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CoolCab posted:i would also give a slightly dissenting opinion on HDDs? people get this really, really twisted because they remember the dark ages of loading a game off the same drive your OS is running from. this is a bad idea - any drive your OS is running from is constantly reading/writing system files, and since that takes up an adequate-to-significant amount of your bandwidth of course it means games take for loving ever to load. don't configure your poo poo like this, OS on the fastest drive and games somewhere else. I went this route, because I have a lot of media that I want to store on my computer. But, in general, anything you want backed up should be in multiple locations (which means cloud storage) and games aren't so big that you can't install more than you can play on a 1TB drive for another few years... So, most people will have their needs more than met by a 1TB NVME drive, or at worst a 2TB or dual drives. If you need more than 2TB of storage, platters are the only cost-effective solution, but I wouldn't recommend it for gaming. They are also very loud...my 4TB platter drive is the loudest single component in my rig... 
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Yeah, if you ever played with legos or tinker toys (or think you could) you can build a pc, just watch a youtube video. Even Henry Cavil can do it!
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CoolCab posted:hrm, here's a question for y'all Upgrading to a 5600X will give you a noticeable increase in gaming performance, if you can upgrade (a 3600 would be more of a side-grade). Going to 3600 CL 16 RAM might get you single-digit fps increases. Honestly though, with that 3070 your system is already blessed. 
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A 2080 is one of the best cards on the market, given that any RTX GPU is basically a Dragon Ball at this point... If it were my 2080, I'd just build a $1000 rig around it, something like this: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($299.00 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.94 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($171.48 @ Amazon) Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($91.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Lenovo) Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.99 @ Amazon) Total: $987.38 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-06-19 02:30 EDT-0400
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Lareine posted:I'm looking for a new computer case. My current case is a cheap Corsair that I got around 7 years ago and the fans are beginning to fail on it. I could, of course, replace the fans but I am not happy with how hard it is to put the side panel back on while the case remains upright and in general, I think it's time for a change. Lareine posted:Under $100. At the price limit, and full tower, but I really like this case. Having not upgraded in about a decade, it was nice to see what had been premium-tier features now bog-standard. Easy to work inside. All of the panels come off easily, with big, finger-turn screws, lots of expansion slots (which can be removed for more airflow), and removable dust panels! Has a "best of both worlds" cable management system with lots of big, rubber holes so you can stuff all those cords haphazardly where no one will see, making the viewable area neat and tidy. Plenty of room for big tower coolers or AIOs. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mn3RsY/phanteks-case-phes614pbk
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tehinternet posted:Any recommendation on a PCI-E bluetooth receiver? I'd like to pair some headphones to my computer and don't have a need for wifi as I'm wired in, wifi isn't a dealbreaker if it's the same cost as without. I've been using this: https://www.newegg.com/asus-pce-ac58bt-pci-express/p/N82E16833320386?Item=N82E16833320386 Works great for Wifi and Bluetooth! edit: you do need a free USB connector on your motherboard to use the BT!  Target Practice posted:How concerned do I have to be about the warnings that this is throwing up? I don't understand the bios flashing and how to avoid needing to do that. As said before, most boards will already be upgraded to the new BIOS. You probably won't have to do anything. Worst-case, check the motherboard's manual for the specific instructions, but the general procedure is to load the new BIOS on a USB, stick that USB into a specific USB slot on the back of the mobo, then start the system (sometimes without any CPU installed) and load the new BIOS in. Takes 5-10 minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkXunUAriE
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LifeSunDeath posted:I just checked for first time in a while and newegg has cards listed in stock, like 2060's...but obviously overpriced. Still interesting that there's some options that aren't ebay. I would be really careful about this. You will note, in the price box, that the seller is not Newegg, but a third party. These products tend to be massively inflated in cost. The very bottom of the page will have other sellers listed. If Newegg isn't an option, personally, I would pass... These will often pop up on PCPartsPicker, as well, massively inflating prices if a third-party seller is the only option while pretending to be "from Newegg." At the end of the day, only you can decide if the markup is worthwhile, but do understand that anything not-from-Newegg is probably priced 20%-100% over MSRP. As for this, specific, $600 2060: it's hard to say yes when a $500 3060Ti will outperform it and and a 3070 at the same price point will net you double-digit performance increases. But it's also hard to say no when that 3060Ti and 3070 are basically the Dragon Balls and you have no hope of getting either... 
