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Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003
It took me ages and about 6 tries and $100+ to finally find some decent goggles for eye protection that goes over glasses, isn't excessively vented, and doesn't interfere with normal N95's.
So far they're great. They're not a perfect seal (there's gaps around the eyeglass entrance, obviously) but I ordered some sticky neoprene tape I might try to close that up with. They ride over the top edge of my N95's and actually help hold them down either side of the nose which is great.
Not sure how they'll interact with respirators, depends on how high up the nose they come.

https://www.zoro.com/sellstrom-heat-resistant-safety-goggles-clear-anti-fog-lens-odyssey-ii-series-s80225/i/G6284098/

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Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

jetz0r posted:

I have the same goggles, and they can't seal on my face. There's a couple spots that seem like the foam layer should be thicker, because it's just floating over my skin, and no amount of readjusting fixes it.

Sorry to hear that. I suppose one of these six pairs sitting in a pile here that don't fit me would do the trick. There probably isn't a shortcut to wasting a bunch of money for eye protection. Unless you just go for a full face respirator.

You could also get some basically neoprene weather stripping tape and see if you can bulk up the areas where the foam isn't thick enough.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003
Vermont's like... 80% fully vaccinated and 88% first dose for >=12yo. They currently have 9 people in the ICU and 34 hospitalized for COVID, for the whole state. You're obviously going to see higher % of vaccinated severe cases when almost everyone's vaccinated.

Is it weird that pfizer seems to hold higher efficacy in 65+ groups than in 18-49? That must have something to do with behavior.

Also thanks to this thread for making me feel OK being the only guy at the office with eye protection when surrounded by unmasked supposedly vaccinated people. And thanks to rubby for my new coffee mugs.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Asproigerosis posted:

I mean I'm just ballparking that since actual charge costs are state secrets to hospitals, but yeah hospital mri's are obscene costs. I'm pretty confident any mri is at a minimum $2000.

My last MRI Enterography shows $12,700 in allowed costs on the claim. Probably a premium for the likelihood of having to hose down the machine afterwards.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

quote:

He bluntly said "that's life"

That's life (that's life), that's what all the people say
You're ridin' high in April, shot down in May
But I know I'm gonna change that tune
When I'm all vaxxed up, titter'd up in June

I said that's life (that's life), and as funny as it may seem
Some people get their kicks stompin' on the vaccine
But I don't let it, let it get me down
'cause this fine old world... it's open biden town

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003
All these horror stories about intubation...

In the US at least, it doesn't seem like there's any even less-awful options once you get to where BiPAP isn't cutting it any more.

A) You have a DNR/DNI and basically have to slowly suffocate/drown while being alert/awake because they can't sedate you without intubation because sedation is essentially euthanasia if you have bad O2 stats already.
B) You get intubated and just have to hope that you either die while you're out or if you recover that you're not horribly disabled for the rest of your life.

If you get intubated can a loved one have them 'pull the plug' without waking you up once you get past a certain point?

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Why Am I So Tired posted:

Need a little bit of advice, hopefully this is a non-issue.

My MSNBC-poisoned MIL "needs" to have work done on her car right now. After two weeks of intense fighting about the situation, I've talked her and my wife out of the less safe option (they drive together to pick up the car wearing masks with windows down) and into what I think is a better option (my wife and I do it entirely ourselves, contactless / no conversations with the dealership workers). I drive my car back, my wife drives her mom's car back.

My concern is my wife entering her mom's car and being blasted by a bunch of suspended COVID particles. She won't wear the respirator or goggles to drive, so she'd be wearing nothing but an N95 (an old 3M 1860). I'm not allowed to drive my MIL's car, so my driving it in the respirator is not an option.

Really hoping this is negligible risk (and I'm going to call the dealership and ask if they can leave the windows open when they're done, though I'm anticipating resistance if it rains), but I can't help but shake that something as stupid as this is what ultimately is going to get us. Would you guys worry about this? What if the windows are left up beforehand due to rain? Is this worth digging my heels in even further?

