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alexandriao posted:The hardware drivers for the Dualsense were contributed to the Linux Kernel by Sony themselves, and it works out of the box on any Linux kernel post-5.14, so do you mean on Windows, or ?? The touchpad doesn't work wirelessly on Linux nor Windows (and also not the adaptive triggers) without jank-rear end third party software.
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How comfortable would Fallout 1 and 2 be on one of these? The Fallout show kinda makes me want a Deck just to play them, if they’re comfortable, and New Vegas. Everything else would be a bonus.
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FO1 and 2 work, but whether or not you think they're good on the deck is going to depend on how you feel about tiny UI elements and using the trackpad as a mouse. I love the trackpads and itty bitty UI stuff doesn't bother me, so I enjoyed playing FO1 all the way through right after I got my OG deck. I believe Fallout Fixt works and you can use the x2 scaling on that to help deal with the UI issues.
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Apr 17, 2024 05:05
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Paradoxish posted:FO1 and 2 work, but whether or not you think they're good on the deck is going to depend on how you feel about tiny UI elements and using the trackpad as a mouse. I love the trackpads and itty bitty UI stuff doesn't bother me, so I enjoyed playing FO1 all the way through right after I got my OG deck. How’s it compare to using a trackpad on a laptop?
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Apr 17, 2024 05:33
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...different? They're hard to explain. They're one of the best features of the Deck but using a trackpad with your thumb is a lot different than on a laptop, and I think the trackball emulation is really the best way to use them. But the nice part is that they're pretty much entirely customizable, so you can set them up however you want.
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Paradoxish posted:...different? They're hard to explain. They're one of the best features of the Deck but using a trackpad with your thumb is a lot different than on a laptop, and I think the trackball emulation is really the best way to use them. But the nice part is that they're pretty much entirely customizable, so you can set them up however you want. Yeah, weirdly, you'd think that a thumb controlled track pad would be intuitive because it's a bit like how you'd use a phone. But it's not, and a dunno why. I think it might be the disconnect between the cursor not moving at the exact speed and location as your thumb directly on a screen or something.
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Apr 17, 2024 08:36
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By default the deck trackpad emulates a trackball, meaning there's momentum if you swipe the trackpad. It allows you to have nice low sensitivity trackpad when trying to hit tiny buttons and fly across the screen with a single swipe.
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Apr 17, 2024 08:43
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You can also set the trackpad to Mouse Region which by default will cover the entire screen area, so the position of your thumb on the trackpad corresponds to the same relative area on the screen. You may find that easier to swipe the cursor around than trackball mode.
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Apr 17, 2024 08:47
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SeANMcBAY posted:How comfortable would Fallout 1 and 2 be on one of these? Minuscule fonts
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Yeah FO1 has really tiny fonts. If you use "classic version for older PCs" when it asks you that is slightly better but it seriously strains my eyes. And I am not at a point where I need reading glasses normally.
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Apr 17, 2024 10:11
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jokes posted:The Xbox controller doesn't have a touchpad but the PS5 controller does so we have to use jank-rear end software to use the touchpad (among other features) on it. Not to mention it's bluetooth-only (or plugged in) on PC so it's not as reliable as a plugged-in 2.4 adapter. Important note on this is if you use a PS5 controller exclusively plugged into PC it will ruin the controller battery. If you use it as a wired controller on PC too much it becomes wireless-only until you replace the battery.
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Apr 17, 2024 11:39
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Based on what because I use my launch DualSense way more wired to my laptop than I do wireless with my ps5 and that thing is still chugging along happily on either. Battery life remains absolutely fine.
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Heran Bago posted:Important note on this is if you use a PS5 controller exclusively plugged into PC it will ruin the controller battery. If you use it as a wired controller on PC too much it becomes wireless-only until you replace the battery. Is that true for being plugged into a PS5 too? If not, what’s the difference?
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Apr 17, 2024 11:50
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I don’t think it’s true at all based on my own experience but if there’s an actual thing out there about it I’m open to being wrong. The only fucky thing my dualsenses do is sometimes if I leave them plugged in when I shut down my computer they’ll stay turned on and drain their battery until it’s dead or I notice they’re still switched on and unplug them. Doesn’t happen every time and most of the time I remember to unplug them when I finish using them so it’s whatever.
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Apr 17, 2024 11:54
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jokes posted:The touchpad doesn't work wirelessly on Linux nor Windows (and also not the adaptive triggers) without jank-rear end third party software. are you sure? i'm on plain ol' debian KDE and connecting my ds to bluetooth, touchpad starts working immediately e: oh never mind me dualsense isn't the same thing apparently lol
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I tried playing FO1 on my PC last weekend and on top of the tiny fonts, the mouse was really floaty and felt like poo poo to use. So I don't think the Steam Deck's track pad is gonna fare better.
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Detective No. 27 posted:I tried playing FO1 on my PC last weekend and on top of the tiny fonts, the mouse was really floaty and felt like poo poo to use. So I don't think the Steam Deck's track pad is gonna fare better. I played it on the deck, docked, last year and the mouse was fine.
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Yeah, I didn't notice any floatiness with the trackpads when I played FO1 handheld.
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Sounds like the usual mouse acceleration/enhanced pointer precision or whatever the gently caress it’s called now thing in windows to me
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Commander Keene posted:When I was modding Skyrim, I just installed MO2 on my Deck, then transferred all of my mods from PC to Deck using SyncThing. Holy poo poo thanks for this, I've been on again off again dicking around trying to find a good way to do this ever since I got a deck. This was finally the software that made it simple enough for a moron like me to do it. Oh god now I need so much more storage.