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SnatchRabbit posted:My current Gaming PC has a EVGA G3 650 power supply running a GTX 2080 FE, 3700X, ASus Tuf Gaming Mobo, NVME and a platter drive, 16gb RAM @ 3GHz. PSU is probably 2-3 years old I'd say. If I were to upgrade to a EVGA 3070 Ti FTW3 would I need to upgrade the PSU? no custom cooling or anything that really pulls from the PSU as far as I can remember. That will  probably be fine, but EVGA do recommend a 750W PSU for that 3070Ti while only 650W for the 2080 you have...I would upgrade, if it were me, because I like to have enough overhead that the PSU will actually stay in the gold-rated zone, so ymmv. DarkHorse posted:Old PC on the fritz. Repair or build new? It's a great time to upgrade, but you are still looking at ~$600 USD to replace everything but the GPU in a bargain-basement gaming setup. No diagnostic readouts on the mobo? If not, you are down to swapping parts and hoping you pick the right one, which could cost you as much as a new upgrade if you guess incorrectly and can't return.
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lately and my old Radeon hunkajunk was perfectly adequate for my needs.
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DarkHorse posted:That's basically what I was thinking. Yeah, mobo doesn't say/do anything unless the CPU is in, and when it's in it just flicks on/off. Money isn't a huge issue thankfully, just as long as they're good value If your PSU has a 10-year warranty and is only 5 years old, it's probably good... ...but I always recommend just getting a new PSU when upgrading: it adds ~10% to the cost of the system and its the one component that can destroy all of the others.
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ben shapino posted:So I bought a Cooler Master 750W SFX power supply. You should be able to get some kind of extension for the side that connects to the motherboard, but I'd like to know what case you are using? It seems really strange that it doesn't reach, there should be a direct path from the PSU housing to various places where the 24-pin might be...
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Spacedad posted:I have a challenge for you folks. I know a lot of newbie artists who are on tight budgets and need to get their first 'real' art PCs. (Many of them are using old trashy laptops.) Here's my stab: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($207.98 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($98.90 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($58.99 @ Amazon) Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Super Flower Golden Green HX 550 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.00 @ Newegg Sellers) Total: $564.85 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-07-11 11:07 EDT-0400 Integrated graphics, but can upgrade to a low-end GPU in the future (3060, I'm thinking).
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lordofthefishes posted:This plus a couple other devices. I can get away with 2 bays but more would be better. I really love this case and it has three 5" bays! https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BfPKHx/phanteks-enthoo-pro-tg-rgb-atx-full-tower-case-ph-es614ptg_bk I use my PC as our gaming/media center, so I have a BD drive in one of the 5.25" bays. I also have a fair bit of older (and some current, POE2 is the most recent) games on DVDs, so it's nice to be able to install them if I want. I have some older optical drives I could transfer from another PC to fill the other slots, but I don't need them since the BD writes/rewrites all optical media. May get one of those fancy, front-panel displays one day. 