I was in the exact same situation last fall, and probably will have to do again later this month or in November.

I did contactless dropoff (that's easy) on Friday morning. Then I had them leave the car out of the way in their lot w/ the key in it. I went over later that evening w/ N95 on and just quick reached under the seat to grab the key, locked it up and left it over the weekend.

Then went in Sunday afternoon when the place was closed, opened all the windows and doors & vents blasting for ~5 minutes while I wiped down the handles & steering wheel/etc. Then drove home with the windows still halfway down and N95 still on.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

meet girls at the store posted:

I’m not surprised I caught delta from household spread, I am surprised at the severity of the symptoms considering how many titers I presumably had/have swimming in my veins. I was hoping for asymptomatic. :arghfist:

If you got boosted in August are you immunocompromised in some way or just Max Titers? I got mine in August because I'm on antimetabolite medication (which specifically suppresses antibody production) and have been told to basically operate as if I'm unvaccinated forever. :rubby:

I know I'm hoping it keeps me out of the hospital at least (as it seems to be doing for you, fingers crossed) but real immunity is probably a pipe dream. Hopefully the PrEP version of the antibody cocktail becomes available in 2022, though!

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

meet girls at the store posted:

She had a full meltdown where she ranted for several minutes about how boosters are only meant for cancer patients and stormed out of the exam room. After a minute or so she came back in tears, apologized, clarified that I shouldn’t have qualified for the immunocompromised booster shot, and said that she’s mad at the pharmacist who approved it and not at me. I asked about the warning label on my medication, and she just reiterated that the booster is only for those who are severely immunocompromised. I asked if I could be mildly immunocompromised because of the medication and she said that we don’t know. :rubby:

Goddamn sorry. I mean it's not like we were short on shots in August. Doses had already slowed way the gently caress down even by July. The last bullet point on the CDC's guide says "Active treatment with high-dose corticosteroids or other drugs that may suppress your immune response." If a drug that has a loving warning label on it doesn't count as 'other drugs that may suppress your immune response' then why the hell does it have the warning.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Why Am I So Tired posted:

It is truly the worst. "I did my part to get vaccinated, I will no longer be wearing a mask" goes straight to the top every time. It's like a self-propelled consent manufacturing machine.

I think we're getting to the point soon where I will have more respect for someone who is antivax but wears a mask everywhere (I know, probably like 12 people in the whole country) than I'm-vaxxed-and-can-do-whatever-I-want.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

gradenko_2000 posted:

Isolate yourself for two weeks prior to visiting your parents. Be masked the entire time. Don't eat in their presence - if you'd like to share a meal together, do it outside, with you sitting some distance away from them so you're not talking into each other's faces. Do another two weeks isolation before your next "I will go out and see other people" activity.

My parents are high risk due to age and we are high risk for medical reasons. Everybody's vaccinated and varies between quite careful and fully crack pinged. Everybody isolates for at least 10-14 days, and does a PCR test ~2 days before the visit. Though we're only doing one more visit in October here assuming things will get much worse during the holiday season again, so I don't expect to see them again until April after that.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003
Well my unvaxxed niece just tested positive because her school has no NPI. Her entire family and visiting FIL were all vaccinated way back in march/april and no boosters yet, so we'll see how that goes. I'm predicting a lot more 'extremely rare breakthrough' cases, sadly.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Why Am I So Tired posted:

I can't figure out if it's hostility or obliviousness, except with the staff members who repeatedly scream "masks off" while aggressively approaching.

...what?

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

legsarerequired posted:

As far as southeast Texas: I love my respirator because I don't get stares or anything from anyone. I'm the only person I've seen wearing a respirator in public but I do feel safer wearing it than a vogmask. I have gotten some weird looks but no one has confronted me or anything. Unfortunately the few times I've gone to grocery stores I have seen that even early in the morning there's always at least 3-4 maskless people and at least 1 or 2 people not covering their nose.

