period coins (~100 ad), so that a chemical analysis makes the sculptures appear legit. all their works are damaged busts that miraculously have intact facial features:    as with the knoedler fakes (and many others), the greedy little pigs at auction houses and dealerships decide to overlook stuff like 'provenance', and 'why was this sculpture decapitated so perfectly?'. fortunately, there's a husky german archaeologist who has made it his life's work to embarrass the various institutions that bought them (and continue to deny that the spanish master exists). dw has made a 40 minute documentary about him  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lNSXB4i4fE 
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May 31, 2021 11:08
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imagine drinking wine for any other reason than to kill braincells and black out
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May 31, 2021 11:16
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exmarx posted:the hero of the piece is pei-shen quian, a maths teacher in his 70s. he painted the abstract impressionist fakes in his garage over 20+ years: king poo poo Mr. Sharps posted:art in private hands generally just sits in untaxed storage units in ports waiting to be sold again. its pokemon cards for millionaires this is a funny way to put it
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May 31, 2021 11:45
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The $12 Million Stuffed Shark is a good book that goes over the whole blue chip market and how depressing the art scene is, being entirely a laundering and investment scheme where the wealthy boost already wealthy artists to become more wealthy.
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May 31, 2021 12:17
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crepeface posted:king poo poo Theyre building exclusive for art storage units now for these investment types. A museum nobody is allowed to enter with thousands of pieces of private art.
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May 31, 2021 12:19
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Sharkopath posted:Theyre building exclusive for art storage units now for these investment types. A museum nobody is allowed to enter with thousands of pieces of private art. sounds like a perfect heist for a payday game
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May 31, 2021 13:38
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Sharkopath posted:Theyre building exclusive for art storage units now for these investment types. A museum nobody is allowed to enter with thousands of pieces of private art. so basically giant blinders full of plastic sleeves
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May 31, 2021 13:39
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Sharkopath posted:Theyre building exclusive for art storage units now for these investment types. A museum nobody is allowed to enter with thousands of pieces of private art. It's cool as a kind of natural extension of the personal collection. Like, having to choose between 'appreciating these presumably aesthetically-cool things I have' and maximizing exchange value they chose to literally deny themselves the ability to pleasurably experience art. And they say the rich are hedonistic.
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I enjoyed this
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May 31, 2021 14:22
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art forgery is great because a lot of these big artists just ran painting sweatshops anyway
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:they'd have to focus on the taste instead of all the affected mannerisms of wine tasting. pretentious fart huffing is the whole point! no one actually cares about detailed verbal descriptions of flavor. I do because I like to tell people how things taste
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exmarx posted:
In the same vein, you had this legend: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Forger who created a bunch of fake medieval miniature paintings using vellum/parchment from genuine texts - stuff like the margins et cetera.  His (hers?) get identified by how the people have happy expressions on them, among other things. The forger was never caught. Goals.
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Bip Roberts posted:I guess this doesn't say that being a sommelier is impossible, just that a lot of people like to fake it (and who wouldn't) but also that maybe it's impossible tasting wines and describing the flavors and aromas is fairly straightforward in terms of how legit it is (sometimes one persons raspberry is another persons pomegranate but its not like one person says orange and another says blueberry) its when it comes to objectively rating wines on a points scale that everything becomes completely subjective nonsense
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May 31, 2021 15:21
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number... bad?!?
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whos art fogerty
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May 31, 2021 15:38
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In Norway we had an interesting case where the art was legit but the painter was forged. Some guy made some paintings, made up a guy and claimed that the made up guy had sold his paintings at high price.
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May 31, 2021 18:55
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Alhazred posted:In Norway we had an interesting case where the art was legit but the painter was forged. Some guy made some paintings, made up a guy and claimed that the made up guy had sold his paintings at high price. Long live Hans van Meegeren
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May 31, 2021 20:30
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Based forgery scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj7B9YAfl2Q
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May 31, 2021 20:44
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Drunkboxer posted:whos art fogerty the long lost 5th Creedence guy
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May 31, 2021 22:37
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Rich people getting scammed is one of my favorite genres of documentary and both the movies mentioned are good. Also a fan of art heist movies because it's cool to see planning and execution to steal from the rich.
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net work error posted:Rich people getting scammed is one of my favorite genres of documentary and both the movies mentioned are good. Same token I don't like thefts from cultural institutions. By which I mean the Met and British Museum and pretty much every museum in the West should be emptied.
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LegoMan posted:imagine drinking wine for any other reason than to kill braincells and black out Sacramental wine is a thing
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net work error posted:Rich people getting scammed is one of my favorite genres of documentary and both the movies mentioned are good.
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theres also who the gently caress is Jackson pollock? which isnt a great doc but centers on rich ppl trying to scam poor ppl but also trying to not get scammed themselves. good footage of how stupid the authentication process for auctions is
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Hand Knit posted:Long live Hans van Meegeren I'd rather not praise a racist and antisemitt.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p67d9F9nW2Y
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Sharkopath posted:Theyre building exclusive for art storage units now for these investment types. A museum nobody is allowed to enter with thousands of pieces of private art. the geneva freeport already exists and it holds around $100 billion in art 
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a cool place https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dafen_Village there's some documentary on it with a painter/forger crying while watching a Van Gogh movie
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