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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Oh dear me posted:

I am staying in for now, because if Starmer keeled over with a heart attack the left could still (as yet) seize power, but I also think the list should be removed.

As the one who came up with the idea, I'm fine with it being removed :shrug:

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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

goddamnedtwisto posted:

The invasion of Iraq was a dead cat to distract us from the true atrocity that Blair committed in 2003, recalling and scrapping every last Invacar rather than letting owners and collectors keep them.

Wikipedia suggests they were mostly government owned but privately owned ones are still around?

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Azza Bamboo posted:

I had no idea they made cars. Makes sense, I suppose.

I mean not like the Bundesrepublik was in the market for strategic bombers ( and indeed looks like they were banned from producing aircraft postwar to make very sure of that). Mitsubishi also did and do make all sorts of stuff.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I miss living in London and having things to do, though I'm glad I wasn't living there for the last 18 months!

I've just done exactly that and tbqh I'm glad I've been here with lots of food options and not the rear end end of Cambridge with one Tesco and 6 places on justeat. Especially when there were/are shortages because I can usually find whatever somewhere if I look around.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Gonzo McFee posted:

Did people really care about being European before Brexit? It just feels like a really fake affectation that people took on in response to being told the bad people were Brexit boys.

I did. Might have been in a minority though. It was part of my identity taken away from me without my consent so yeah that is actually going to upset some people you know.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

learnincurve posted:

Being proud of being European screams of a dogwhistle to me, funny how the guardian are all worried about the scientists and students in Switzerland and the second home in France, but not the poor Eastern European buggers being forced to work in a car wash in Stoke.

I didn't feel proud of it. It was part of my identity, just like being British is without my festooning my house with Union Jacks or longing for the return of the Empire.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I don't know how deep that goes.
When Lady Di died, the monarchy came pretty close to being despised until they turned their response around.

Also the whole thing is the monarchy don't actually rule. They don't have authority (influence is not actually the same thing). It would be very different if they did.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

yung lambic posted:

This looks potentially interesting, and it’s out in a couple of weeks:

I mean everything in that quote also applies to the current Labour party soooo

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

keep punching joe posted:

The monarchy have no authority, but do get to veto legislation that they don't like

...if they want us to become a Republic literally the next day, sure. They don't have a Presidential-style veto.

keep punching joe posted:

and lobby for legislation that they do like.

This, absolutely. They are plutocrats, landlords (and as landlords do have authority over their tenants, yes) and rich people with Murdoch+ levels of influence and deserve the guillotine on that basis. But that is still influence and not authority and there is an important distinction between the two.

feedmegin fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Sep 5, 2021

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

crispix posted:

you wouldn't mind so much if you knew it was an insurance that you could actually loving rely on

Pensioners can absolutely rely on it (offer not valid when we ourselves become pensioners, it's the glue factory for us)

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Camrath posted:

All orders placed before 1400 today have now shipped!

As I’m now officially starting my 40th Birthday celebrations, any orders from then on will ship at the start of next week.

And thanks to everyone who’s ordered :)

Happy birthday. As a 44 year old, I can tell you it's not so bad :shobon:

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

Wait wait wait hold the loving phone.

Are you seriously telling me that cambridge is built on the river cam?

Theres a reason the symbol of Oxford is an ox crossing a shallow bit of river too!

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

I am :corsair: so I was 24 and in my second job and manning a trade booth in Boston (where the planes flew out of) a couple of days before the attack. Then I flew to my then fiancées place in Lansing, Michigan.

Cue a phone call from her parents at 7am, then a panicked car trip to her parents in rural Michigan because obviously the state capital of Michigan was next, then me phoning my dad and hearing him cry for the only time in my life because obviously he and mum had been up for hours, couldn't remember exactly when I was due to leave Boston, and were worried they'd just watched me die on live television.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Mebh posted:

e2: Catte


I am absolutely unable to refuse this cat anything they ask.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Random question - do trades unions' legal bods do stuff like landlord/tenant disputes too? I'm assuming it's strictly work stuff. Not that I have any particular specific reason to fear aggro with my landlord, but if anything legal does crop up for me in the near future that's more likely than work so if a TU does do that kind of thing that would be an extra reason for me to join.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

kecske posted:

some unions have a 'deathbed conversion' clause where if you join and immediately use their legal services or whatever they might not foot the whole bill for you

Yep. Like I say I don't have any immediate concerns so if I were to sign up it had better be now rather than when I actually did need them.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

sinky posted:

Seems unlikely given the praise she got recently

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1438088627758698497?s=20

I mean I know the Conservatives can be...conservative, but we're bringing back public beheadings now?

