UKMT Summer 2021: I didn't paddleboard while Kabul fell, the sea was closed

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Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Borrovan posted:

Trying to appeal to both left and right has literally never won an election - mostly, because it's an obviously stupid thing to do so nobody has even bothered before.

I still think the problem with Starmer is that he got bumped to leader with very little actual political experience, and what little experience he does have is from that brief period of insanity around the brexit votes when tactics like 'abstain & amend' and talking about cross-party voting alliances actually worked.

The way things worked under a minority coalition that couldn't control it's MPs is completely different to how it works under a majority government that will happily beat MPs to death if they stray an inch from policy.

# ¿ Jun 14, 2021 14:47

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# ¿ May 20, 2024 20:23

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

I am fully expecting everyone who had Astrazeneca to be told in 6 months time they have to get pfizer as well because it does nothing against the new iceland / omega variant.

# ¿ Jun 14, 2021 17:39

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

We probably need to just ready ourselves for the inevitable memory holing when everything appears mostly normal again, and the media starts putting out thunkpieces about how since it's all turned out ok,* was Boris' approach really so bad?

* _{For them, that is.}

# ¿ Jun 14, 2021 18:11

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1404483776881831938?s=19

Pfizer boys wooooo

I mean yes, but 10% of the population getting infected when we reopen everything is not great.

I guess my doomposting comes not from the efficacy of the vaccines but in the competence of the Tories supporting it's rollout, which they absolutely will not.

# ¿ Jun 14, 2021 18:44

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Jakabite posted:

Not you specifically you btw Bobby and I don’t think you’re even bad for it really. It’s not even specifically this thread but also so many people I know irl. I just had to ask my partner to not sound so happily confident that we’ll have to extend past 19th July.

I think I am biased toward it for autism reasons.* But I fully accept that other people are being driven mad with loneliness and anxiety, and that lockdown has to end.

There's also a part of me that does sort of want it to go wrong enough that Johnson doesn't end up getting away with this. Also I don't think I'm wrong to be concerned that Johnson's current schedule is too fast, and sacrificing caution in terms of variants building up immunity.

* _{This is probably the first time in my life where I've been able to just chill out without having pressure from in-laws multiple times a week to go out expensive places, or stand around at a party that makes me anxious and exhausted for days. And as soon as lockdown is over those demands will have been stacking up and are going to come back with a vengeance.

It's not that I want everyone else to stay locked down, it's that I'm going to miss being able to get away with living like this.}

# ¿ Jun 14, 2021 20:10

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

The problem is that with post viral fatigue, it is mostly just fatigue. There are people with long covid who've had a significant exacerbation of athma symptoms, or breathing trouble where none was previously present.

E: Also cardiac and nerve damage symptoms, as well as other nastiness, but breathing problems and lung damage seem to be the most common.

One thing I was thinking now is it'd be nice if the relaxation of restrictions came with a note about how some people are still vulnerable and will want to stay isolated or wear masks. But I know absolutely it's going to be framed with typical bluster about 'doing your bit for the economy' and 'get back out there' in a way that means anyone who has a cold and weats a mask, or declines to go to licky face night at weatherspoons is not going to have a great time.

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Jun 14, 2021

# ¿ Jun 14, 2021 21:04

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

ThomasPaine posted:

remember when we were all just going to have to stay at home for three weeks and this would all blow over, lol

I remember Kieth saying we had to 'break the cycle' and then a week later it came out that he'd run over a cyclist in his SUV.

# ¿ Jun 14, 2021 22:53

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Spangly A posted:

The only point I'm making is that the "unprecedented" line is an excuse for a global fuckup of lazy liberal governance that's killed nearly 4m people.

The unprecedented thing is bullshit specifically given that there was that vaccine preparedness exercise that the UK specifically was told it's pandemic response was woefully inadequate.

And the only person bringing it up was jam grandad.

# ¿ Jun 15, 2021 11:38

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Marmaduke! posted:

Actually I'm reliably informed that the reason people won't vote Labour is precisely because of lefties not supporting Starmer supporting the government. Support Labour: vote Tory.

I had a very confusing conversation with my older brother, who I've always thought of as being better than me at politics and further left as well.

