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welcome to cspams judiciary thread a hub for pedantic legal bullshit that no one actually understands but which supersedes all this countrys laws because the constitution says so meet the nine most powerful people in the country when they feel like doing stuff uncle clarence thomas: thats a racism which shouldnt be used because it assumes thomas cares what white people think when actually he doesnt care what anyone thinks because hes a crazy selfish rear end in a top hat stephen breyer the ice cream man: thinks of himself as immortal and since the democrats are gonna keep winning forever its no big deal btw these are in order of appointment and breyer is ten years older than thomas because lol clinton jimmy john roberts: desperately trying to rebrand the supreme court as classy despite the fact that everyone already knows the judiciary like fast food is a necessary evil and no one should actually like it pajama samuel alito: writes dumb opinions for dumb babies that just read gently caress you got mine cant even do the funny weird ninteenth century poo poo that thomas does which gets a laugh every so often sonia sotomayor mccheese: the cool liberal justice like roberts with the same basic goal of legitimizing the courts but a lot less power and friends as of yet shamefully has not acquired a ruth bader ginsburg style cult of personality elena every kiss begins with kagan: the last liberal on the court probably ever who hilariously received a recommendation from antonin scalia if youre ever tempted to describe any of these people as being good neil before garlandsuch: evilly stole the supreme court seat obama earned by sending in commandos to hit scalia with a heart attack gun is hilariously not necessarily worse than garland would have been because hes a libertarian who likes native rights and mistrusts law enforcement brett favre kavanaugh: has branded himself as an all american victim by getting mad some uppity woman called him a rapist is otherwise not that much different than anthony kennedy who he replaced infuriating conservatives who wanted a thousand years of fascist judicial darkness amy coney barrett wallace: has a bible instead of a hand and loves to loudly talk up how much she loves jesus but comes from an evangelical movement thats more hype than execution its actually legit funny how mad the chuds can be about the trump appointees sometimes anyway this isnt just a supreme court thread any other appeals court also qualifies for discussion about the only thing that doesnt is like murder trials and stuff because those are boring not enough arcane rules to jizz over have fun
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https://twitter.com/ReutersLegal/status/1428165181780209664 the supreme court seems reluctant to ban abortion outright although who the gently caress knows really this kind of thing is probably an oh yeah from the team of six though
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hopin' this thread sticks around I'd love to have a clearinghouse for judiciary info in cspam
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is this about larry
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lobster shirt posted:is this about larry there's something about larry
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Aug 19, 2021 22:48
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it was pretty funny when trump got mad that the sterotypical libertarian college professor acted like a stereotypical libertarian college professor and was the deciding vote striking down a bunch of his orders also i remembered that scalia is dead from hoagie overdose lol
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1428764792324608000 thanks obarrett
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https://twitter.com/Haleaziz/status/1428921072464793612 justice alito heroically making an effort to allow biden to fix trumps bad immigration policy unless of course what he actually wants to do is bitchslap the biden administration even harder
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tell me you dont know anything about supreme court history without saying you dont know anything about supreme court history https://mobile.twitter.com/LemieuxLGM/status/1431409062604783621
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The Supreme Court dictating foreign policy is incredibly funny. AMLO is pretty good at placating US presidents, but I'm not sure he's gonna be able to butter up all nine justices.
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https://twitter.com/SCOTUSblog/status/1432931850444582912?s=20 maybe they would have blocked the law if the plaintiff described pregnancy as a tenant-landlord relationship
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Some Guy TT posted:tell me you dont know anything about supreme court history without saying you dont know anything about supreme court history RFK was murdered because he promised to bring his brother’s assassins to justice if elected President. Dulles was having none if it.
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cool cool cool https://twitter.com/SCOTUSblog/status/1433281871555833859?s=20
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it’s not a surprising outcome at all procedurally speaking and I’ll  that the law gets struck down as soon as somebody tries to challenge an actual enforcement of it.
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The Kingfish posted:it’s not a surprising outcome at all procedurally speaking and I’ll elaborate please
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Sep 2, 2021 06:43
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The Kingfish posted:it’s not a surprising outcome at all procedurally speaking and I’ll Sure, that’s possible, but where are the clinics that are going to be willing to perform one just to be a test case knowing that their entire staff will be sued and potential subject to disastrous financial penalties if the law is upheld? It will eventually get challenged but in the meantime the chilling effect will kill off the majority of the clinics in the state so even if it’s overturned the damage will already be done.
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Remember Dread-Scott? The Supreme Court is a not a legitimate institution.
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Breyer will never retire and is going to die the very instant Republicans regain a Senate majority.
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Vox Nihili posted:Breyer will never retire and is going to die the very instant Republicans regain a Senate majority. yea, and the same liberals who get irate when people suggest that RBG should have retired during Obama’s term because it is NOT a woman’s place to step aside for anyone will be extremely mad online that a white man did the same thing and handed another seat to the Rs
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indigi posted:elaborate please Lol the justices bascially said “well we maybe could tell Texas not to enforce a ban but the law actually just deputizes the entire private citizenry of Texas to ban abortion and we can’t have an injunction against infinite unnamed hypothetical litigants” though it seems like they could have just issued an injunction on the grounds of the laws crazy letters of marque for pro lifers construction I would bet they strike down Texas’s law but overturn Roe with Mississippi’s law
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indigi posted:elaborate please its a weird loving law and the medias been seriously underselling just how loving weird it is basically abortion isnt a crime the cops can hunt you down and throw you in jail over but rather a civil offense any random yahoo can sue you over the random yahoo can get ten grand plus legal expenses while the person getting an abortion cant even get expenses in the case of a completely frivolous lawsuit theres so many bizarre premises in the law the supreme court is probably waiting to see which one gets challenged first im not sure anyone is ever going to actually try to sincerely enforce it or if it only even exists to provoke abortion lawsuits
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So lets say I heard an idea: If a person were to acquire the republican voter list of texas voters, and file lawsuits against every republican woman in the state for intending to get an abortion under the new law, would that be against any laws itself? The law also states that the state cant involve itself with these suits - not sure how that would affect this fantasy.
