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Worth noting that a coronavirus is a type of virus, or rather a family of types of virus. It describes the structure and is one of the least useful ways to refer to SARS-COV-2/COVID-19. vvvv yeah i mean in the OP I don't mean police the people in the thread about it, i call it that too(though mostly "covid") Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Sep 13, 2021 |
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buglord posted:Jesus H man. I had a buddy of mine my age (29) get infected and he almost died at the hospital. I'm a little scared to ask if he was vaccinated or not, but on top of that he was a supremely heavy drinker and got cirrhosis (though I haven't verified if covid can cause that or if it was only from drinking). He had a 2 week stay and lost 20 lbs from infection to release. Still on oxygen occasionally now, and his feet aren't working for some reason and hes having to retrain the muscle or something. We don't talk super often because hes kind of a stubborn rear end any anything and everything, but he really got flattened by this. You need to figure out the reason why he's resistant/denier/skeptical/stupid. It's not coming from a rational place, so reasoning is unlikely to convince him.
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Sep 14, 2021 00:26
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buglord posted:despite being a socailist bernie bro he does follow a lot of natural medicine spiritual healing aesthetic instagram pages. I get the appeal of thinking you're a child of nature pure from the corruption of pharmaceutical influence but like he also smokes weed and eat spicy chicken nuggets from McDonalds (the latter of which I'd personally consider gods medicine but thats besides the point). Maybe its just fear of making the wrong choice, I know some people are likely to avoid making a choice entirely when they feel making a choice carries risk, even if inaction is a choice. He's anti-science with regards to medicine. "Natural medicine" is generally the same molecules but less tightly controlled and dosed. Like sure chewing willow bark might help with pain relief so does aspirin. You're not going to science him out of that because his current opinion is based on fear of things he doesn't understand IMO. Professor Beetus posted:This is the shittiest rollercoaster. An informed opinion I saw the other day has this at another 1-3 years in realistic terms, figuring in for America being just The Worst.
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Sep 14, 2021 01:34
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Vasukhani posted:Why is the process for children so much longer? It's not. A decision was made to start the process later for children, because "kids don't get or spread covid" This may have been a bad move.
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Sep 14, 2021 23:29
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So one of the big takeaways from the CA recall is that people are super OK with mask and vaccine mandates and want more strict covid controls. CLOSE 'ER UP
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Sep 15, 2021 17:32
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Professor Beetus posted:I'm not sure the recall results are that clear, given the particular Republican candidate looking to win in the recall. It's probably a good sign, but I'd be curious to see what the results would look like if it was explicitly a measure to continue with mandates and restrictions. I'm probably overstating it somewhat, but https://twitter.com/kabir_here/status/1437919445083643907
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Sep 15, 2021 17:42
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Mellow Seas posted:It’s not a matter of “not caring,” VS, it’s a matter of Biden not having dictatorial powers to make people comply with government directives. Biden has been emphatic as hell about everyone getting the vaccine, no equivocation or bad CDC guidance there, and a hundred million people still refuse. There's a lot of stuff a sitting president can do between "talking about it sometimes" and "dictator" The fact that he leans closely at the former and that's about it indicates he doesn't care, or doesn't care much due to his position of privilege. This thread has gone over and over things he could do that's short of "dictator".
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Sep 15, 2021 18:45
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It doesn't really matter because kids aren't even getting 1' of space in most classrooms. They're hoping that covid moves in straight lines and only when students are at desks so the plastic barriers can stop it.
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Sep 15, 2021 19:09
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That sounds like viral gastroenteritis not influenza.