I've only ever regretted under-masking or failing to wear goggles or whatever. Never once after the fact have I felt bad about wearing a N95 or respirator or goggles and then not really needed it because nobody came near me. I think it's the spotlight effect we all think others are paying more attention to us than they are. Other than 'oh that's weird' 99% of people will not care enough to say/do anything even if you're in a full face.

Unless you live in why am I so tired's building, I guess.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Gio posted:

speaking of testing, getting a test is really inconvenient. your options are (a) call every pharmacy in the area for a rapid test (b) wait at least a couple hours at urgent care or (c) schedule a walgreens/cvs test (which is you swabbing yourself in the drive-thru and having walgreens mail it for you)

am i missing a much easier option?

I have a couple Amazon PCR tests sitting around just waiting. Take it in the morning, drop off in UPS bin, have results the next day.

BUT, I think the biggest problem is knowing what results would be accepted by your hospital system so you can get mabs if you need them. Will they accept regular pharmacy results? Does it need to be an urgent care or normal lab? Who should you even call first if you suspect you are positive and would qualify for mabs? Who loving knows.

I keep seeing posts/stories of people who are positive and probably qualify but somehow it takes more than 10 days from symptom onset to get tested and talk to a doctor...

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Glumwheels posted:

Should I just buy 3m n95 masks instead? My wife won’t wear a respirator.

Absolute most important thing is fit. I bought like 6 different varieties of 3M and Moldex N95's to find one that fits me and one that fits my wife. The few that didn't fit at all I gave away, the couple that fit so-so I kept for just working with sawdust or whatnot.

I did finally get a respirator but yeah my wife is not crazy about it (she's not immunsuppressed like me but she is boosted now so whatever). But the N95's she has fit really well.

I have a pile of Powecom KN95's for any cases where I'm outside and might possibly have a neighbor walk up to me or something, I always have something at least in my pocket.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003
I just went through a drive-through flu shot clinic in my 7502 and goggles, and the lady gave me the biggest dramatic rolleyes ever when I gestured for her to put a mask on before I rolled down my window. I don't care if I have a P100 on I don't want you leaning into my window and talking/coughing on me.

Also while waiting in the pharmacy line to pay ahead of time, a guy walking into the liquor store stopped to cough up a chunk of lung before proceeding in without even a cloth mask on.
:rubby:

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Silver Nitrate posted:

Went to a specialist for an autoimmune illness and only a couple of the nurses were wearing masks. All the rest of the staff, including the front desk staff and the doctor were not wearing masks. Someone had a dry, hacking cough.

Cool!

It's not like people with autoimmune conditions might have suppressed immune systems and be vulnerable to COVID.

When I needed a MRI and had to drink contrast they literally shut down the entire waiting/changing area for me so I could be alone when I took off my mask.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Koirhor posted:

my employer just sent out an email indicating that due to federal regulations they must now mandate vaccination and that must be complete by Dec 8th with an uploaded scan of your vax card. Also in order to comply by the deadline you’ll need shot 1 by today or tomorrow.

lmao

Yeah we're on the same schedule for federal contractors. Tomorrow is last day for moderna, next Wednesday is the last day for pfizer. Last day for J&J :rubby: is Nov 24th.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003
Inlaws posted pics in the stands at a game including my COVID positive niece. I guess 7 days since her test is almost as good as 10 days since symptoms so OPEN BIDEN. :rubby:

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Nice, I have 3x pfizer so hopefully I can work out a full-strength moderna as my fourth. Though I keep holding out hope we'll see something updated for the newer spike mutations.

vvv Oh yeah and I hope we have monoclonal PrEP by next year sometime too. I'll be first in line for that poo poo.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Raskolnikov2089 posted:

Doesn't matter if it can't outspread Delta.

