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ram dass in hell posted:more angry that she spoke a bad thing about something that personally affects you than you are about the cabal of rapists and their enablers. she said the wrong thing so she can eat poo poo. This is literally what rape culture looks like lol sincerely: I probably was overly harsh in my language, but practically who do you think helps more women dealing with the trauma of sexual assault on a daily basis? Rose or worker orgs primarily composed of women? (most public school teachers are women). I'm not talking about democrats here! I have no problem with what she's said about democrats! It'd just be nice if she didn't lump in one of the few last remaining orgs able to exert any kind of worker power with them 
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Lady Militant posted:sincerely: I probably was overly harsh in my language, but practically who do you think helps more women dealing with the trauma of sexual assault on a daily basis? Rose or worker orgs primarily composed of women? (most public school teachers are women). I'm not talking about democrats here! I have no problem with what she's said about democrats! It'd just be nice if she didn't lump in one of the few last remaining orgs able to exert any kind of worker power with them Agreed it would be nice if she agreed with me on everything and was a perfect revolutionary but I will settle for her being an imperfect person being impossibly brave in the face of insanely demented and evil people with vast means at their disposal used to attempt her total personal and professional ruination and will support her efforts to bring down as many powerful creeps as possible
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ram dass in hell posted:Agreed it would be nice if she agreed with me on everything and was a perfect revolutionary but I will settle for her being an imperfect person being impossibly brave in the face of insanely demented and evil people with vast means at their disposal used to attempt her total personal and professional ruination and will support her efforts to bring down as many powerful creeps as possible It is in fact her specific bravery you reference here that is what confuses me. If she is willing to speak truth to power when it comes to previously untouchable subjects, why does she fall in line with every other wealthy californian when it comes to education?
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Sep 13, 2021 18:37
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what a change https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/1296659798990172160?s=21 https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/1293340899209097216?s=21 https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/1291599338066587649?s=21
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Sep 13, 2021 18:41
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Sep 13, 2021 18:48
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Lady Militant posted:why does she fall in line with every other wealthy californian when it comes to education? because she's rich dumbass material conditions don't suddenly not matter because she has correctly recognized that the democrats are a vile cesspit of rapist monsters. because someone agrees with her there doesn't mean everyone agrees with everything she's ever done or said on any topic, ever. and gently caress if I were here and had the entirety of the democratic party fight on the side of my rapist because they were all buddies who loved to hang out at fancy gala dinners and then take the lolita express to private islands to go rape kids I too would do find any ally I could in order to try and gently caress them up. who gives a poo poo what mcgowan thinks of teachers unions. christ.
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Lady Militant posted:It is in fact her specific bravery you reference here that is what confuses me. If she is willing to speak truth to power when it comes to previously untouchable subjects, why does she fall in line with every other wealthy californian when it comes to education? who gives a poo poo? why is it your responsibility to interrogate and approve every political opinion held by a rape victim pursuing justice
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Sep 13, 2021 18:49
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listen, i'd agree with you w/r/t punishing the monsters who protected your rapist but in july 2018 you told E! entertainment news that you thought m4a was a bad idea so unfortunately you're cancelled you dumb bitch
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Sep 13, 2021 18:51
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To further explain my point: the thread that ties together all the things that Rose has went through is class. the sickos that assaulted her and tried to ruin her life wouldn't have been protected/still protected if they didn't have the wealth they have! ergo making these people less wealthy would help make them less invulnerable, thus my confusion at her not choosing this path of attack
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Sep 13, 2021 19:00
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:listen, i'd agree with you w/r/t punishing the monsters who protected your rapist but in july 2018 you told E! entertainment news that you thought m4a was a bad idea so unfortunately you're cancelled you dumb bitch except i agree with her about the democrats, thats the point here that iv said like 5 times. i don't understand this meme nobody on this forums thinks like this?
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Lady Militant posted:To further explain my point: the thread that ties together all the things that Rose has went through is class. the sickos that assaulted her and tried to ruin her life wouldn't have been protected/still protected if they didn't have the wealth they have! ergo making these people less wealthy would help make them less invulnerable, thus my confusion at her not choosing this path of attack idk, maybe ask her
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Lady Militant posted:except i agree with her about the democrats, thats the point here that iv said like 5 times. i don't understand this meme nobody on this forums thinks like this? Lady Militant posted:she and all the hollywood anti-union freaks can eat poo poo i don't care if she says the direct to dvd villain governor is (obviously) bad rose is right, but she's not the model for anticapitalist organizing or some poo poo and its insane to think she could be. buck wild to come in to the thread and post that a rape survivor should "eat poo poo" because she's a rich white californian actor and somehow not a marxist scholar but instead has bad opinions about unions. wow who could have guessed?!?!?!?!
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Lady Militant posted:except i agree with her about the democrats, thats the point here that iv said like 5 times. i don't understand this meme nobody on this forums thinks like this? you're spending your time and posting energy to nitpick the finer political views of the rape victim, the meme is hyperbole to highlight the absurd participation in rape culture when you join in the chorus of insufferable monsters doing the same thing you are instead of doing literally anything else. you don't have to attack rose for being a rich person. you're choosing to.
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Lady Militant posted:To further explain my point: the thread that ties together all the things that Rose has went through is class. the sickos that assaulted her and tried to ruin her life wouldn't have been protected/still protected if they didn't have the wealth they have! ergo making these people less wealthy would help make them less invulnerable, thus my confusion at her not choosing this path of attack Everyone agrees that she'd have different opinions if her class wasn't rich. She has good opinions for someone who's class is that high, but obviously not perfect. Everyone is rallying in support for her because she's a rape victim going after her accusers and their collaborators - not because she's against the teachers union of California.
