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Supreme Allah posted:speaking of poo poo that has nothing to do with the op the most horrifying death on star trek was that in that episode where geordi and roe (row?) get turned into space ghosts (why they didnt fall through the floors who knows) -- but theres this one romulan space ghost and they shove him throw the hull -- that fuckers just hurtling through space forever The gravity plating in the decks still affecting them is the only real explanation other than just "it's a show"
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Darth Brooks posted:Neelix was annoying. O'Brien was just there. I wonder at what point the production crew realized that rando tech no. 4 was an actual good actor and decided to make use of him. Are there any good eps of Voyager? I've seen maybe ten of them and its ehhh
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:Are there any good eps of Voyager? I've seen maybe ten of them and its ehhh The Q eps are good, as well as a few of the Doctor centric and 7 centric episodes (turns out that despite being hired as just a pair of tits, Jeri Ryan is charming as all Hell and can really act when given the opportunity). The finale is also better than the rest of the show.
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:Are there any good eps of Voyager? I've seen maybe ten of them and its ehhh I liked the year of hell two parter actually nice to see some consequences effect the crew, but voyager is more about the vibe of hanging out with starfleet officers than the writing
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There are episodes that are good for Voyager, but actually good? Not really.
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Sep 8, 2021 15:48
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What about the planet of the clowns, huh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7VWLb5IJ7s
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Colonel Cancer posted:What about the planet of the clowns, huh Sunswipe posted:There are episodes that are good for Voyager, but actually good? Not really.
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Sep 8, 2021 16:03
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Voyager suffered from the producers wanting Star Trek to get back to basics after DS9 shook up the formula so much, so all the story potential about a starfleet ship being teleported 10,000 lightyears from the federation was squandered.
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Sep 8, 2021 16:05
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It's basically on the same level as TNG but you don't have to look at a weird incel and an autistic robot go around and do stuff  You just get Neelix instead 
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Sep 8, 2021 16:16
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Yaldabaoth posted:Voyager suffered from the producers wanting Star Trek to get back to basics after DS9 shook up the formula so much, so all the story potential about a starfleet ship being teleported 10,000 lightyears from the federation was squandered. For sure, they did nothing with the Maquis plotting that was meant to be a source of ongoing tension. Just toss them into starfleet uniforms and call it good. DS9 did a much better job with Eddington to salvage a dull character and admit there are real reasons people may want to leave the Federation and why Sisko would consider that such a betrayal. Voyager was weak but not a disaster, never came close to peak TNG or DS9 but could have some strong eps like Year of Hell and they did take a few risks that paid off (I really liked Oblivion). They were in a rough spot as while Janeway, Doctor, Seven, and Tuvok were good and capably acted, having Chakotay, Paris, Torres, and Neelix meant about half the episodes rotated around charisma black holes. But with subsequent stuff like Enterprise, Discovery, and Picard dragging down the median Voyager is now considered solid middle tier trek.
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Sep 8, 2021 16:39
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Lol that Chakotay's actor desperately wanted to quit so he made increasingly absurd demands and they just gave him every one of them.
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Sep 8, 2021 16:44
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I liked that at first Curmudgeon O'Brien doesn't like the annoyingly high-energy Bashir, but they work together and find they have some common nerdy interests and their friendship grows over seasons in a way that felt organic.
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i never watched voyager, does neelix have any equivalent to the cardassian ear necklace o'brien definitely keeps in a trunk next to the bullshit medals they gave him because it was easier than a court martial?
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:Are there any good eps of Voyager? I've seen maybe ten of them and its ehhh  "You became sexually aroused in MY body?"
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And Janeway was written so inconsistently that her actor just played her as insane and mad with power
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Voyager absolutely has good episodes. I just also has a lot of bad ones and less overall cohesion than TNG/DS9. Some good episodes off the top of my head: the time travel one where they go back to the planet before it's civilization had an apocalyptic self-destruction. The one where some of the crew steal technology from another species against Janeway's orders. The Tuvix episode. The one with that time-dilation planet where every minute in space is like a year planet side. The one/few episodes about Grim Wormtongue the murderer. The wrestling episode featuring The Rock. And of course, the episode where they reach warp 10 and transform into horny lizards.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Lol that Chakotay's actor desperately wanted to quit so he made increasingly absurd demands and they just gave him every one of them. Yeah having a Native American bridge officer was a good idea. But as this was 90s UPN the execution was a mess. Casting a Mexican-American actor is not an ok substitute, and regarding the consultant they hired: quote:Jamake Highwater (13 February 1931 – 3 June 2001; age 70), born Jackie Marks, served as a consultant on Native American culture to Star Trek: Voyager. Though he claimed American Indian ancestry, he was in fact of Eastern European Jewish background. Highwater was heavily criticized by actual American Indians for his writings, which typically contained stereotypical and inaccurate depictions of Indian culture. Wish they'd called an audible early and changed the character to be from Mexico. Haven't seen that in trek before, could have been some good stories and Beltran might have made an effort.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Lol that Chakotay's actor desperately wanted to quit so he made increasingly absurd demands and they just gave him every one of them. lol just let him, he was unbelievably bad for a main cast member
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Bad Purchase posted:O'Brien and Keiko had no chemistry and there was no obvious thing they had in common that brought them together, other than their kid(s). It was an extremely relatable TV marriage. larping with bashir in the holodeck is like the best escape from that bitch keiko ever, no wonder he hated going back to that small cabin and she yells at him even though she been pregnant for 9 months but left to bajor 12 months ago gently caress: Dax in both male and female form Marry: Quark because he's a man that can take care of his property Kill: Odo he gets in your face too much
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Do you think it ever went like that one black mirror episode, in the holodeck?
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Sorry, I only watch REAL scifi, Star trek and Stargate
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chaosbreather posted:Neelix is a lovely ripoff of the Outrageous Okona Lol looked up who the hell this is and found out what the script described Teri Hat her's character as quote:The script for "The Outrageous Okona" describes the character as "the very feminine and graciously endowed Transporter Commander B.G. Robinson. Everything she has two of are perfectly matched, coordinated, and move with a wonderful grace that is called 'woman.'" It goes onto say she always displays a "very professional manner." [1] Fu king trash
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Outrageous Okona for the record was very obviously an attempt to introduce Star Trek's own Han Solo, and iirc it basically went down like Poochie Though trying to sneak in pilots for spinoffs is an old Star Trek tradition, Assignment: Earth comes to mind.
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Just watched the episode where geordi gets turned into a manchurian candidate assassin by the romulans and even they know to use a simulated Obrien as target practice lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNu5TNe1OX0
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Of course they would use him. Geordie is pretty much a space incel, and even though he's a beta cuck, O'Brien still getting some trim. If they;d tried that with even simulated Riker, he would have all been like "come at me bro", Riker would have disarmed him, kicked his rear end and then gone and plowed the poo poo out of counsellor Troi in the rear end.
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