If it's sufficiently different then it can simply run in parallel with Delta, assuming neither vaccination or natural infection with Delta provides much protection from A.30

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

This is interesting but the specialist I see has told me they are not seeing unusually poor outcomes for patients on TNF blockers (eg humira). Though that may have been mostly pre-Delta. I wonder if they're seeing a difference now.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

mdemone posted:

I hate it when doctors/NPs/nurses are hot, it's like a serious flex

My wife had to have surgery in a university hospital and was furious it was like Grey's Anatomy in there. Network TV good-looking.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Glumwheels posted:

Didn’t Dingle say immunocompromised people should get Moderna? I got Pfizer and had a lousy response to it overall even with the booster so I will get moderna in 6 months unless my doctor says I can get it now.

My parents want to stick to Pfizer for their boosters, I wanted to get them to switch to moderna too. I also can’t find them appointments either now, what a loving fiasco. They should just go to their doctor, why is it still primarily only retail pharmacy’s that’s are doing this poo poo.

I'm immunocompromised but the only one I could get was a third pfizer, all the pharmacies are poo poo here and mix/match wasn't yet approved. I got my third dose in August so when I'm looking at getting boosted in Jan/Feb I'll be holding out to get a moderna booster for sure.

My parents at least had an absolute loving nightmare getting shots and boosters through their doctor's offices. My mom had a way better experience (not having to wait an hour in a waiting room with dicknosing assholes, for example) by just going to the little local non-chain pharmacy.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

RoboChrist 9000 posted:

So I was using my 3M 7500 while my secure-click is drying off from the cleaning, and I noticed that when I do the positive pressure check, I hear what sounds like air escaping, but I can't feel any leaks and I pass a negative pressure check just fine. It sounds like it's coming from the side. Any idea what it could be or if there's any other way to test stuff?

I mean you might just be blowing too hard. It doesn't take much at all to push past the seal when you're doing a positive pressure check. Unless it starts taking much less pressure than it used to, or if it is leaking at normal exhalation pressure when moving your mouth and talking, I'm not sure positive pressure checks are super critical.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

IAMKOREA posted:

Deep cleaning procedures lmao what the gently caress does that even mean it's a loving airborne virus. God i hate work. gently caress.

The fact that they closed the office on Friday and it'll presumably be (mostly?) empty over the weekend is the closest thing to an actual 'deep cleaning' you can do. That is, let the ventilation run for a couple days. So these guys are doing more than 99.99999% of employers will.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

facetoucher cat posted:

I just dropped my kitty off at the vets for his surgery. Not a single person there was wearing a mask. Didn't see the vet but from reception to kennel staff to the random old lady sleeping in a chair in the corner, all free facing

I'm going to be fairly pissed if my cat gets covid from these god damned chuds

I switched vets last year because they were allowing people inside with or without masks. But now since this summer even the 'better' vet in town is allowing people inside, though they will still do curbside drop-off and pickup, but there's always the chance the cat catches it still. Thankfully I got caught up on shots last month so hopefully nobody needs to come in over the winter.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Morbus posted:

yeah my point is an idling 737 or w/e puts out a shitload of exhaust that isn't very well filtered by the cabin air system. During flight, cabin air all comes from compressor bleed which invariably contains higher amounts of CO and CO2 than normal outdoor air. When the engines are off during boarding, air comes from an external unit at the terminal, but you are still huffing a lot of exhaust from the APU.

I would hope your compressor bleed doesn't contain CO2 and CO during flight, unless you're drafting the plane in front of you.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003
The nursing home my Grandmother is in couldn't get Walgreens to come out to give them boosters so they just... gave up? Didn't bother to tell the families that they weren't getting boosters lined up, and everybody who cares will have to be taken individually to a pharmacy. That's certainly not going to cause any outbreaks...