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Serious Hardware / Software Crap > PC Building Megathread: Full Tower Appreciation Station Cyberdud posted:After posting in the old thread in August 2020 and thinking it over, i decided to keep my current PC for a bit longer. I bought and built this PC in 2015. I feel I'll eventually run out of luck and my 970 is going to die so i'm trying to edge my bets and see what the current options are since i recently got a bonus at work. Unless the inflation rate has gone bananas, that is basically an unlimited budget, if you can get all parts at MSRP. Something like this would be my starting point (add $600 for the GPU with no price): PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($99.95 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($164.99 @ Amazon) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($199.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($108.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($108.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case ($118.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GA 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($115.95 @ Amazon) Total: $1207.84 (~$1400 CAD, ~$2200CAD w/ GPU) Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-07-14 11:52 EDT-0400 Case is a filler, no idea if it works for you or fits, so get whatever suits your needs and you don't mind looking at for the next decade. Motherboards should be updated by now, but you may need to check for BIOS flashback, just in case. I'd just go with 2 NVME drives, rather than getting a second SATA: not much to be saved by getting an NVME and a 2.5". I prefer Seasonic PSUs, but was lazy, anything from the big brands with a gold rating and 10-year warranty should be fine. Toxic Fart Syndrome fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Jul 14, 2021 |
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VelociBacon posted:I still have a 5.25" floppy drive that I was putting into PCs for a long time and just connecting to molex power (it was IDE) so the green LED on the front would be on and it would look like it was set up. Good for a laugh I guess but now that I'm an old piece of poo poo and nobody sees my PC I haven't bothered. Also I think the little handle lock-in piece would prevent the front of my case from closing. They make IDE to SATA adapters for <$10USD if you really want to load up those 3.5" discs... 
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VelociBacon posted:This is a 5.25" drive though! And now that I think about it I believe I also stopped connecting it to power because it would make some kind of noise. stop it i need to call a doctor... Jokes aside, no idea if any media can survive ~40 years on an actually floppy, floppy disc, but you could find out... 
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RVT posted:What's a decent bracket I can buy to support a 3080? Ordered a computer from cyberpower in April and it finally arrived, right as supply started improving, but whatever I guess. They put an EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra in it, and it has the most massive cooler I've ever seen on a video card. When I took the foam out, it sagged a little, so I want to put some support under it. Isn’t that a double-slot card? Do the screws on the back panel not hold it in place?
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For gaming, there is no benefit to the 5800/5900 over the 5600. You will get significantly more performance by putting that extra $150+ towards a better GPU. The 5600 is faster, better, and cheaper than the 3700! The 5600 + 3080 is still the strongest price/performance combo.
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LorneReams posted:Don't be a dumb gently caress like me and struggle to get the Bluetooth working before realizing the Wi-Fi antenna also is the Bluetooth antenna. I've been up all night with this poo poo LOL. A lot of times the Bluetooth part of the adapter requires a cord into a free USB hub on the main board, too! https://twitter.com/lorriehancock18/status/1416587544892887042?s=21 Please consult a medical professional if your erection lasts longer than five hours...
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It's kind of hilarious to have a huge, plastic  airflow case and then just shove a bargin-bin Dell case from 1998 inside of it like a Russian Nesting Doll.Was Alienware ever reputable, before they were bought by Dell? My hazy, childhood nostalgia has them as the only ~gaming~ PC maker back in the 90s. Was it garbage back then too?
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I have a 1070 driving a 1080p TV and it can do Cyberpunk at Max/Ultra for reference.
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Yeah, chip manufacturing is crazy. Basically, Intel/AMD/et al are only trying to make their top-of-the-line chipsets. But the process is so complex and inexact, that they have to “bin” the finished products into different model lines. So the chips that work at >95% (not sure if this is the real figure) will be binned for the top tier (3090s), the next tier of bins becomes 3080s, and so on. Industry insiders, who watch the Fabs obsessively, will check the output numbers for a gauge of when the product line will be ready. Manufacturers won’t actually sell the products until they can reliably produce the top-end model.
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Serious Hardware / Software Crap > PC Building Megathread: Still No GPUs: Unironically Recommending Prebuilts
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You can buy physical copies of Windows that come on a USB, but I would recommend buying a key from someone like LN and then just getting a friend/family member to let you make a USB with their computer (you only need an internet connection). You can actually avoid getting the key altogether, if you don't care about customizing your desktop or a few other features...just need the (free) installer which you can put on any USB. You will have to format the USB, so be sure to pull any unique data off it, first!
