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I’m pretty sure Wizard Master is Macaulay Culkin.
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Sep 7, 2021 00:16
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Michael Jackson is guilty af. Also dead af.
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Sep 7, 2021 00:40
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I knew he was guilty as gently caress when the Martin Bashir documentary aired and he sat on a couch with that one kid, holding hands, with the kid resting his head on his shoulder, and the kid claimed that Michael Jackson cured his cancer. The Finding Neverland doc was just more and more irrefutable proof that his whole deal was normalizing his relationships with children so that he could get away with poo poo that no one else could. He never molested the celebrity children, because they were part of his whole thing of making it normal that he, a grown man, hung out with children, so that he could get these other, poorer/starfucker parents to leave their children alone with him. Also, in the Bashir doc, when confronted about his inappropriateness with children (sleep overs, sleeping in the same bed), he went straight to, "why is it wrong to love a child?" which is NAMBLA poo poo. Like, the dude read the literature and was steeped in pedo talking points.
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Sep 7, 2021 01:40
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https://youtu.be/vyESG2mr1nU
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Sep 7, 2021 01:46
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imagine michael jackson's dick it's hard to picture
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Sep 7, 2021 01:48
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Think it's a little rotten now
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Sep 7, 2021 01:53
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Colonel Cancer posted:Think it's a little rotten now i mean at the time he was molesting children
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Sep 7, 2021 01:54
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WILDTURKEY101 posted:i mean at the time he was molesting children 
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Sep 7, 2021 02:04
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Lowen SoDium posted:Cory Feldman always said MJ never hosed him. And saying Hollywood is full of pedos is pretty much Cory Feldman's whole thing. The idea is that he intentionally didn't rape the famous kids so he could point to them and say "see, they said I never touched them!!!"
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Sep 7, 2021 02:06
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I laughted way harder than I should have at this.
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Sep 7, 2021 02:15
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Martin Bashir seemed like kind of a poo poo to me also, but Michael was pretty darn guilty IMO.
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Sep 7, 2021 02:22
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Blooster posted:The idea is that he intentionally didn't rape the famous kids so he could point to them and say "see, they said I never touched them!!!" Anyways it would have been a lot harder to keep the lid on that sort of thing. The famous kids had money for lawyers and (already being famous) names that would grab headlines. Much easier to target poor kids with parents desperately trying to shove them into stardom.
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Sep 7, 2021 02:23
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Jackson and Cosby are obviously guilty, I just don't get why they're the two big names in a huge industry of entertainers they're the minority of. I guess uh, louis ck is a white dude name that comes to mind, the guy that played the politician in house of cards too. Doesn't really seem like the same level of media oomph though.
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Sep 7, 2021 02:31
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgYP73tHs-U
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Sep 7, 2021 02:34
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ArbitraryC posted:Jackson and Cosby are obviously guilty, I just don't get why they're the two big names in a huge industry of entertainers they're the minority of. I guess uh, louis ck is a white dude name that comes to mind, the guy that played the politician in house of cards too. Doesn't really seem like the same level of media oomph though. He might not be a pedophile (or maybe he is, who the gently caress knows?) But what about Harvey Weinstein?
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Sep 7, 2021 02:40
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I was a little kid when the whole thing went down and have this clear memory of sitting on the floor in front of the tv bedazzling a cat onto the back of my jean jacket and whatever show was on aired MJ's account of dealing with the authorities over the allegations, just looking straight into the camera talking about being forced to have his penis photographed and I was like 
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Sep 7, 2021 02:42
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I think MJ was probably abused as a kid and just continued the cycle. So like, he did it, he's guilty, should have had the book thrown at him, but he was also probably a victim. You meet the pedo, then you become the pedo.
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Sep 7, 2021 02:55
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doctorfrog posted:Martin Bashir seemed like kind of a poo poo to me also, but Michael was pretty darn guilty IMO. Bashir is absolutely poo poo, but Michael Jackson put it all out there without Bashir tricking him or setting him up or anything. I think part of Michael Jackson wanted to “come out” and be some kind of pedo rights leader. 
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Sep 7, 2021 03:31
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I think he was just a strange dude that wanted to be a child. Had sleepovers and slept in the same bed as the kids and everything. It's easy to say it must have been pedophilia but who knows. You're brain can break in a lot more ways than that.
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Sep 7, 2021 03:35
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Flubby posted:I think he was just a strange dude that wanted to be a child. Had sleepovers and slept in the same bed as the kids and everything. It's easy to say it must have been pedophilia but who knows. You're brain can break in a lot more ways than that. All of the children he molested probably know
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Sep 7, 2021 03:38
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Flubby posted:I think he was just a strange dude that wanted to be a child. Had sleepovers and slept in the same bed as the kids and everything. It's easy to say it must have been pedophilia but who knows. You're brain can break in a lot more ways than that. The Finding Neverland doc includes first-hand accounts from victims who he abused as children, and makes a strong case that he not only had sexual contact with children, but he wanted relationships with those children. He got crushes on boys, he obsessed over certain ones. The dude was weird because he was a pedophile in plain sight, and no one at the time seemed to be able to properly process it.
