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crepeface posted:https://twitter.com/minhealthnz/status/1427435940159520772?s=20 How the gently caress do they think ærosols work? The simultaneous door opening is a red herring like the rubbish bin lid was. Ærosols get into that corridor and stay there for hours. It’s tragic that New Zealand is leading the world in this and they’re still loving up in ways that comedy forum posters have been aware of since spring of 2020. If they don’t want to keep loving up everyone’s lives and their economy on the regular, they need to quarantine people in cabins or motels with no indoor corridors through which air can communicate from one denizen’s space to another’s.
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Real Mean Queen posted:Thank you, that’s fascinating. Natural rubber has been used for a long time. Vulcanization came about in the mid nineteenth century that solves a lot of your problems. A lot of the things we would make out of synthetic polymer now were made out of hard rubber then. Exhaust valve shouldn’t be a problem. Some Great War gas masks had them. I don’t know how exactly they were constructed, but one of the medieval solutions for a valve seal is greased leather like you see in brass musical instruments today. The particulate filter is another question. The electrostatically‐charged, melt‐blown polypropylene used today is totally out of reach. I do know that some early industrial respirators used asbestos fibres and, well, if handled properly that will kill you slower than Son of SARS.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hayh8UMJSFs gently caress This clip from MSA’s “The Air We Breathe” ends just when it’s getting good. I don’t have time for this CDC video. Coming back to it later. e: Boring. Don’t bother. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZEf-tzko0A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5DnTpLmerQ Platystemon fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Aug 17, 2021 |
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If I had gotten a Moderna vaccine, I would feel slightly better about having two doses under my belt, six months in, but I really doubt it’s that much better in the longer term. That’s just my feeling, though. We’ve gone over how there’s no real data. Moderna’s vaccine is not as widely studied and will never be as widely studied because it’s not used in the same volume and in the diversity of countries as Pfizer’s vaccine. If I had gotten two doses of Moderna’s vaccine, I would be pleased as punch to get a third. What I got in the winter was Pfizer’s, and I don’t have a strong desire to seek out Moderna for a third (or “first”). I expect that a wider spaced spaced Pfizer vaccine is just as good and having a mixed course might give me paperwork hassles down the road. Besides which, the second dose of the Pfizer vaccine hit me decently hard. I would gladly bear a potentially stronger Moderna reaction if I thought it would do me any good, but I don’t. Something I would really like to see is a matched cohort study of people who got their Pfizer doses spaced at four weeks because Walgreens was lazy, versus Moderna and three‐week Pfizer. It would answer some questions and it’s doable from a desk.
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Keep your horse inside the barn (safely) with a device that will tell you if the horse has gotten outside the barn.
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tuo posted:Janssen is the J&J vaccine, hth Eight months is a dubious claim. I hope that helps. 
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Sunny Side Up posted:my work is having CVS come by to give people vaccines. i haven't provided proof of vaccination to HR so that they can't strip me of my mask. should i use the pop up vaccination to get a booster? i'm thinking yes, if there's a good way to get away with it Maybe play it by ear. See if it seems likely your boss will find out. Bring your card and see if you can get the booster info on it, after you’ve already gotten the needle, no takesie backsies.
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Joementum posted:maybe we should............. trust the experts? It owns that the draw of brunch is greater than the cinema’s. I can only imagine that the logic is “well I can see a movie at home, but you know what I can’t do? Eat.” Also loling at the infectious disease experts who would eat at a restaurant while masked, somehow. Relevant Tangent posted:Oh yeah absolutely still getting my booster sooner rather than later just curious if Pfizer's "you'll probably need a booster" talk from a while back was them specific. Sounds like it is so far. Amusingly, the D&D approved answer to this question is now “Moderna crew will need a booster because Joseph Robinette Biden (pbuh) did not make a distinction between the vaccines”.
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Sunny Side Up posted:literally, word for word, just had someone say "Covid is over. It's only in people's heads, now." 
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:The mass of normal people are cautious about this and taking steps to protect themselves. It’s because of capitalism, OP.