He was trying to argue that Starmer was clever and playing the long game, appealing to people like our great aunt and uncle who are afraid of losing their house if interest rates go up.

And that was his entire argument. Nothing about how absolutely bezerk it is that he has no policies and abstains on everything. He was saying he'd been asking people why they hate Starmer and 'nobody could tell him why'l,' so I ran him through the 10 pledges, the RLB sacking, the spy cops bill, the schools reopening but he just kept circling back to interest rates and houses, and how the public don't like the word socialism so Corbyn was wrong to associate himself with it.

It definitely ended up in agree to disagree territory but it was weird hearing melt poo poo coming out of his mouth.

# ¿ Jun 15, 2021 12:58

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Starmer could promise fully automated luxury communism, and by the end of the week the Guardian would have talked him down to means tested budget utilitarianism.

# ¿ Jun 15, 2021 14:33

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

If he's talking about WhatsApp messages, doesn't that make them a matter of public interest, same as the labour leaks?

I want Bojos loving WhatsApp archive.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2021 12:14

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

My medical latin is rusty as a canal bike, but doesn't pancytopenia mean something like 'all of the blood in your cat is severely hosed?' That sounds bad. Stay safe catgirls.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2021 18:06

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

stong and sable

# ¿ Jun 16, 2021 23:42

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

NotJustANumber99 posted:

why dont they just take the half a million dollars and spend it all on tomatoes?

i mean its a tomato michael, what could it cost half a million dollars?

# ¿ Jun 17, 2021 10:56

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Passive income hustlers are hilarious, like that landlord who made the video of her two cars parked outside her rental property. They go on to proselytise about it as if the scam is possible for everyone to be doing. It's not, especially when most people are too busy getting hosed by rent rates higher than a mortgage, utilities and employers cutting their wages. Landlording always requires an exploited underclass, and those motherfuckers love glossing over that fact.

I dunno. There's something especially enraging about the look on their faces thinking they've discovered something clever and telling everyone else they can do it to make themselves feel better about their role in exploitation culture.

E: I think it's the framing of the money as 'passive' income that magically appears rather than being ripped from the hands of the people doing the actual work.

# ¿ Jun 17, 2021 12:11

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Saw this in the wild just now. And by wild i mean the first loving line hits dead centre on the centrist bingo card:

# ¿ Jun 17, 2021 14:30

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

crispix posted:

a huge one kept pinging off my window one day recently, like it kept going away for a while then coming back and trying again

Because of the preceeding post it sounded like you were talking about a Fox News viewer.

I have fed a bee a drop of honey / sugar water though, why is this bad.

# ¿ Jun 17, 2021 17:37

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Edwin Poots is a character from a Terry Gilliam animation and my mind will not be changed on this.

# ¿ Jun 17, 2021 22:18

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

therattle posted:

I’m not sure that’s how it works.

People who have $36b generally don't have it sitting around in a bank, they have it sitting in rental property, investments for which they recieve dividends and index funds like Vanguard.

If you imagine how much the average landlord makes out of one house, and then imagine that scaled up to $36b with a team of dedicated cokeheads running every scam they can to increase the pool they take a cut of,, it's easy to see how it could inflate itself to $57b even after giving $8b away to good causes.

# ¿ Jun 18, 2021 13:47

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

It'd be a good point if any of those three had been talking about tactical alliances, and one of those parties (the lib dems) didn't still have a Swinson rule in place banning MPs from making support arrangements.

# ¿ Jun 18, 2021 13:52

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Also, if the property she wanted to buy falls through, yet her home does sell, where will she live while looking for another place - rentals aren't in big supply round here especially for women in their mid80s! - as none of us have spare rooms. Everyone is screaming at me.

I hate to put it so bluntly, but it looks like you are probably their contingency plan. If the whole family is screaming and shouting at you now, they'll be ten times worse when she's got nowhere to go and of course none of them could possibly make room and how could you do that to your poor old mother etc.

A caring nature will always be exploited. That doesn't mean you shouldn't have one, you just meed to be aware of your boundaries around people who will try and take the piss.