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Sep 7, 2021 03:48
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what the judge say tho
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Sep 7, 2021 03:56
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Don't the guys from that doc have pretty questionable histories of their allegations, often tying back to their parents wanting money? Always thought he was just a weird dude.
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Sep 7, 2021 04:07
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kdrudy posted:Don't the guys from that doc have pretty questionable histories of their allegations, often tying back to their parents wanting money? One of them does, but the other is pretty unimpeachable, and speaks about how MJ's lawyers literally bribed him to testify that he wasn't guilty by paying off his parent's mortgage. Its a very convincing documentary and yea he's guilty. (And also how his parents were gross starfuckers who pushed him to spend more time with Michael Jackson to get more money out of him).
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Sep 7, 2021 04:13
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kdrudy posted:Don't the guys from that doc have pretty questionable histories of their allegations, often tying back to their parents wanting money? One dude's parents got a house from MJ during their relationship, but before he told anyone he'd been sexually abused. The other was a hot-poo poo choreographer for Brittney Spears and N Sync back when they were big. I dunno that money was the motivating factor in them coming forward. Even if you take out their direct allegations, there's a lot of hosed up poo poo from that time period, including the aforementioned faxes sent to the Australian kid. Michael Jackson basically bought the kid a fax machine so he could spam him with love notes all loving day. In Australia. In the late 80s, when long distances calls were expensive as gently caress, let alone international calls.
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Sep 7, 2021 04:17
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Rod Hoofhearted posted:One dude's parents got a house from MJ during their relationship, but before he told anyone he'd been sexually abused. The parents also belong in jail. They straight up let their children live with Michael Jackson.
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Sep 7, 2021 04:19
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kdrudy posted:Don't the guys from that doc have pretty questionable histories of their allegations, often tying back to their parents wanting money? Lol, guess the rich are unassailable so long as anyone they hurt is poor
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Sep 7, 2021 04:20
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Shinjobi posted:I think MJ was probably abused as a kid and just continued the cycle.
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Sep 7, 2021 04:35
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Cubone posted:this is colloquially known as "vampire syndrome", it's not statistically true, and, there are adult survivors of childhood sexual abuse among you, and you should really consider that this is an insanely lovely thing to say to them My bad. I genuinely thought it was something that happened more often than that.
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Sep 7, 2021 05:04
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I'm really baffled by people that think he's innocent, is there another example of a man that only wanted to hang out with young boys (and didn't abuse them)?
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Sep 7, 2021 05:19
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sdasdas posted:I'm really baffled by people that think he's innocent, is there another example of a man that only wanted to hang out with young boys (and didn't abuse them)? Probably a combination of people not wanting to believe it because he was so famous and his PR team pushing some kind of peter pan syndrome narrative.
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Sep 7, 2021 06:08
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Jew me, sue me, everybody do me/ Kick me, kike me, don't you black or white me
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Sep 7, 2021 07:49
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What's the difference between Michael Jackson and a Tesco carrier bag? One is made of plastic and you carry your shopping in and the other one is dead!
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Sep 7, 2021 15:38
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i was going to ask if the bag was a homosexual pedophile before i guessed
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Sep 7, 2021 15:50
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Michael Jackson's dead body
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Sep 7, 2021 15:54
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sdasdas posted:I'm really baffled by people that think he's innocent, is there another example of a man that only wanted to hang out with young boys (and didn't abuse them)? I'm gonna say again that people who say "oh he didn't rape them, he just snuggled them naked" are hosed in the head
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Sep 7, 2021 15:57
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Who What Now posted:I'm gonna say again that people who say "oh he didn't rape them, he just snuggled them naked" are hosed in the head
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Sep 7, 2021 16:30
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I'd bet at least one of Macaulay Culkin or Corey Feldman got diddled by MJ. They are just too committed to saying he didn't do anything to change their story.
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Sep 7, 2021 17:20
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Schweinhund posted:I'd bet at least one of Macaulay Culkin or Corey Feldman got diddled by MJ. They are just too committed to saying he didn't do anything to change their story. Nah. It makes sense why he wanted to publicly be seen with them, but kept his hands off them. He wanted access to and control over the boys he did assault. It wasn’t just about sex for him, it was about pantomiming a romantic relationship. The celebrity boys had to travel and work and make movies and poo poo. He just wanted to be seen hanging out with them to convince other adults that it was cool that he wanted to hang out with their sons.
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Sep 7, 2021 17:30
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Guilty, but given the US justice system is very literally and openly for sale, the outcome was extremely predicable.
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Sep 8, 2021 03:12
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