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I was thinking earlier about how much the public opinion on Michael Jackson's child abuse allegations have shifted since the release of Finding Neverland - while I haven't personally seen the documentary, it's my understanding that the documentary has firmly changed a lot of people's idea on Micheal's actions. This also aligns with a change for the better in public discourse around victims of abuse - I distinctly remember that the accepted consesus since the 90s was that the victim's parents were simply looking for a large settlement. What's also interesting to note is that belief in Michael Jackson's innocence seems to be firmly along racial lines in the US, very similar to the OJ Simpson trial that gripped the 90s. Do you think Michael Jackson molested those children?
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Sep 6, 2021 10:06
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Sep 6, 2021 10:10
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every loving celebrity is a loving pedophile, op
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Sep 6, 2021 10:12
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hey wizard master, i love your work, huge fan :3
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Sep 6, 2021 10:12
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VileLL posted:every loving celebrity is a loving pedophile, op
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Sep 6, 2021 10:14
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when i first head the evan chandler extortion tape i believed the 'he just didn't have a childhood and is weird' narrative but after watching 'leaving neverland' i can't believe more dads with kids he buggered didn't try to extort him what do you guys think??
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Sep 6, 2021 10:26
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VileLL posted:every loving celebrity is a loving pedophile, op keanu reeves is innocent
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Sep 6, 2021 10:27
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What if he was born white and did blackface all through his childhood, but then he ran out of makeup in the early 90s, and then he was just like gently caress it ima get plastic surgery to look like an elderly Asian woman and reinvent myself? 
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Sep 6, 2021 10:34
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Guilty, hee hee
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Sep 6, 2021 10:48
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAsn_1EKHYQ finding neverland is quite good but seems pretty squarely aimed at rehabilitating mj's public image after the whole martin bashir poo poo
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Sep 6, 2021 10:50
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Pedo. But old style pedo-ing, before it got such a bad name
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Sep 6, 2021 11:03
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I never saw the new documentary so maybe some new irrefutable evidence came to light that I don't know about. But I always thought he was innocent, but extremely immature and childish with zero self awareness. If he had been born 30 years later he would have fallen into the otherkin community hard.
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Sep 6, 2021 13:18
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His kin being a dead Asian lady?
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Sep 6, 2021 13:26
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Michael Jackson? The guy who had little boys brought to his home so he could share his bed with them? Nah, I'm sure nothing untoward happened there at all.
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Sep 6, 2021 13:28
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Definitely a zombie
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Sep 6, 2021 13:40
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VileLL posted:every loving BRITISH celebrity is a loving pedophile, op Fixed it for you to make it true. It’s true. I checked.
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Sep 6, 2021 13:52
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He's as innocent as OJ and Epstein, in fact they are probably hanging out right now
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Sep 6, 2021 13:54
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We have to keep in mind that he wrote many hit songs: Billy Jean, Beat it, Thriller.
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Sep 6, 2021 14:00
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I used to be on the fence, but after seeing Leaving Neverland, oh yea, he diddled them kids.
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Sep 6, 2021 14:10
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The only thing he's guilty of is having the voice of an angel, and molesting children.
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Sep 6, 2021 14:10
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Slugworth posted:The only thing he's guilty of is having the voice of an angel, and molesting children. Guiltiest laugh I've had in a while, drat you.
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Sep 6, 2021 14:11
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The classic evidence on the side of him molesting children was that kids were able to give a detailed description of his penis (as a consequence of his skin-lightening procedures, it was striped like a barber pole). Based on this, I leaned toward him being guilty. Then I learned that this was public information due to a previous legal deposition, so the kids who said it might have been coached.
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Sep 6, 2021 14:20
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I bet he raped everything he could get his hands on. Adults, peoples pets, birdhouses, car mufflers, rubbing his hard, spermy penis on Bundt cakes, lottery scratchoffs, fuckin goddamn bowls of lobster bisque, squeezing couch cushions together. It was all about how his oppressive father didn’t let him rape the poo poo he wanted to while he was in the Jackson 5. He has all this pent up rape aggression from a squandered childhood. He always wanted to be an Asian woman, but like, with a dick, but his piece of poo poo dad wouldn’t let him. 
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Sep 6, 2021 14:25
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William Bear posted:Then I learned that this was public information due to a previous legal deposition Extremely normal, really, who hasn't?
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Sep 6, 2021 14:27
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Innocent but still was loving weirdo around kids, shouldn't have been near them.,
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Sep 6, 2021 14:29
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I heard that the reason he bought the rights to all the Beatles songs is because he wanted to remake the song "Here comes the sun" and hange it to "Here comes your son". If he'd gotten in trouble for that he probably would have teamed up with Elton John, and remade one of Elton John's songs as a public service announcement. "Don't let the sun go down on me" would have become "Don't let your son go down on me". I heard that his favorite song was that one by Mott The Hoople, you know the one I mean. It was called All The Young Dudes. Whenever he heard the song he'd change the lyrics a bit though. His version of the chorus went like this: All you young dudes Lets all get nude We'll drink Jesus Juice Then I will splooge
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Sep 6, 2021 14:34
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William Bear posted:(as a consequence of his skin-lightening procedures, it was striped like a barber pole). For real? Cause lmao if so.
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Sep 6, 2021 14:39
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frankly OP he himself claimed to not only be 'bad' but a 'smooth criminal' to boot. case closed
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Sep 6, 2021 14:39
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Absolutely guilty and Leaving Neverland sealed the deal.
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Sep 6, 2021 14:40
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I’m still on the fence about it because I haven’t seen Leaving Neverland, and there have been at least two other documentaries made to contradict and disprove Leaving Neverland that seem just as credible as LN. My own belief is that he was oblivious to his weirdo childlike personality around hosting children at a giant ranch and how it was viewed by the press, fans, and general population, but never did anything that was inappropriate or diddly. He really shouldn’t have been around children, though. If Leaving Neverland seals the deal should I see it, so be it. Then he’s guilty as gently caress. Slugworth posted:The only thing he's guilty of is having the voice of an angel, and molesting children.  This made me laugh.
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Sep 6, 2021 14:42
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Wizard Michael
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Sep 6, 2021 14:42
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Ask the mods OP, they knew.
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Sep 6, 2021 14:45
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I misremembered the striped penis details. https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/03/10-undeniable-facts-about-the-michael-jackson-sexual-abuse-allegations His penis and butt were striped because of vitiligo, and kids were able to accurately draw these marks. However, kids couldn't agree on if Jackson was circumcized. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8330579/michael-jackson-penis-covered-marks-described-jordan-chandler/
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Sep 6, 2021 14:45
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Kat Williams established that MJ was a pedophile using pure logic 15 years ago.
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Sep 6, 2021 14:50
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Guilty… of stealing my heart.
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Sep 6, 2021 14:50
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nonce
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Sep 6, 2021 14:52
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MJ was definitely doing weird stuff with those kids but I doubt he actually raped them. Probably more like nudity, cuddling, touching which is obviously still extremely hosed up.
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Sep 6, 2021 14:57
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Flayer posted:MJ was definitely doing weird stuff with those kids but I doubt he actually raped them. Probably more like nudity, cuddling, touching which is obviously still extremely hosed up. LN goes into the details... they're extremely hosed up indeed.
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Sep 6, 2021 14:58
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VileLL posted:every loving celebrity is a loving pedophile, op
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Sep 6, 2021 14:59
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Oh yeah he did that poo poo.
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