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Rose is still redeemable politically imo https://twitter.com/rosemcgowan/status/1437269854940135429 Not to justify the endorsement but I can see why she may have felt that word would have gotten out more about Newsom's gross connections as a result Also she's a real person and not fake like every other Hollywood dipshit so her saga is interesting much like glenn
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Lady Militant posted:To further explain my point: the thread that ties together all the things that Rose has went through is class. the sickos that assaulted her and tried to ruin her life wouldn't have been protected/still protected if they didn't have the wealth they have! ergo making these people less wealthy would help make them less invulnerable, thus my confusion at her not choosing this path of attack I scream and shout gently caress YOU! to every rape victim in the imperial core for this reason, too. Yes, they did get raped, but they are complicit in thousands of rapes and even murders in the Southern periphery, so they only deserve my scorn.
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Yossarian-22 posted:Rose is still redeemable politically imo obviously the class criticism is fundamentally correct, and the reason she's so politically weird is because she's understands a truth that liberalism can't digest. I mean maybe she can eventually discover and understand a class analysis of her predicament but as she's a rich actress I'm not going to bet on it. unfortunately I think she'll just end up as one of those post-hippy cali cranks with contradictory political views. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, though
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Eh, if the topic is How To Stop This Impending Nuclear Meltdown, I probably wouldn't give much time to any opinions she puts forth, but I'm also not going to completely dismiss her for not being a nuclear physicist when the topic is actually Gavin Newsome: Threat or Menace, one where she does have some tragically relevant experience! Like, fine, she's wrong about teachers' unions. Hell, she's even wrong about Larry Elder being a desirable political candidate through any lens whatsoever. But I certainly can't blame her for wanting the family that was complicit in her abuse destroyed by whatever means, and I see neither any reason nor any opportunity to otherwise solicit her for political advice. Anyway, I don't live in California so my opinion on the whole thing is worth substantially less than hers regardless.
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Sep 13, 2021 19:31
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a Loving Dog posted:lol at "moron achievement unlocked" go rose
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class traitors are real and should be encouraged and empowered to further betray their class interests as much as possible but eeehhhh don't put too much faith in them, feet of clay and all that
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smarxist posted:class traitors are real and should be encouraged and empowered to further betray their class interests as much as possible but eeehhhh don't put too much faith in them, feet of clay and all that This is also true of Glenn, Hasan, etc. and other "left" journos and figures who make lots of money
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PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:I scream and shout gently caress YOU! to every rape victim in the imperial core for this reason, too. Yes, they did get raped, but they are complicit in thousands of rapes and even murders in the Southern periphery, so they only deserve my scorn. that seems like it'd be a very mean thing to do, and i am not doing that ram dass in hell posted:you're spending your time and posting energy to nitpick the finer political views of the rape victim, the meme is hyperbole to highlight the absurd participation in rape culture when you join in the chorus of insufferable monsters doing the same thing you are instead of doing literally anything else. you don't have to attack rose for being a rich person. you're choosing to. this conversation started because she trashed teachers unions introducing a candidate at a political event. specifically noting that fighting against teachers unions was a positive thing about the candidate. do you think that's like the same thing has combing over all of her tweets trying to cancel her or w/e?
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At least she just said an off-hand dumb thing. If she starts whining periodically about teacher's unions then yeah maybe I'd be more mad
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Yossarian-22 posted:At least she just said an off-hand dumb thing. If she starts whining periodically about teacher's unions then yeah maybe I'd be more mad That is unfortunately my worry, because the more she gets into electoral politics the more she'll be surrounded with who are a lot more gung-ho about crushing organized labor than they are actually seeing any sort of justice for victims of sexual assault/rape. A concern which I'm honestly surprised has people here on my home forum so angry, like, isn't half the succ zone thread about dems campaigning on feminist stances then being just as lovely as usual?
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ram dass in hell posted:you're spending your time and posting energy to nitpick the finer political views of the rape victim, the meme is hyperbole to highlight the absurd participation in rape culture when you join in the chorus of insufferable monsters doing the same thing you are instead of doing literally anything else. you don't have to attack rose for being a rich person. you're choosing to. also isn't it just a catch 22 because um she is a high profile person as a result and is bringing attention to the issue that underprivileged people are not able to, so that puts her in a unique position for better and worse because it's not an either/or
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Lady Militant posted:That is unfortunately my worry, because the more she gets into electoral politics the more she'll be surrounded with who are a lot more gung-ho about crushing organized labor than they are actually seeing any sort of justice for victims of sexual assault/rape. A concern which I'm honestly surprised has people here on my home forum so angry, like, isn't half the succ zone thread about dems campaigning on feminist stances then being just as lovely as usual? ya it rules how the solution to a party grinding out all its ideals in service to capital is to go to the other party and have all your ideals ground out in service to capital
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StashAugustine posted:ya it rules how the solution to a party grinding out all its ideals in service to capital is to go to the other party and have all your ideals ground out in service to capital hey now a bunch of actors joined the cpusa and got blacklisted forever from the acting industry instead, theres that option to
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A weapon to surpass Kirsten Synema
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:honestly I respect her levels of spite
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:If you're using a rape victims trauma as a cudgel against the democrats because you're an angry little bitch instead of advancing an actual theory of power to affect positive change, you should save us all some time and just murder suicide an elite or something. or honestly just the suicide part would be fine. 
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Lib and let die posted:A weapon to surpass Kirsten Synema *A 4 star general, slamming his fist on the desk of the situation room*: WE HAVE A MANIC PIXIE DREAM GIRL DEFICIT! *Another general, standing to the side of room with a knowing grin*: ... Not any more, sir ...
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:why don't you go suck another one of Glenn's cumloads out of a homeless brazillan teens rear end, you fat human being ayayayayyyyyy
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