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Pretty interesting and detailed slides from a presentation work being done on a gaming-optimized scheduler for Linux https://static.sched.com/hosted_files/ossna2024/9b/scx-lavd-oss-na24.pdf quite technical in places
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Anyone try underrail on deck? Can’t get protondb to load atm.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Holy poo poo thanks for this, I've been on again off again dicking around trying to find a good way to do this ever since I got a deck. This was finally the software that made it simple enough for a moron like me to do it. You can also just use a flash drive, which is what I do. New mods I just download directly on the Deck.
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Should I get my hopes up for running “No Rest for the Wicked” on the deck?
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everything seems broken regarding mod so maybe i’ll just play vanilla New Vegas on my steam deck surely it’s more stable than release
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Miguel Prado posted:Should I get my hopes up for running “No Rest for the Wicked” on the deck? I saw this posted on r/SteamDeck the other day. Game looks neat and this was the first time I have heard of it. https://twitter.com/TheGennadiy/status/1780686063142420878
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hadji murad posted:everything seems broken regarding mod so maybe i’ll just play vanilla New Vegas on my steam deck I recall there being some talk that the Deck is actually the best, most stable place to play New Vegas? I can't make any grand proclamations on how accurate that is, but I will say I am part way through a second play through of NV on a Steam Deck and my experience has been completely solid. Totally vanilla, both times. Can't recall a single crash or even any particularly dramatic bugs beyond the standard Bethesda open world experience.
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30fps on the Deck for a top down game. The power of Unity3d. /s
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Beastie posted:I saw this posted on r/SteamDeck the other day. Game looks neat and this was the first time I have heard of it. Very cool! I’ll still probably stream it but I’m glad they’re open about it and putting in the effort. Moon is up there with Supergiant in my “Studios who I will immediately buy their games” tier of developers.
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Bumhead posted:I recall there being some talk that the Deck is actually the best, most stable place to play New Vegas? Loaded it up and played a bit and it seems fine to me. Maybe I'll try getting Viva New Vegas up and running, but if that doesn't work, it sure seems good enough for me. Now to decide upon a build and perks...
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I just tried to start up Skyrim and got some (mod related) error. Since I haven't changed any mods since last time I played, I'm assuming an update to Skyrim hosed something. I know there was some bit in the setup guide about having to like re-deploy mods in certain situations, but I can remember the specifics. I think it was something about using Mod Organizer, so it'd probably also apply to New Vegas, or any other game using Mod Organizer. I never did understand the reason why Mod Organizer using symlinks or whatever was "better" than just putting the mods into the actual folder. You're going to have to make a new game if you change your mods anyway, so having an "easier" time uninstalling them doesn't seem as useful to me (since I typically set up the mods I want and then don't change them again).
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Annath posted:
It can make handling load orders a LOT easier. Let's say you've got three mods. There are cases where installing them A > B > C causes funky poo poo because mods A and C both touch the same files and if C overwrites A things get weird. This can range from "oh now I've got one low res texture in amongst a sea of high res" on through a crash to desktop. In those cases loading C > B > A might help. But what if B needs to overwrite things in A and now THAT's loving up? Well, go C > A > B. If you're doing this manually by dumping mods into the folders manually it's a HUUUUUGE pain in the rear end. Even this really simple little three mod thing would be a giant headache, because each time you re-order poo poo you need to reinstall all the mods and likely even reinstall the game. A mod manager lets you rearrange the load order a lot easier which ins invaluable for troubleshooting poo poo like this. It also makes it a LOT easier to figure out what mod out of 50 is causing your crashes and disable it, since you can rig up a test save and just start adding and removing things until it gets stable. Still annoying to close the game, disable mod #23, launch, crash, disable mod #24, repeat but it's a whole hell of a lot better than doing all that manually. Yeah, once you're in and stable and playing you're probably not touching your mods ,but good lord having a good organizer makes getting to that point a lot faster and more painless.
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Oh yeah, you want *something*, I meant more that back in the day you had MO and Nexus Mod Manager (NMM), and the primary difference was MO used Symlinks, while NMM added the files directly. Since NMM could reinstall the mods after changing the order with a click of a button anyway, I never understood the appeal of MO. At the time, a lot of mods from the Nexus were packaged for NMM and didn't always play nice with MO. It's moot now AFAIK since Nexus uses Vortex now, which uses Symlinks itself.
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You can get vortex going on the deck to handle mods but it’s janky and not really worth it. Much easier to handle things on a PC then SSH the modded files to the Deck install directly.
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Downloading a mod off the Nexus site, dropping it in the MO2 folder, and checking it in MO2 isn’t any trouble at all on the Deck. Being able to run Vortex in handheld mode would be pretty awesome, though. My Fallout 3 TTW playthrough used around 120 mods and only crashed twice in ~100 hrs so I can attest to the stability of this setup on the Steam Deck.
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I got everything set up working and copied over from my laptop for another run of TTW but the game would just silently crash back to the MO2 screen whenever I tried to start it, so I just started playing FO76 instead which plays really nicely on the deck
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I’m going to redo my mod setup when I get around to playing through New Vegas so I’ll document it and post it here. There are probably a bunch of little fixes and workarounds I used that I just don’t remember.
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What's TTW, in regards to F:NV? Edit: oh, wow, I somehow didn't think that was Google-able. Holy poo poo, 3 and NV smushed into 1 game? Yes please.
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Yeah, Tale of Two Wastelands. One of the greatest mods ever made.
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Tale of Two Wastelands iirc, a Mod that fuses FO4 and NV into 1 game. Edit: Beaten like a mole rat with a baseball bat.
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