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Unless MS Flight Simulator or Cyberpunk 2077 is your favorite game, 8+ cores is kind of a waste right now for gaming. That is unlikely to change for at least the current console generation, which gives 3-5 years. Almost always better to put that money towards a better GPU, instead!Takes No Damage posted:Aahhh, the heady days of the early 2000s, reading through 28 CPU benchmarks with each chart being on a separate page you had to select from a giant drop-down menu The Bench is still great for making comparisons, but it was sad to watch the decline. It's not that they're bad, or anything, just that I guess Anand himself was so good and had so many connections...maybe it wasn't a decline so much as time just marched on. For instance, this is a really good article with lots of information pertinent to this thread: https://www.anandtech.com/show/9793/best-cpus ...but GN gives the same info and I don't have to read. 
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v1ld posted:Not sure if this is the right thread to ask, but: I'd like to get better surge protection in front of my electronics. I've been on a bit of a voice controlled electronics kick so ideally the surge protector would be integrated into a smart strip or plug. I think what might work is a power-backup UPS. Most of them offer surge protection >1k joules and you can get batteries with enough power to give you 30 minutes to shut everything down. APC is the popular brand with commercial outfits and I've used CyberPower for almost 2 decades without any issues. Unless I am just misunderstanding...
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VelociBacon posted:Enough people have posted about fan stuff or general first-time building that I think it's worth mentioning when you finish your build just power it on and off with the side off and make sure your fans are a) not hitting any cables and b) spinning in the directions you wanted them to. Modern fans will all have airflow pointers somewhere on the chassis to help with mounting!
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PRADA SLUT posted:Does anyone know what an “equivalent” PC a PS5 would be? I’m just trying to get an idea of hardware capabilities. To  : somewhere around a Ryzen 3700 with 16GB of ram, an nvme SSD, and a 3060/2070.
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Cross-Section posted:
Have you tried setting a delay to your curve, maybe 15 or 20 seconds, so that it doesn't trigger for the spikes but you can actually set a curve besides flat 70%?
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Pvt. Parts posted:Glad someone is keeping track, I have resigned myself to remaining in the fetal position during waking hours. I got mine from Lodge North in SA Mart (linked above). Took less than 30 minutes to get my key. I will never give Gates another dollar.
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I mean, the 5600X performs as well/better in gaming and if you are doing any kind of video production you are going to want a 5900X or 5950X. The 5800X sits in a no man's land of performance. It's not bad, by any means, it's just not better in gaming to justify the price increase over the 5600X or powerful enough to say it's a value CPU for entry-level production.
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I mean, I've let plenty of SSDs dangle or just stacked them loose on top of platter drives, but I would be curious/possibly worried that something was shorting out when they were screwed in...
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Rinkles posted:Any ideas? I've been banging my head against this for hours now. I've uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers multiple times now, restarting after each one. Through Windows, Intel and Gigabyte. Is it showing up in Device Manager?
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At this point my pipe dream is that they will release a 4000-series GPU and I can finally get a 3070...
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Science_enthusiast posted:Howdy thread. I use this one: ASUS Dual Band 802.11AC Wireless-AC2100 PCI-E Bluetooth 5 Gigabit Wi-Fi Adapter, 160MHz Support It can max out my 100MB/s connection and the Bluetooth reaches at least 20’ on my headphones.
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Anyone have Newegg return advice? I ordered an item on 12-23, and a shipping label was created, but the tracking number still shows no information ("this tracking number not found"). I tried cancelling the order, but they said since the label was made they can't cancel. The refund policy says I have to return the item within a week, but it was never shipped to me in the first place. Seems like a pretty lovely loophole that they can just print a label and never ship the thing and then the end-user is just boned? 
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Is...is it over? Can I just buy a 3070 Ti for $729 from Newegg now?
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