# ¿ Jun 18, 2021 14:33

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

OwlFancier posted:

That makes me think a lot of him, honestly. I was expecting them to split it. Good on Beckett.

The way Beckett has been posting the last few weeks I really was not expecting him to stand aside. Just a few days ago this came up:

https://twitter.com/MettlesomeTeri/status/1405649057041768449?s=19

I just hope the damage hasn't already been done, I see a lot of people in the racheal_swindon likes and retweets that were getting really angry and conspiratorial about Turner.

Owen Jones has also been spending a lot of time on facebook replying to people blaming him for splitting the vote, although to be fair Jones' messaging has been less "the left needs to unite behind a candidate" and more "the left needs to get behind my friend Steve Turner and I am going to ignore any of Beckett's positives."

# ¿ Jun 18, 2021 15:41

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

The thing about Galloway on CBB is that everyone focuses on the cat thing, and not how he instantly formed a clique with the nastiest piece of poo poo in the house and spent the whole time turning everyone against each other. The argument with Barrymore is one of the most horrific examples I can remember ever seeing of someone spitefully laying into someone who is clearly an emotional wreck.

Also how pleased he seemed to be to see Saville when he turned up as part of a task.

# ¿ Jun 19, 2021 12:40

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/1406199763784159236?s=19

Labour testing the waters with Rayner quoted on a left leaning pol WAIT A loving SECOND IS THIS A POLICY FROM LABOUR

# ¿ Jun 19, 2021 13:32

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

https://twitter.com/Survation/status/1406012979305398275?s=19

Survation polling that absolutely guts Starmer. Labour lost this election specifically because of his leadership. The whole thread is absolutely damning.

# ¿ Jun 19, 2021 13:43

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Comrade Fakename posted:

It is kind of incredible that a Labour leader is trusted less than the Tory PM on the NHS in those polls.

That he is less trustworthy overall than Boris is incredible.

# ¿ Jun 19, 2021 14:03

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

bump_fn posted:

even if the pixel density on a phone is comparable to a dslr the physical size of the sensor is smaller and the lenses aren’t as good

The first digital camera I ever had was a Konica Minolta Dynax 5D, and I am still mad that Sony theoretically posess the natural+ colour postprocessing code and are doing nothing with it.

# ¿ Jun 19, 2021 22:27

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

goddamnedtwisto posted:

e: Also get_iplayer downloads it to an m4a instead of mp3, presumably for weirdo linux reasons, and while most mp3 players will play those files it's not *guaranteed*.

This was the most fun part about when torrenting was easier, having to track down the codec pack that 'everybody has anyway' after some spod discovers you can save 10mb by using hc.80124 instead of hc.80123a (the naming conventions of which are meaningless to most users because all they know is that this .mkv file works but this .mkv doesn't)

And then having to explain this to my dad so he can watch Lost.

More fun was trying to do it on Ubuntu, where you go from an environment designed to give off a 'see linux isn't so scary' vibe, to people on Quora telling you it's simple - you just need to forcibly disable this safety feature, then add this line of code to this system protected file, then manually force these files into these folders via command line code, and also if you get any of this wrong your system might not boot.

# ¿ Jun 20, 2021 14:07

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Ages ago I asked for an android app that would play mp3 albums with no gaps between songs and I forgot to say that foobar2000 seems to be doing the job admirably, so if it was one of you that recommended it, I am extremely grateful.

# ¿ Jun 20, 2021 14:36

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Barry Foster posted:

yes it does. Although I confess I've moved to musicbee recently. Still feels a bit weird and wrong.

At the start of lockdown I replaced my entire mp3 collection, which stretched back to the early 00s and were often, like, 96 or 128kbps and sounded awful. I dunno how I put up with it. Then when I had new 320 or FLAC replacements I lovingly attached high quality artwork to them and perfectly standardised all the band names and album names and dates and genres and song titles.

It was very satisfying and relaxing. I recommend tagscanner if you've got a lot of audio files to meticulously organise. Automates a lot of the process

I ripped my entire collection using Media Player only to find that it's left a bunch of errors, so occasionally parts of the song will be replaced by digital noise for a ¼ of a second. Very annoying.