It's crazy, they were doing an absolutely amazing job up until now, then like a light switch just loving gave up. Open Biden.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Asproigerosis posted:

The nose bridge is a metal twist tie. Don't worry, we don't ever clean inside the bore so all the covid patients spewing their droplets all over inside above your head left you a little treat.

Moldex makes some N95s that are fully molded and have no metal strip or staples in them. They waved the little wand around it, nothing lit up, and they let me wear it in the MRI. Might be a good option for anybody who thinks they might have an MRI coming up soon.

EDIT: The ones that have the 'smartstrap' or 'handystrap'.

Rescue Toaster fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Nov 14, 2021

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

quote:

Regeneron Pharmaceuticals produces the cocktail, which has been shown to reduce the risk of COVID-19 infection by more than 80 percent for more than eight months.

Dr. Bill Petri, one of the leaders of the researchers testing the cocktail, says he was surprised by the durability of the protection.

“The significance of the finding is that the antibody cocktail can prevent COVID-19 in immunocompromised individuals whom we know sometimes fail to respond to the vaccine,” said Petri.

The extent to which the CDC/FDA are going to drag their loving heels on this... if you thought the vaccine stuff was bad. I should be asking around for some kind of trial because that's the only way I'll get it while it still matters.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Korean Boomhauer posted:

they take it super seriously at my job. i got a stern lecture both times i didnt have it on and was treated like i was hiding something.

For a second I thought you were talking about masking.

I have my camera on for 1-on-1's otherwise that would be pretty weird. Every team anything I leave it off though. Nobody cares and I rarely am talking.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

McNugget Buddy posted:

A double-blinded Phase III trial testing Regeneron as a preventative drug in immunocompromised patients just started last month with ~9000 participants:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT05074433

Should be done by April - so hopefully we can Max Titers with Regeneron at that point if the results are good

This says the doses are subcutaneous, and I always assumed regeneron was IV. For someone who's likely to end up on this that's really interesting. I wonder if refrigerated shots at home will be possible.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Platystemon posted:

What kind were you using that have latex in them?

I think the rubber elastic straps on most masks are latex.

My Moldex 2600's with the cloth "HandyStrap" straps don't appear to have latex, that might be worth trying. But I'm not certain what's inside the cloth part that makes it stretchy obviously.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Iron Crowned posted:

I drive by a dealership on the way to work, and it's basically empty, they have enough cars to line the road, but a row or two back it's easy to see that its barren.

I lucked out on my car. Had a bigger down payment than I would have liked, but a 2018 Crosstrek Limited i with only 16.5 and some change. 2018 Crosstreks with 4x the mileage are listed online for about $10k more, it's insane.

I checked and my Subaru dealer has 7 new cars on the lot and most of the used stuff is junk. They offered me basically original invoice price for my 2019 Forrester that's about to come off lease. Which would mean I effectively would have leased it for like... $80/mo. But at the same time, I have no idea what I would buy and it's in perfect condition and barely driven so why would I get rid of it to replace it with something new but horribly overpriced.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003
Easy testing with a simple nasal swab consisting of.... your entire index finger up your nose.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

facetoucher cat posted:

POV: About to get covid in exchange for some dry rear end turkey and no bread bc the hosts wife is afraid of gluten
...
gently caress me :(

Just walk out. You can leave.
If it sucks, hit da bricks.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003
Fancy old place settings are not that expensive anymore. Nobody under 50 gives a poo poo about antique china/silver. So that's not really an indicator of wealth anymore. If you want it you can get it.

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Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003
Anyone else find Auras a little loose on the chin? Since both the straps meet at basically one point in the middle, there's nothing pulling back on the lower half so although the top fits great I feel like any talking/moving my mouth at all it feels like the mask slides around over the bottom of my chin/throat rather than moving with it. Which doesn't feel great fit-wise.

It's a shame because otherwise they're the best seal I've ever gotten around the nose and do much better with fogging even this morning when I had to get gas and it was super cold.

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