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Some Guy TT posted:its a weird loving law and the medias been seriously underselling just how loving weird it is basically abortion isnt a crime the cops can hunt you down and throw you in jail over but rather a civil offense any random yahoo can sue you over the random yahoo can get ten grand plus legal expenses while the person getting an abortion cant even get expenses in the case of a completely frivolous lawsuit how can you sue someone for having an abortion, isn’t that private medical information? does the law include compelling medical records subpoenas for every single case brought under it?
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indigi posted:how can you sue someone for having an abortion, isn’t that private medical information? does the law include compelling medical records subpoenas for every single case brought under it? I don’t even think you can sue the woman for having the abortion. just the doctors and everybody who helped her get the abortion. e: bad boys for life posted:So lets say I heard an idea: An attorney who tried that would be disbarred for filing frivolous complaints. Not a Texas lawyer, but I expect a non-attorney who tried this would soon be enjoined from filing these type of lawsuits. I haven’t looked too deeply into the law, but I would expect from what I’ve read that pro se litigants could file these types of claims on their own standing lol The Kingfish has issued a correction as of 16:57 on Sep 2, 2021 |
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just switch the US to a civil law system and watch the supreme court justices shrivel up like hemorrhoids
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I think I heard of the SHADOW DOCKET before last week, but it didn't really stick in my mind I guess now it's how policy decisions are announced now
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bad boys for life posted:So lets say I heard an idea: I’m not a Texas lawyer and this is not legal advice, but, the pleading standards are often quite relaxed if you properly form your civil complaint and if the individual being sued does not respond you could be awarded a default judgment. The statute specifically prohibits the courts from enjoining you from filing as a vexatious litigant or awarding fees to a defendant to a merit less suit, so any defendant would have to counterclaim perjury or abuse of process or something like that. But you could probably sue nearly anyone under this statute. Filing costs appear to be under $300 or so. You might have more success with lots of small suits against, for example, individual board members of pro-life organizations rather than one big one against millions of people. Eventually the courts or the legislature will have to regulate this or the entire civil docket in Texas will be consumed with these complaints. You could sue big businesses too like shipping providers, pharmacists, manufacturers of anything from pill bottles to cell phones to automobiles, public utilities such as power, water, and telecommunications, retailers, restauranteurs, banks, realtors, etc. The limit is your imagination and your ability to assert a plausible chain of events that the defendant-to-be somehow aided or abetted an unlawful abortion.
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The Kingfish posted:I don’t even think you can sue the woman for having the abortion. just the doctors and everybody who helped her get the abortion. yeah but the medical workers can’t tell anyone about a procedure they performed due to HIPAA so how would anyone know an abortion took place without a records subpoena? does this law make it so you can file a suit just based on a hunch? e: I guess someone can go in claiming to want an abortion, they say ok we’ll do it, and then you can probably sue them for that, so these offices will be forced to shut down anyway
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if i was a doctor in Texas i would start intentionally estimating that every woman coming in for an abortion is 5 weeks pregnant
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:I’m not a Texas lawyer and this is not legal advice, but, the pleading standards are often quite relaxed if you properly form your civil complaint and if the individual being sued does not respond you could be awarded a default judgment. The statute specifically prohibits the courts from enjoining you from filing as a vexatious litigant or awarding fees to a defendant to a merit less suit, so any defendant would have to counterclaim perjury or abuse of process or something like that. shooting from the hip because this is the something awful forums, but does the Texas legislature have authority to prevent its courts from issuing an equitable order?? I think that sort of thing would be considered an inherent power of the court in my state.
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sounds like the Texas legislator violated Supreme Court ruling therefore the executive should be responsible for enforcing the judicial and arrest all the legislators they should also arrest all the judges and themselves too
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Breyer will die on the day Trump takes office in 2025
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indigi posted:yeah but the medical workers can’t tell anyone about a procedure they performed due to HIPAA so how would anyone know an abortion took place without a records subpoena? does this law make it so you can file a suit just based on a hunch? The fear of potential enforcement is enough to keep Texas abortion providers from violating the law and personally bankrupting themselves, their staffs, their families, etc… And most clinics likely won’t be able to remain in business very long only performing abortions before 5 weeks, so irrespective of whether it’s struck down or not the purpose of shutting down abortion clinics will be fulfilled.
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Yossarian-22 posted:Breyer will die on the day Trump takes office in 2025 they day before he will give a speech scolding people asking judges to retire for political purposes
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seems to me that the supreme court just makes poo poo up and uses whatever justification they can to reach the political end goal they want which is absolute the right thing to do, good on them
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Yossarian-22 posted:Breyer will die on the day Trump takes office in 2025 it is also possible he will die on the day Mitch McConnell is sworn in as Senate Majority Leader in 2023
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