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This is the better TV musical I’ve heard in recent weeks, so they’re fine to my ears. Strange New Worlds did a musical ep recently and I don’t think any of the songs are very good.
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Adrianics posted:I was actually pretty surprised to see that Pasek and Paul had a hand in writing that, they're the songwriters behind Greatest Showman, Dear Evan Hansen and "Another Day of Sun" from La La Land most famously. Among musical theatre aficionados they're kind of considered to be hacks, writing very pop-friendly arena-esque songs with the chorus chanting "woah" over the top constantly. They are credited on both songs. Maybe they were hired by the show to write the songs and then they brought in other people to make the songs better.
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This show has become incredibly self-indulgent and I don't mean that as a complaint, I loving love every second of it, and Mabel, Charles and Oliver bursting into the courtroom in wedding dress and tuxedos absolutely killed me 
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Sep 26, 2023 06:43
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Show's still a lot of fun but I swear it better not be Mabel's new boytoy because I am tired of murder mysteries where the killer was the helpful person who wormed their way into the investigation
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Sep 26, 2023 07:56
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Yeah, the regular tailoring habits and the whole thing with the biscuits (Ben worrying about his weight) continues to lead me towards the secret twins theory. Well, that and the covered up tox report -- how else would Dickie have done this!? -- the two deaths, the bruise on his face, all the thematic stuff this season with three kids. It might also explain where the extra hankie came from. The shredder was shredding Dickie's bullet points, which might contain this info. (Or, at least, I don't think we're fully done with the shredder given that Jonathan is still piecing things together at the end of the episode.) Killers are the mother/son producing duo. He was first poisoned with the biscuits, thanks mum, and then the son pushed him down the lift shaft trying to cover for her. Or vice versa? Or maybe some sort of fratricide thing, I dunno. This is where my theory gets vague. That and how Dickie would have disposed of the spare body. Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Sep 26, 2023 |
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Sep 26, 2023 10:21
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You realize the new episode was out when you posted, right?
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Sep 26, 2023 19:08
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I haven't seen new episode yet but I want to restate I think there's no killer or conventional murderer now just to maximize chance of egg on face later.
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Sep 26, 2023 19:11
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Khanstant posted:I haven't seen new episode yet but I want to restate I think there's no killer or conventional murderer now just to maximize chance of egg on face later. I think one of the seasons of Trial & Error did that. It was pretty good.
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Sep 26, 2023 19:19
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oh jay posted:I think one of the seasons of Trial & Error did that. It was pretty good. Wasn’t it a bird or something that scared her and caused her to fall? John Lithgow should be in the 4th season of OMITB.
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Sep 27, 2023 02:04
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Lmfao @ Paul Rudd’s orgasmic enjoyment of that cookie.
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Sep 27, 2023 02:19
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Egg on my face but lol everyone called the cookie talk almost immediately itt
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Sep 27, 2023 02:37
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Fathers of the bride? That's cute 
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Sep 27, 2023 08:57
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Was the egg in this episode's intro referring to how they appeared in the retelling of the interviews?
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Khanstant posted:I haven't seen new episode yet but I want to restate I think there's no killer or conventional murderer now just to maximize chance of egg on face later. The show is pushing the producer mom pretty hard. It feels like a bit of a red herring. IIRC season 1 did introduce the killer at the end of the penultimate episode, so there is precedent. But season 2 introduced a fakeout killer at the end of the penultimate episode. So "no actual murderer" would be a good twist if they want to continue mixing things up. My Dickie theory has gotten torn up pretty badly by this episode but I am going to make one prediction: producer mom did drug Ben's cookie, but not with rat poison and not with the intent of murdering him. She just wanted to make him too sick to finish the performance, but it hit him harder than expected due to his fasting / shady grey market drug regimen.
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The main problem for me with the cookie thing is I think rat poison would be like, really obvious to sprinkle on something even in a cookie monster situation of him wolfing it down without tasting it? That said, maybe that poo poo is delicious. Apparently antifreeze is too and plenty of other deadly chemicals only taste or smell bad because of additives we add to reduce risk of people and animals consuming it. Okay I looked it up and apparently rat poison can be sweet and look like candy so I guess it's actually fair game here.
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the holy poopacy posted:My Dickie theory has gotten torn up pretty badly by this episode but I am going to make one prediction: producer mom did drug Ben's cookie, but not with rat poison and not with the intent of murdering him. She just wanted to make him too sick to finish the performance, but it hit him harder than expected due to his fasting / shady grey market drug regimen. The mum poisoned it with morphine, not rat poison because she's very ill. She's trying to hand over her legacy to her son, she came out of the bathroom having just vomited, and Dickie said he hid the tox results because there was stuff on it Ben wouldn't want public, which I'm guessing is morphine, and Dickie thought he'd fallen off the ladder.
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Sep 29, 2023 10:04
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No poison. Just a diabetic coma.
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Sep 29, 2023 15:28
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The amount of rat poison you can sprinkle on a cookie isn't remotely enough to kill an adult human, so it wouldn't make much difference either way. If she was trying to kill him that way, she was doing a really poor job of it.