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

We came across a protest today by Forgotten Veterans highlighting homelessness, PTSD etc. and got talking to one of the guys who has been homeless several times. They are living in portable toilets (like festival toilets) for 5 days.
Anyway this led to a discussion between my friend and I as to whether there is in fact sufficient housing in the UK for everyone to have a home including refugees if there was the political will.
Does anyone know if this is so?

We did house basically everyone homeless for a few weeks in the first lockdown didn't we? Mostly in otherwise unoccupied (because lockdown) hotels.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

goddamnedtwisto posted:

which does actually bring up a good point - when was the last TV show (or popular media generally) where the police were the bad guys? I feel like it was around 1997 and I don't feel like that's a coincidence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shadow_Line_(TV_series) ? :shrug:

Or lots of American stuff, The Wire comes to mind or The Shield.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

goddamnedtwisto posted:

You actually look closer to your avatar than I imagined (I imagine all goons to look like either Sue Perkins or Robbie Coltrane, gender irrelevant, and am seldom proven wrong).

My wife has always called me Hagrid, tbf. Not so much Sue Perkins.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

London-based MEATYGOONS.

Any interest in coming over to my place in Barking in a few weeks (date yet undecided but probably a Saturday) for mass curry? In my spacious backyard weather permitting, if not, inside. If I get too much interest I'll have to winnow things down a bit because even though bae and I are doublestabbed I'm not looking to host a superspreader event or anything, but I figure the half dozen or so people I've had turn up for D&D before COVID stomped over everything (thinking of restarting some sort of game, btw, maybe Dark Heresy or something rather than literal D&D) should be a small enough risk. I suspect there's going to be an overlap between those two social groups in any case :shobon:

There will be a not-too-spicy chicken korma or similar and a rather more spicy vegan something.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Failed Imagineer posted:

Always thought "bender" was one of the more benign-sounding ones, as non-hetero people literally are bending the concept of heteronormative sexuality, or something. But I'm sure it has some awful etymology anyway, and obviously it's the intent that matters, and also it sounds less repugnant to my ear because I haven't had people screaming it in my face every day of my life.

I suspect given its age its more like 'bent copper'. Someone broken or corrupt. The people using it aren't coming there from lgbt theory kindafing.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Wolfsbane posted:

Arrays on the Archimedes started at -10 for some reason. It also had 26 special extra-fast variables you could use to improve performance, helpfully labelled a to z.

This was a computer designed to teach children how to program, which I feel explains a lot.

I assume by 'the Archimedes' you mean its version of BASIC. I don't remember the array index thing but it is not a feature of the CPU hardware. I would be curious to see a reference.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Oh dear me posted:

Which would be relevant if we were writing a compiler :colbert:

I AM writing a compiler, actually. :colbert:

Well I was before Covid and wfh, the last thing i want to do out of work hours now is fire up a text editor on the machine I've already been using for that for 8 hours.

feedmegin fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Sep 20, 2021

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Wolfsbane posted:

Ha, I knew someone would call me out on that. I'm afraid my reference is "things I vaguely remember from learning BASIC years ago".
I think it was explained that if you allocate an array of size (say) 20, then what you actually get is an array of size 30 with indices starting from -10. You can use the negative values to store things like array length. No idea if it's true or not, but I've believed it for nearly 30 years so by gammon logic it's not only true but beyond question.

I can't find anything in the Archimedes BASIC compiler manual so it's possible our teacher was making it up, I can't remember if I ever checked.

Ok yeah that COULD be something like array metadata and would be used for yeah stuff like bounds checking to save your dumb rear end from a crash if you go out of bounds and give you a nice error message, i've seen that. For you as J Random Programmer not the guy writing the interpreter though you a) don't care about it just treat your arrays as zero indexed and b) shouldn't gently caress with it unless you know exactly what you're doing it is Not For You. Itd be like loving around with the exact implementation of malloc() on modern Linux, or C++ vtables, both of which do something similar. It'll end in tears.

This is why it's not in the manual, your teacher was giving you a look behind the scenes. :)

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Mega Comrade posted:

Seatle computer products :actually:
86-DOS was the first dos, Microsoft bought the licence for this and then made MS-DOS.