Is there a ripper that uses parity checking? iTunes has an error correction feature but I don't know if it's 100%

# ¿ Jun 20, 2021 14:55

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Skarsnik posted:

This is what I use

https://www.exactaudiocopy.de/

Ooh, this looks very good, thankyou!

# ¿ Jun 20, 2021 15:08

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

bump_fn posted:

when people here say “bullying allegations” do they mean like hard verbal abuse because to an american ear bullying is like what you do in school.

Yeah, hard verbal abuse, intimidation, coercion & physical abuse (mostly non sexual) allegedly.

I find it weird hearing adults use the word 'bullying' though, people just don't seem to give it the same weight when it's referring to adults.

It just doesn't work as a gotcha descriptor because the kind of people who are abusive like that as an adult aren't bothered by it. They seem to see it as a positive. Like when Guardian columnists call Bercow a bully he's probably mildly irritated, BoJo seems to take it as a badge of honor that he's tough, uncompromising, driven etc.

Also I think most people would have sympathy for a kid who's being bullied, less so for an adult.

I say this as someone who has been bullied at knofepoint, and my Dad had to take anti anxiety meds for a while because of an abusive manager who was targetting him (thank God he still knew a bunch of old school union guys who hadn't retired yet and were able to sort it out).

Just the word 'bullying' feels like it minimises the seriousness of it, almost infantilises both parties in the situation instead of framing it as exploiter and exploited.

I don't know if I'm making sense or not, but it's not that I don't think bullying is serious - I very much do. I just don't think the word 'bully' carries the same weight as an adult and in most people's minds minimises the serious of what's happening.

# ¿ Jun 21, 2021 11:11

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

But number has to go up.

# ¿ Jun 21, 2021 12:53

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Sanford posted:

Is jab not a standard term for a vaccination? Flu jab, tetanus jab, TB jab? I've had lots of jabs in my time. It's what they're called.

Maybe an age thing. I was still at school when the MMR vaccine was being done, so maybe I just have the word naturalised in my head.

But that doesn't explain gransnet getting mad upthread, or that the majority of times I've heard it was coming from people now in their mid 60s talking about innoculations going on holiday. I've also worked in a pathology reception and the phlebotomists used it all the time.

Or maybe a regional thing, who knows. I'm 40 and grew up in the North East. I mean it's not like people are saying 'uWu, injectywecty' or whatever.

# ¿ Jun 22, 2021 14:16

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

keep punching joe posted:

For the consideration of UKMT

https://twitter.com/leomiklasz/status/1407322921299853317

replacing 'amen' in all school hyms with 'simple as'

# ¿ Jun 22, 2021 14:18

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

It's almost as bad as those weirdos who call a bread roll a cob!!!

# ¿ Jun 22, 2021 14:36

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Jedit posted:

North Manchester a bread roll is a muffin, yes.

I find that incredibly patronising when people go somewhere and instead of going 'oh ha ha, you do things differently here,' they get agressively defensive over the way they do things.

Which is the entirety of British foreign policy.

# ¿ Jun 22, 2021 16:52

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

OwlFancier posted:

https://twitter.com/MoneyTelegraph/status/1406918607276285953

ONLY EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND POUNDS TAX FREE

HAVE YOU NO HEART MR SUNAK?? WHAT OF MY POOR IMPOVERISHED CHILDREN?

I have long had a theory that the tories have spent the last few elections actively trying to lose elections so that they don't actually have to deal with all of the brexit poo poo they set off, and then when everything is back to normal they can set it off.

Keith's Labour has gotten so bad that literally the only way they can tank their chances is to attack pensioners.

# ¿ Jun 22, 2021 18:07

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Growing up in a seaside town, I can confirm that the best chippies are inland. Look for a chippy that's near a row of shops that normal people from the nearby estate are queueing up for.

Yes I mean Seashells in Monkseaton.

# ¿ Jun 22, 2021 19:41

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# ¿ May 20, 2024 20:23

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Failed Imagineer posted:

By this logic the best chipper should be found somewhere in the deserts of northern Xinjiang

Ah - to clarify, the best fish and chip shops in a seaside town will be found in more inland locations within that town.

# ¿ Jun 22, 2021 20:17

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