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Sep 29, 2023 15:31
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SimonChris posted:The amount of rat poison you can sprinkle on a cookie isn't remotely enough to kill an adult human, so it wouldn't make much difference either way. 
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Sep 29, 2023 16:05
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I don't think there was any rat poison in the cookie. Ben fainted because he was having a panic attack and had been fasting. I think Ben simply fell into an empty elevator shaft because it was shown to be malfunctioning earlier in the first episode. The murderer is no one. Everything is just a series of unfortunate events.
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Sep 30, 2023 15:59
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I do hope that the detective is the one to do the final reveal, after the 3 give an impassioned case that turns out to be wrong. Guess that would be kind of a downer way to end things though.
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I've loved this season but I've gotta say that the final episode felt a little weak. Liked where it ended with the teaser for next season, poor Sazz! and everything made sense but it felt kinda anemic as a finale, and some of the character beats from throughout the season felt somewhat unresolved, particularly around Mabel. But also they keep making this show and I'll keep watching, love the characters and the setting and the building and how much it loves being New York.
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Oct 3, 2023 10:13
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Agreed, there was no resolution to the Mabel and Cinda interaction, even though she worked again with the guys. There was no real resolution to her not living at the Astoria either.
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Oct 3, 2023 12:22
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cinda did it imo
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Oct 3, 2023 15:30
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Nah, it was her twin.
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Oct 3, 2023 15:36
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her podcasting stunt double, scott bakula
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This show is a bit predictable, I was able to guess both twists, and I'm an idiot. But this show is so good. Can't wait for the next season.
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I was quick to catch "Ben's talking to a cookie" but took until the finale to realize that it was the Producers. Mel Brooks and Broderick's cameos!
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I can't be upset at how many twists I called, but I do wish we had seen more of the musical. Those sparkly sea creature costumes were fantastic.
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The meat of the episode was pretty by the numbers as far as how the plot, twists, and red herrings developed. Probably an over-correction from how cartoonishly convoluted S2's denouement was. But I was all in for the final scene. I never though I could be so happy from seeing Jane Lynch loving die.
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oh jay posted:The meat of the episode was pretty by the numbers as far as how the plot, twists, and red herrings developed. Probably an over-correction from how cartoonishly convoluted S2's denouement was. I did enjoy how heavily they workshopped the setup for the confrontation only to get one line in and get interrupted with,"Yeah I did it.  "
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oh jay posted:The meat of the episode was pretty by the numbers as far as how the plot, twists, and red herrings developed. Probably an over-correction from how cartoonishly convoluted S2's denouement was. Haha I felt like she was almost smiling, like, bizarrely amused she gets to be assassinated as Charles. Plus, even though someone itt already cast doubt on my nisconception this was the final season, nice to see it's renewed for a fourth after the typical cliffhanger ending. Wonder if there will be a time jump too. The finale overall was fun, I kind of just want to see and hear the full musical. I need to know which of the pickwhick triplets did it, I don't buy that Meryl Streep would do it. I think we had a few theories that mightve been more fun for them to pull off, but this route does make sense with the rest of the season. I should probably rewatch it tomorrow, I think I also missed whats gonna happen with the show with its main financiers going to jail.
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Eh, after all the mental predictions such as twins and no murder just accident, this felt a little deflated. The reveal felt kind of obvious and surface-level, although as noted I did like how the three had a big denouement planned that was interrupted. The joke with Oliver taking over the lead role was fantastic, as was the ending. It felt rote but also completely in line with the tone of the series that the musical ended up being a faint success.
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I am super curious now that I think of it: how next season will work. If she's really dead (first time they've killed a beloved character who has been around for em all so far, so kinda doubting they'll pull that trick again) then there's not much time for them to set up shenanigans? Maybe next season will partially take place during this one, which makes me wonder if there's set up I totally missed already laid.
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Oct 4, 2023 10:26
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My biggest question is who would want to kill Charles? He was clearly the intended target.
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Adrianics posted:My biggest question is who would want to kill Charles? He was clearly the intended target. Obviously it is Scott Bakula
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Adrianics posted:My biggest question is who would want to kill Charles? He was clearly the intended target. She mentioned when she came to the party that she wanted a moment with him to discuss "something sensitive" which may end up being linked to the shooting (or just as equally be a red herring!), and it's possible she was actually the intended target and they're going to spend the first part of the season chasing suspects with a vendetta against Charles, naturally assuming that she was just mistaken for him in the dark in his apartment.
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Adrianics posted:My biggest question is who would want to kill Charles? He was clearly the intended target. broderick
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lumpentroll posted:broderick The world has not done enough to deserve this plot, tbh
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This year's murder was definitely more simple and easy to guess, but I'd take something simple that makes sense with the clues we are given, over trying to outsmart the audience and throw some crazy twist in the finale just to catch people off guard. I'm curious about what direction things will go next season. It seemed like they were preparing for a California season right before the final scene, which would be a nice way to freshen things up, but now maybe not.
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