*cough* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOS/360_and_successors :actually::actually:

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

CGI Stardust posted:

and never fear for Owen Jones! no doubt as soon as the first softest of soft-left challengers presents themselves against Starmer, Jones will be back on the unity horse again

:shrug: apart from a brief wobble he was always pro-Corbyn, I generally think he's a good egg and the only one left at the Guardian after Gary Younge moved to America. I don't think him saying 'ok if Starmer is actually serious about this whole unity candidate thing let's not gently caress his poo poo up from the get-go' was a bad take, and he has fully recognised that Starmer is a lying shitweasel since.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Sooo my hunch was correct, my landlord has found a new estate agent to try and sell this place and he has 3 people coming round for viewings on Saturday. May be moving house soon I guess? :shrug:

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Oh dear me posted:

Surely everyone now has assured shorthold tenancies, where they can give you notice any time they please.

No, it's usually either a 6 or 12 month term where neither of you can vanish at the drop of a hat, then after that it goes to month to month where the tenant can give 1 months' notice, the landlord usually 2 but I think still 4 right now because COVID.

I am in that latter case; I'm aware they can't just chuck me out if they find a buyer, but they're fairly clear they'll Section 21 me if they do.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Mister Fantastic posted:

There is the btu or British Thermal Unit (not valid anywhere outside of Britane) :britain:

Though, actually, used outside of Britain, in America for example. Benefits of once having been Top Dog Nation, innit.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Haramstufe Rot posted:

Couple of years ago the Brits vote to keep the immigrants out, and now people itt

You realise these aren't the same people, shithead. We didn't vote for this.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Jedit posted:

It's a lot faster to say "Jeremy Corbyn" than it is to say "I wanted Labour to have left wing policies instead of Blairite pablum and there was a four year window when we might have got it".

Yeah this. I don't want him back in the top seat. I want someone like him though. What's a good shorthand for that?

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

learnincurve posted:

It’s quite a thing where you find yourself going “not even Blair would have”

Wheeling out the northern gobby woman to try and placate the members they have not lost yet is a hugely disingenuous and transparent move when we all know she and Reece Mogg are best mates.

I mean Blair did exactly this with Prescott in the 90s.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

kingturnip posted:

Well, Keith won the vote on leadership candidates needing the backing of 20% of MPs to be formally accepted.
Soooo... no left-wing candidate in the foreseeable future

Hang on wasn't that the rule back when we got Corbyn?

Looks like 'registered supporters' are no longer a thing either, mind you.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

learnincurve posted:

I never not once got to go to a NE Derbyshire Labour meeting because the 6 old twats who organise everything deliberately hold them in some nice little Tory village on the edge of loving nowhere with no bus service to deliberately exclude the tens of thousands of council house labour voters in the area.

Yeah Southeast Cambs was about the same. I mean its a rural constituency but I can't justify 2 hours on the bus each way to go to a meeting. Car havers only p much.

Edit: 1982 - The book A Very British Coup comes out. It reflects the views of a lot of posters itt regarding the potential chances of success for parliamentary socialism.

feedmegin fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Sep 27, 2021

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

His Divine Shadow posted:

I went to a place called the Aland islands in the southwestern finnish archipelago.

Aaland surely if you're not going to do ringed-a :shobon: (it's awe-land not al-and)

I knew the name sounded familiar historically https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%85land_War

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

serious gaylord posted:

You're the man that knows everything, but would the petrol stations even accept deliveries from Army trained people given theres no way they'd have the right insurance or ADR qualifications?

Is it just a massive red herring and they're hoping supplies sort themselves out before they're forced to do anything?

I mean all that takes sorting out is parliament passing a law saying its OK now :shrug:

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Jel Shaker posted:

Is the Army getting involved?


Military tanker drivers are ready to help deliver fuel.
The BBC has been told that 75 military drivers are on standby initially, and another 75 could be added if needed.
They will get training - which could take up to five days - to prepare for the deployment.
Ministers say it is a "sensible, precautionary step" to offer temporary extra driver capacity.

I'm sure that will put a dent in the what 100k shortage?

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

OwlFancier posted:

Look you could supply a whole small town in northern england with that many drivers.

No fuel for Northerners! Only South Croydon *dog meme*

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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

TIL there is such a thing as designer bred woodlice I guess :gonk:

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