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Sep 15, 2021 22:33
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Corporates America update: Hybrid model. We are going to require vaccines at my medium sized (over 1000 employees) business for in-office work, but: 1) We allow medical and humanitarian exemptions 2) No proof required, it's via attestation only. If you think this raises a lot of questions....congratulations, you must have been at our office meeting. And for those wondering how much federal state and local rules matter, we operate in 30+ countries and the official corporate line is that we go by whatever the public health rules are where we are. Which means that countries with a fraction of the US infection rate have closed offices but the US is "open 'er up"
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Sep 16, 2021 17:24
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Levitate posted:Yeah, it differs from person to person obviously but even the idea of "well the government should just pay everyone enough to stay home and take care of kids!" is poorly thought out and would put a huge hardship on parents. For one, lots of people can't just pause their jobs, or don't WANT to pause their jobs. Unless the government could literally tell every business and institution in the country to halt everything their doing and not let any of their workers work, then you end up disadvantaging people who have to stop working to care for their kids. Even if there's some law that their jobs have to be waiting for them, how many people do you think are gonna get hosed over when they go back to their job and have lost responsibility and promotion possibilities (this is not new at all, it happens to women all the time when they have kids!) Nobody said it was easy, but the government could very much do this and other governments have done this. quote:There really aren't any great or easy solutions to the kids and school problem...there are 100% things that could have been done better, maybe there could have been more pressure to get vaccination trials started sooner, push back school openings, more effort to make classrooms safer, less emphasis on "well kids are a low risk group so let's not worry about it too hard" which in retrospect was bad messaging that's causing problems now with people saying "well kids don't get covid!", but ultimately there was no easy fix to this either and that's probably partly why we have the muddled response that we got...no one really knew how to do this poo poo. Governments already did know how to do this that's why governments in some places did do things. Test, trace, isolate is a well known tactic in response to a pandemic as are quarantine lockdowns. We had entire huge guides on how to handle pandemics. We have legions of experts. "Nobody knew" isn't a really good take. quote:Re: removing the mask mandates/recommendations, it's pretty obvious they were hoping to incentivize more people getting the vaccines with the carrot of "then you'll be able to go back to normal!" but it was poorly thought out and then they got caught with their pants down with delta. They weren't caught with their pants down it was already known months in advance of removing mask mandates.
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Sep 16, 2021 18:44
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Levitate posted:Done what? Send kids back to school safely? No. Sending kids to in-person schooling is a mistake, without vastly lower rates. However many countries have successfully managed to safely and ecnomically lockdown large parts of the population for long periods. quote:I think there is another context/argument that you really are ultimately making and that's about how the US government and US people have basically failed at this pandemic and I feel the "other countries have done this" argument is more appropriate as a critique of the overall US culture, form of government, and people itself. When I talk about the stuff I talk about it's in the context of knowing our country is hosed and we can't go back in time and magically find a way to fix it before this. I don't think the people in the US, the state and local governments, etc, are willing and able to carry out the things you talk about. The federal government would have to be willing to use military force all over the nation to enforce quarantines and lockdowns and mandates and we know they won't do that, but you can't rely on local authorities to do it either. The issue is you're applying a lack of information or ignorance to the bad decisions it has made, which isn't the case. The government has had information indicating what is a good or bad decision, and it has made a number of bad decisions. Pretending it's an honest accident does not create a culture of accountability or a nation where things can get better. quote:Caught with their pants down can also mean they disregarded what was happening in India (thinking "well it's India that's basically a third world country right??) when tehy should have been paying attention. It doesn't mean there was nothing they could have done to foresee this, it means they were unprepared for a variety of reasons and it's on them for loving up the response Caught with their pants down implies it was a surprise or accident, to me. It was neither.
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Sep 16, 2021 19:12
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HonorableTB posted:I was able to get her to agree by listening to her fears instead of trying to shame her, and I was able to gently persuade her into it by telling her that I had gotten the shots and was totally fine, and I wouldn't ask her to do anything unsafe or anything that I wasn't also willing to do myself. I also made the point that her young children (she's a single mom, our area was extremely working class) aren't old enough to get the shots yet so the best protection she could give them was to get herself protected too so she had a better chance of not bringing it home to her babies. Thank you for doing good work. This kind of stuff isn't easy but it does work better than most anything else.
