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Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..
I always liked SA's motto of "the internet makes you stupid." It captures what I think is the best idea from SA: the supposedly utopian promise of the internet has a lot of trash on it, that trash is bad for you, and if you're not careful the internet will kill you. The forums, originally, had strict moderation targeted at a bunch of the worst that the late 90s and early 2000s had to offer: typing like an idiot, no content posting, low-effort garbage in general, and so on.

But time has changed, and what was the worst of it then is not always the worst of it now. So what I want to know from you is: what sucks about the internet today? What are the features of the internet that make it such a miserable loving experience?

Is it professional influencers cannibalizing every new idea in seconds? Hyper aggro posting battles? The way that every user experience has to be undermined for the sake of letting advertisers use you? Tell me. Tell me all.

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yoloer420
May 19, 2006
I'm not stoked that 90% of internet posters are now propaganda bots.

EoinCannon
Aug 29, 2008

Grimey Drawer
They should never have put it on people's phones

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

EoinCannon posted:

They should never have put it on people's phones

You mean you don't love checking work emails from bed at 10PM?

yoloer420 posted:

I'm not stoked that 90% of internet posters are now propaganda bots.

Like they're literally fronts for something, or they're just dedicatedly evangelizing their side in the posting wars? Both suck but I wanna know which one you're thinking of.

old beast lunatic
Nov 3, 2004

by Hand Knit
Internet today

pros:
You can tell public figures to suck the poo poo out of your rear end in a top hat and they might read it.

cons:
That gets you banned :mad:

yoloer420
May 19, 2006

Hand Knit posted:

Like they're literally fronts for something, or they're just dedicatedly evangelizing their side in the posting wars? Both suck but I wanna know which one you're thinking of.

I was thinking of the second one. The first one sucks too of course, but wasn't what came to mind.

The home grown angry dude with 100 sock puppets and a poorly curated AI algo churning out pro disease posts was my thought here.

Dr.Smasher
Nov 27, 2002

Cyberpunk 1987
Pros: Every possible piece of information in the entire world


Cons: 4chan, erotic MLP/ Harry Potter crossover fanfic

Revins
Nov 2, 2007





tune the FM in to static and pretend that its the sea
social media has turned into a collection of echo chambers where misinformation spreads like wildfire and is accepted as truth because enough people share the same bullshit

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
Those posts that are someone copy/pasting a twitter link that are just a one sentence opinion that someone else has. Hold on I'll find an example. It'll take a minute.


The site is riddled with them. This is probably a less bad one. Half the time I thinks it's just people linking posts from their own twitter accounts.

e: better example of what I mean

old beast lunatic
Nov 3, 2004

by Hand Knit

Revins posted:

social media has turned into a collection of echo chambers where misinformation spreads like wildfire and is accepted as truth because enough people share the same bullshit

Yes but this leads to idiots eating paste for horses and croaking so it's kind of awesome.

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
pros my posts

cons your posts

Katamari Democracy
Jan 19, 2010

Guess what! :love:
Guess what this is? :love:
A Post, Just for you! :love:
Wedge Regret
Im hopelessly addicted to short videos from Youtube or Ticktok, but god damnit is 90% of the content dumb.

Bring back Vine, people made more effort and there were more diamonds there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27AXxt753PI

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

old beast lunatic posted:

Yes but this leads to idiots eating paste for horses and croaking so it's kind of awesome.

Every cloud has its silver lining.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


yoloer420 posted:

I'm not stoked that 90% of internet posters are now propaganda bots.

This post brought to you by Raid Shadow Legends

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
The people who got mega rich off of it.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Something Awful

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

The internet in the 90s was the Wild West. Sure there were outlaws and it was dangerous but it was wild, imaginative, and the horses roamed free. These days the outlaws are replaced with the rich and it's not legal to just cyber-shoot them anymore, so their crimes are even more heinous. Now they paved over the wild west and built a big dumb city full of idiots and they all have bad opinions. There aren't even horses to laugh at anymore because everyone drives cars instead.

20 Blunts
Jan 21, 2017
theyre photoshopping the men's penises to be smaller and the womens butts to be bigger

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
If you search for piss on spankbang nothing comes up. What the gently caress?

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
everyone posting their terrible mushbrained opinions 24/7 and then arguing relentlessly about them

I don't care how you personally feel about things, tell me about some interesting thing that happened and if you can't do that, post a funny cat video or something

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

deep dish peat moss posted:

The internet in the 90s was the Wild West. Sure there were outlaws and it was dangerous but it was wild, imaginative, and the horses roamed free. These days the outlaws are replaced with the rich and it's not legal to just cyber-shoot them anymore, so their crimes are even more heinous. Now they paved over the wild west and built a big dumb city full of idiots and they all have bad opinions. There aren't even horses to laugh at anymore because everyone drives cars instead.

It's definitely more gentrified. I dunno if it's the gentrification in itself that I hate, or the extremely gentrified professional people who moved in and try to keep posting like it was 25 years ago. Like we're seeing people's midlife crises play out online but instead of 1950s muscle cars it's terrible posting.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Inserting ads inbetween paragraphs of poo poo you are trying to read.
Even with adblocking you don't see all the info in the one place.