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Pittsburgh Public Schools is pushing the start of the school year back two weeks because they're short over 400 (!!) bus drivers. “It’s been months since I checked that school bus driver channel I watch sometimes.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2ZLOFPTURE We’re so hosed.
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UnknownTarget posted:Why was the last thread closed? Staff shortage
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:It really is loving amazing how accurate this thread has continued to be over the past sixteen months simply by taking the 'excessive caution until proven otherwise' route. “Hey you know that angry ball of proteins that everyone has been bargaining with or ignoring? Yeah, it’s not going to go away on its own.” Next month: It doesn’t go away. Everyone but C‐SPAM is shocked.
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Raiad posted:i couldn't imagine that the load bearing slurs holding our forums together could support more than 5000 pages in a thread, it's amazing that they held together as long as they did with the last thread I don’t understand why the software has trouble with long threads. It only has to display one page at a time. There shouldn’t be a dependence on what’s on on every other page.
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SKULL.GIF posted:look at bottom left and click the dropdown menu. each page is a line. multiply by # of actively browsing users in cspam Replace the dropdown box with a text box to type in the page number. Jeffrey can PM me for my rate for further consulting.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:So elastomeric crew, quick question about the seal test since I ordered the whole speaking diaphragm honeywell thingie and it just came. That line of Honeywell respirators never sealed properly around my nose and it sounds like you may have the same problem. I would fail a proper occupational fit test. If you would similarly fail, that’s a problem. It’s fine if it lifts off your nose when you really forcefully exhale, but it shouldn’t happen in normal breathing, even when exercising. The clicking sounds like the exhalation valve doing its thing and that’s fine.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:It only lifts off when I block the exhalation valve as part of the test thing. Oh yeah that’s fine. As for the clicking valve, some models are stiffer than others. They can all get clicky if soiled. You’ll want to clean the valve and mating surface if a respirator that hasn’t been clicky starts to.
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Mr. Pizza posted:Moderna #3 at Costco: They might still try to match up your name/D.O.B. to insurance because it pays more than the feds. It’s a curse of the information era.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:Thanks. So yeah, it's fine that it only gets air leak when I exhale with the valve covered. During normal operation it is - insofar as I can tell - fine. And it passes the negative pressure check just fine. OSHA calls them “user seal checks” and they’re interchangeable. You only have to do one—positive, negative, or as described in the respirator’s manual. It should not be possible to fail one and not another if you’re conducting them properly.
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UnfortunateSexFart posted:Covid starting gang wars in NZ Gangs are making the world a safer place by discouraging the use of inferior facial coverings. Thank you, gangs.
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Raccooon posted:Haven't read this thread is a week. Lemon, it’s Wednesday.
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Greg Legg posted:ahahaha why would they admit that what the gently caress She was following CDC guidance.
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I’m serious. She checked the boxes. CDC posted:I think or know I had COVID-19, and I had symptoms She was in her ninth day of symptoms on the twenty‐first and brunched on the twenty‐fifth. She had never had a fever. Bruch day minus three had this update: quote:I'm finally feeling less like death today, able to get up and walk around a bit. I haven't worked out in over a week, which is weird for me, but hopefully will be able to in a few days. I'm still congested but can taste things and breathe through my nose again. My ears have mostly stopped popping. I'm doing a fourth test in the morning which will hopefully be negative. If it is, some friends from out of town want to meet up. We had plans to meet last weekend but canceled for obvious reasons. I told them it depends on how we feel, but if we do we'll be masked and outdoors. That’s improvement and the third and final bullet point met. By current CDC guidance, she was good to go. The CDC is dumber than GBS. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Aug 18, 2021 |
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:General accepted public opinion for, like, a loving year now has been that people who don't have the sniffles or aren't actively coughing can't spread the disease, DESPITE the fact that academic information has been freely available this entire time stating that the disease has an incubation period of up to two weeks and that the majority of transmission is by asymptomatic people during the incubation period. There was a short but impactful period in February of 2020 where the medical equivalents of Nate Silver bullied the people who had first sounding the alarm on asymptomatic spread into retracting the claim. The general public’s understanding would be spotty regardless, but those pedants have a lot of blood on their hands.