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Sep 16, 2021 19:44
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FDA IS IN THE PARKETS OF BIG....chiro I guess?
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Sep 17, 2021 20:42
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lil poopendorfer posted:You are a CNA last I checked the HCW thread, stop acting like you're some authority on the matter I mean seriously right, do they realize how many posts we've read on this subject? Get on our level, loser.
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Sep 17, 2021 22:45
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mod sassinator posted:Nearly 700k Americans are dead, over 2,500 are dying a day. Can we stop trivializing this disease and treat it with the respect appropriate to the #3 killer of all Americans? I don't think cute animals are appropriate in this discussion. People are loving dying. Stop pretending people in this thread don't care because they disagree with you. Probably some people posting here suck, but thread tax exists specifically because we do know this is serious and people are dying including people we know, our family, and ourselves and we need something to push off the darkness a bit.
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Sep 17, 2021 23:18
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Is there a good site to compare covid numbers based on *city*? Not country or state. International specifically.
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Sep 21, 2021 18:03
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Focusing the entire conversation of "keeping Covid under control" on China is stupid and people keep doing it because it allows them to not have hard conversations about reality and face the fact that the US has basically just let 3/4 of a million people die for no good reason. If you have to talk about the reality of treating the pandemic like any number of countries, that have been able to control it that are not China, then you have to get down into the details of exactly why the US is a failed state on many levels. So, much easier to talk about China, a country that's very very bad but also did good on Covid. Then we talk about Uygher genocide and the Great Firewall and pretend that Australia, South Korea, etc, are some unachievable ideal.
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Sep 24, 2021 18:12
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LionArcher posted:Just read the last dozen pages. There's idiots in both threads and good posts in both threads but putting some forum war on a slightly different thread is dumb.
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Sep 25, 2021 17:27
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nexous posted:If there were a box with a button on it, and every time you push the button someone dies horribly of Covid, but you get a Covid free brunch, how many times would you push the button Same, OP open 'er up
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Sep 25, 2021 17:39
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Booourns posted:I'd consider nearly 700k dead americans to be "wrong" even if you assume India is lying and triple it's numbers it's still below the US in per capita deaths 
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Sep 25, 2021 19:29
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Slow News Day posted:If you are fully vaccinated and otherwise at no risk, then by all means, resume your previous lifestyle, including brunch, gym, conferences, sports events, etc. lol everybody i know with relevant background on infectious disease avoids events with lots of people outdoors and anything indoors if at all possible edit: tax 
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Sep 25, 2021 19:47
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Slow News Day posted:One of the people in my bi-weekly (indoor) rock climbing group is an RN and another is an epidemiologist who works at the state department of health. Yeah that's why they look at evidence instead of being idiots. Also I bet your state has lovely covid guidelines so connect the dots there.
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Sep 25, 2021 20:16
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nexous posted:“gonna carry some TNT into my gym, but don’t worry, I did a self assessment of the risk and I’m ok with getting blown up” -an idiot in this thread Got a police bomb expert in my Denny's suck-n-gently caress crew. He thinks it's fine. Don't you trust him to not blow up a poor minority neighborhood in LA?
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Sep 25, 2021 20:21
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I remember school discussion. So it might be useful to bring up that major school districts were never, ever even serious about remote schooling this year. https://ktla.com/news/local-news/surge-in-demand-for-remote-learning-overwhelms-l-a-public-schools/ It wasn't real and nobody had any plan.
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Sep 28, 2021 01:18
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StrangeThing posted:Yes you can. Do you, like, shake it's spike protein?
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Sep 28, 2021 02:10
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Professor Beetus posted:Real talk for a minute, as far as the US is concerned, is anyone in here against the idea of stronger NPIs in addition to big vaccination initiatives? I'm not saying you all can't debate and discuss but let's make sure we're not just yelling past each other when it comes to the bottom line. Which, ya know, is ideally doing whatever we can to stop and contain the spread of this deadly virus. I think people are mostly arguing about what and aren't effective NPIs and whether people are basing their personal risk assessments on accurate data. And given that I'd say all but maybe 5 people in this thread have their expertise on the subject come from the school of Google that's where it gets yelly.