How google will pimp fake as gently caress news sites rather than the articles you are trying to find.
Search for some local news from 2013, up comes links to obvious fake virus bait sites.

Every website has 500 tracking cookies, and your page will not load until all of them get the data that they want from you.

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

Hand Knit posted:

Is it professional influencers cannibalizing every new idea in seconds?

This is one of my pet peeves. Things can't just exist anymore, they have to be analyzed, overused and badly parodied just so youtubers can get content for videos.

Xaintrailles
Aug 14, 2015

:hellyeah::histdowns:
Let's build a load of security systems into computers so attackers can't execute their code on them, then make the web by just flinging javascript everywhere.

Xaintrailles fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Sep 30, 2021

Sex Farm
Nov 17, 2017

News articles that are just "here are some tweets from random people about the topic"

Sex Farm
Nov 17, 2017

Buying a wallet online and then all the targeted ads are for wallets for the next week even if I bought one already

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


StarkRavingMad posted:

everyone posting their terrible mushbrained opinions 24/7 and then arguing relentlessly about them

I don't care how you personally feel about things, tell me about some interesting thing that happened and if you can't do that, post a funny cat video or something

What the gently caress did you just loving say about me, you little binch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the gently caress out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my loving words. You think you can get away with saying that poo poo to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're loving dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable rear end off the face of the continent, you little poo poo. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your loving tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will poo poo fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're loving dead, kiddo.

runnypoops
Mar 26, 2016

been there. done that. prove yourself to me.
Porn is too hawt and my dicks been degloved from overtugging

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
It's those gosh dang kids with their tikkity toks and their fourth nights, OP! I don't get any of it, dangnabbit! :bahgawd:

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

super sweet best pal posted:

This is one of my pet peeves. Things can't just exist anymore, they have to be analyzed, overused and badly parodied just so youtubers can get content for videos.

The turnaround is so quick novelty barely even gets to exist anymore. It's like for something to keep itself safe it has to be simultaneously inscrutable and completely repellent. (I guess that's why SA persists.)

Poasty posted:

News articles that are just "here are some tweets from random people about the topic"

Yeah, twitter really is a horrible influence. It's just so... consumable? Is that the right way to put it?

SIDS Vicious
Jan 1, 1970


my internet is down toniguht :(

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
I don't like that, if I want to learn how to do something, what would have been a few paragraphs of text maybe with some illustrative images is now a 20+ minute video. I don't want to watch some guy blather for 20 minutes, comment on other videos he's made, and feature zany recurring characters just to learn something. I also know that I learn much better from text than audio and it's hard to find that anywhere any more.

SIDS Vicious
Jan 1, 1970


Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

I don't like that, if I want to learn how to do something, what would have been a few paragraphs of text maybe with some illustrative images is now a 20+ minute video. I don't want to watch some guy blather for 20 minutes, comment on other videos he's made, and feature zany recurring characters just to learn something. I also know that I learn much better from text than audio and it's hard to find that anywhere any more.

hi jeffrey can i be ik of some thread please and thank u

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth
Twitter and the horrendous communication style it has spawned.

Slumpy
Jun 10, 2008
i miss all the websites that just existed to be something someone created. give me another smashing pumpkins geocities. some bullshit guestbook having bi-monthly updated blog by some old woman in montana talking about clouds or something. and i guess, with that, genuine interaction or genuine insight without having some product pushed on you.

SIDS Vicious
Jan 1, 1970


Slumpy posted:

i miss all the websites that just existed to be something someone created. give me another smashing pumpkins geocities. some bullshit guestbook having bi-monthly updated blog by some old woman in montana talking about clouds or something.

neocities has brought this feeling back nicely

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
"Hey guys...." SHUT THE gently caress UP

386-SX 25Mhz VGA
Jan 14, 2003

(C) American Megatrends Inc.,
YouTube definitely absolutely sucks now compared to the early days. There used to be a way to reliably get shown new videos based on a topic of your choosing (related videos)

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

I don't like that, if I want to learn how to do something, what would have been a few paragraphs of text maybe with some illustrative images is now a 20+ minute video. I don't want to watch some guy blather for 20 minutes, comment on other videos he's made, and feature zany recurring characters just to learn something. I also know that I learn much better from text than audio and it's hard to find that anywhere any more.

Gotta hit that monetization benchmark at 10 minutes.

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chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

The internet sucks because people keep pretending that it's a vital utility that supports all government, industry and commerce instead of a place to make silly jokes and argue and make web pages about things you like. The internet was a nice little house party with you and two dozen friends and cool acquaintances. The air and the vibes had that quality to it that anything could happen. An orgy. An indie film. Getting hammered and doing insane stunts. Something magical. And then government agents busted in and jumped up on the tables demanding people use coasters and kept changing the playlist under gunpoint and media companies flooded it with shills trying to get people to try their products or sign up for horrible subscriptions and take pictures of everyone all the time. And then they started bussing everyone's parents in. And grandparents. And your boss. And then they locked the doors. That's the internet.

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