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Stevie Lee posted:lmmfao “Look, we can’t tell them to get safe and effective medicine that costs the government almost twenty dollars till enough of them drop dead to give us ninety-five percent confidence that it’s absolutely mecessary.”
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Why do we let these idiots run the world?
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Tzen posted:i still can't believe some of the parents i know that just continue to deny that covid will hit them It’s the world’s most polite pathogen. We ought to investigate Canada as its point of origin.
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pigz posted:She did say they would likely unblind at EUA but they haven't committed to it. We'll see what the docs say at the appointment. Seems if they are this late getting expansion going hard to believe there will be an EUA before years end. Medical ethics mean that they have to let your kid get the shot when it’s available under EUA, even if it is to the detriment of their ongoing study. If they do not automatically unblind when EUA is granted, call your study contact and tell them you have an appointment to get Pigz Junior a shot. They’ll unblind then.
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Lacrosse posted:lol for anyone that got a J&J vaccine, no booster for you I hate the “more science is needed” thought-terminating cliche. “We can’t give you a life jacket because they have’t been tested on capricorns.”
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Crazyweasel posted:a fun retrospective would be a visualization of how much data other vaccines have been approved on compared to all the poo poo we have with these and how we aren’t doing anything. Tetanus shots may well be effective past ten years. We give boosters because when in doubt, better safe than sorry. That is apparently a piece of wisdom that has been forgotten.
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Lacrosse posted:Yeah no guilt here, I just hate lying. Washington State does track vaccine status so I'm trying to come up with a fake name to give them when I walk in. Maximilianus Titros
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Lacrosse posted:I could use more female names guys, help Aurelia Preciate Ajab
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skewetoo posted:I think they said space constallations or Greek or Roman godesses or something. You know when you've thought through your naming convention Andromeda strain let’s gooooooo!
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Lenin Stimpy posted:Yep, here's a discussion with Eric Topol on that (on MedCram): A little before five minutes: “I think, to your question, that it was because we had a vaccine‐centric strategy. That would have worked, and we would have full containment now, but then came Delta” LOL good one.
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Asproigerosis posted:Yeah there are stringent requirements for using n95s (annual fit testing and medical clearance) all mandated by OSHA regulation. Frankly I'm not sure how they could deny someone using it in an work activity that doesn't require it and thus not subject to OSHA regs. It's not like meeting the requirements would be difficult, it's just that they most certainly don't have any experience in doing it and the paradoxical liability of trying to figure it out and failing at it instead of just giving you no protection and letting you die to roni. Oh great, employer. So can I get it in writing that my work does not involve entry into an environment hazardous to respiratory health? HiHo ChiRho posted:Got a response back from my email to the superintendent of my kids school district: LOLing that all of the negatives of N95s except “supply chain issues” (in August of 2020) also apply to KN95s. Supply chain issues can’t do poo poo to my fire safe full of N95s. Meanwhile, in the Southern Hemisphere… 
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a_gelatinous_cube posted:No clue if these are legit, but this is how my Amazon order came. I figured they are being careful with the 3M stuff since the scrutiny and lawsuits now, but if not guess I'll die. That doesn’t look inconsistent with legitimate product, but counterfeits have been seen in the wild.
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Greg Legg posted:I have a friend back in Hawaii who is currently refusing to get vaccinated. He lives with his grandmother and his dad. He is waiting for the novavax vaccine because that is the one that he wants to take. He's recently been telling me he is having panic attacks because his job might start mandating that he get vaccinated or tested weekly. I'm just venting, but this is a guy who watches prepper youtube and is supposedly ready for a "SHTF" situation and the idea of talking to someone about this is giving him panic attacks. Typical prepper. Can’t even assemble the IKEA vaccine, demands lepidopterans put the spike together for him. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Aug 19, 2021 |
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Joementum posted:Kate Larose sat slack-jawed on Monday night in Canaan as she watched her local school board deliberate its back-to-school pandemic policies. “Freedom and Unity”
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