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Sep 28, 2021 21:49
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StrangeThing posted:My gym won't require masks in Victoria, Aus, but that's only when we get to 80% double dose, and there are density requirements as well. Just as a fun comparison, the 7 day moving average for your state is almost exactly 1/10th of where I live, California, the only state in the US that's doing slightly OK.
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Sep 28, 2021 22:04
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Epic High Five posted:In my experience, people will wear a mask if they're mandated and will not if they aren't. Indoors or whatever, doesn't matter. There is also a cascading effect where if they go into a place and like half the people aren't wearing one, they'll take their own off because if it's not getting enforced who cares. So it's a two prong thing Saw this the other day. I went to a private garden that has a fairly limited entrance per day, everything out door and distanced. They required masks for everyone but apparently nobody told 75% of the men(and it was all men, despite a 50/50 gender split on attendees), and soon almost everyone took their masks off. So we left.
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Sep 28, 2021 22:14
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freebooter posted:We also have about 1/5th the population of California and have been under incredibly strict lockdown for two months now, so this actually looks very bad IMO! (Unless California is undertesting, which is probably true of anywhere that's mostly gone back to normal.) Indiana has roughly the same population and 4x the numbers. Tennessee roughly 5x. Delta is really really infectious.
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Sep 28, 2021 23:21
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P100 is just a filtration rating, not a mask type. Full reusable face masks are called elastomerics, and they can be used with 95 or 100 level filtration. There's disagreement on whether they protect just you, or you and others since they do not filter the output valve except on certain models. Disposable masks generally don't have an exhalation valve and will filter air coming in and out.
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Sep 29, 2021 18:23
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lol if you're not wearing one of these to do go get your curbside pickup grocery runs Mr. Pardiggle posted:Hi everyone, where are the links to the good KN-95/N-95 masks? They were like a buck a pop or something. I know I can’t trust Amazon because they apparently mix in good product with counterfeit. https://bonafidemasks.com/Powecom-kn-95/
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Sep 29, 2021 18:42
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How are u posted:Jesus, how many people itt wear the full elasto masks? How are u posted:Are the p100s the full-on Bane-style cover your whole head and face respirators? I feel like you should explore why you felt the need to post on this twice per page.
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Sep 29, 2021 18:51
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Somebody posted some sort of 3M full head advanced filtration system at like a supermarket over in the CSPAM thread.
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Sep 30, 2021 00:34
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Gio posted:Those are PAPRs, and as someone who frequently posts in that thread, I don’t remember anyone doing that. No not someone in that thread, somebody spotted it out in public. It was cool looked like a space helmet.
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Sep 30, 2021 01:08
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https://laist.com/news/education/covid-19-pandemic-student-enrollment-decline-los-angeles-lausdquote:The Los Angeles Unified School District has some 27,000 fewer students enrolled this year than last year, according to new data presented to the district's board of education this week. The enrollment decline is about three times the annual decline seen in years prior to the pandemic. Yeah who could have imagined throwing kids into a meatgrinder would be unpopular
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Oct 2, 2021 01:13
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How are u posted:The only way out is through. Expand on this. What does this mean?
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Oct 2, 2021 21:23
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How are u posted:We claw our way up to 90+% vaccination rate nationwide and worldwide over the course of a couple more years. I don't expect any radical changes with regards to NPIs from what's going on now. There will be no 'zero covid' in the future, set expectations accordingly. What makes you think we get to 90%+
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Oct 2, 2021 23:26
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If I'm reading that right, sounds like it will be great news if Delta ever stops being the dominant strain.
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Gio posted:or even KN95’s shown to have inferior filtration efficiency (Powecom), What's that? Thread favorite Bonafide Masks is a major distributor of their product
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Oct 16, 2021 21:38
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