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Twitter is 5% content 95% people posting the same 5 reaction gifs over and over.
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Oct 1, 2021 22:59
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ThingOne posted:Twitter is 5% content 95% people posting the same 5 reaction gifs over and over. 
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Oct 1, 2021 23:02
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deep dish peat moss posted:To be fair, a lot of what TikTok does is not any different from other social media apps - they all harvest absurd amounts of data about you. The one thing that is pretty unique about it is that in their privacy policy, they state that they collect your “typing patterns or rhythms” but they do not state why. Government agencies in the UK and in the US do all sorts of mass data harvesting so not sure why China doing it is especially scary? (unless you have personal/business connections etc and don't want online opinions you've shared or political connections causing you grief etc in which case for sure it's understandable). It's almost impossible for me to do things online in the UK without my data ending up in the hands of US agencies, so I don't see China as more of an internet surveillance boogeyman for me than the US. It's lovely and unpleasant that any country is doing it of course and I'd far rather no one was! I am definitely not happy about it happening. Re keystroke dynamics though - if you worry about how your data is collected then worth knowing that if your bank has an app or a website that you log into - they're likely collecting your typing patterns and more (voiceprint if you use telephone banking for example). It'll be covered by generic disclaimers about collecting personal data or biometrics for security. I know that UK banks do this, and imagine it's the same in other countries. Banks use that kind of information as one of the layers of security, to build a profile of where/when you login or use their services and how you type and move the mouse etc in order to try and detect fraud where someone's account has been compromised. People who work for large companies are sometimes monitored in the same way by their companies, to make sure that it's the real person logging onto the corporate network and that it's not someone else. Whether the identifying data is secure, whether it's in the hands of the company or external security firms, and how penetrated by/accessible to intelligence services and law enforcement it is... well, that's up for debate.
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Oct 1, 2021 23:06
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Strategic Tea posted:I can't wait till they start seeing their insurance skyrocket or get inexplicably rejected for jobs and mortgages. This is why I still pay for most things with cash. by things I mostly mean booze and smokes
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Oct 1, 2021 23:16
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Yeah, the whole Chinese reputation system was terrifying when I heard about it years ago, I'm sure it's even more insidious and dystopian these days.
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Oct 1, 2021 23:17
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Not enough porn catered to my VERY specific niches Sounds like that's more of a problem with your personal finances
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Oct 2, 2021 00:19
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Danger - Octopus! posted:Government agencies in the UK and in the US do all sorts of mass data harvesting so not sure why China doing it is especially scary? (unless you have personal/business connections etc and don't want online opinions you've shared or political connections causing you grief etc in which case for sure it's understandable). It's almost impossible for me to do things online in the UK without my data ending up in the hands of US agencies, so I don't see China as more of an internet surveillance boogeyman for me than the US. It's lovely and unpleasant that any country is doing it of course and I'd far rather no one was! I am definitely not happy about it happening. For the most part a lot of the data that is tracked by social media is required to be stored without any personally identifying information (especially as of GDPR in 2018 or 19 or whenever), so when it's sold to advertisers or third parties they generally can't (or shouldn't be able to) identify the individual that the data belongs to. I don't like data harvesting in general but the method of data harvesting that TikTok does skirts the laws by storing a type of PII that isn't legally understood as PII in most jurisdictions. Despite GDPR not actually being a thing in the US, most US based businesses rolled it out for everyone regardless of locale because it's just not worth the cost of verifying a person's identity, the way GDPR is written it applies to anyone connecting through a european IP address anyway so anyone on an EU VPN can submit a GDPR request to whatever company and it has to be processed. Some states like California are rolling out their own versions of it too. I'm a little more okay with banks doing it personally since it has a legitimate transactional purpose in fraud prevention and anonymized transactions are extremely dumb for everyone involved, but yes you're right that banks track keystroke dynamics. TikTok has no legitimate use for that data other than expanding their ability to influence you. I'm not sure what needs to be explained about why it's bad that a social media site explicitly owned by a foreign superpower government that is actively engaging in ethnic cleansing domestically and digital warfare targeting civilians internationally harvests a particularly high amount of personally identifying information about its users. You're absolutely right that no country should be doing it but China is pretty near the top of the list of worst governments to hand over a psychological profile of yourself to. The US is also near the top of the list but it ranks lower than China for sure. It doesn't matter anymore anyway because that part of it was squashed pretty quickly, at least in the US and I assume other parts of the international market e: It's definitely not an end of the world thing and I hope I'm not making it sound that way, but we were born into the era that will set the foundation for the future of data privacy so we may as well do it right the first time. That and stopping climate change are pretty much the only shots the 21st century has at making a positive impact on the future. deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Oct 2, 2021 |
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Oct 2, 2021 00:58
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WILDTURKEY101 posted:This is why I still pay for most things with cash. I went to a weed store the other day to buy a weed drink of some kind and when I went to pay with a card they told me I needed to download their phone app to do that. It was $20 even, so I just paid with a twenty dollar bill, just like buying a sack from some guy decades ago. A thing that sucks about the internet today: Every company wants you to install their software on your little tiny computer just to buy something from them. Visa and Mastercard already figured this out for you, you don't need to do that, folks.
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Oct 2, 2021 01:12
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In the case of weed stores, there’s the slight teeny problem of their product being illegal federally, so Visa and MC ain’t gonna touch it.
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Oct 2, 2021 02:06
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I don't like how many Nazis are still here
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Oct 2, 2021 02:50
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:In the case of weed stores, there’s the slight teeny problem of their product being illegal federally, so Visa and MC ain’t gonna touch it. The dispensary down the street from me takes Amex. Still feels weird to buy prepackaged weed with a credit card. I don't even have to wait in a sketchy parking lot for them to show up 45 minutes after we agreed to meet.
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Oct 2, 2021 02:54
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Getting weed delivered to me is the best part of the internet. It wasn't even 5 years ago I had to take a 2 hour round trip on the bus and walking with a backpack full of weed and sit through a 2-hour lecture from a dealer about how much they hate people who buy weed from them and linger for 2 hours just to get high
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Oct 2, 2021 03:03
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even when it goes legal in my state I'm probably still gonna go to my dude. His prices are like 200% less than the medical dispensaries, he is constantly cooking delicious food that he gives me, his wife and kids are lovely, and we go fishing together and he knows all kinds of great secret spots. I <3 my dealer.
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Oct 2, 2021 03:24
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Strategic Tea posted:Hell, insurers already offer """discounts""" if you take a """free""" smartwatch and wire them your live biometrics. Everyone at work was confused over why I was turning down the $300/year and ~free Fitbit~ and loving hell I hate this poo poo.
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Oct 2, 2021 03:38
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All the goddamn incest themed porn
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Oct 2, 2021 03:48
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It's harder than ever to find good porn.
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Oct 2, 2021 03:51
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whats with all the weird indian porn with both people wearing balaclavas lately
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Oct 2, 2021 03:54
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Mumpy Puffinz posted:I don't like how many Nazis are still here A goon (allegedly) shot a Nazi a few weeks ago and some QCS people thought this was a bad thing.
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Oct 2, 2021 04:24
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my great uncle died fighting Nazis and when I was a kid we had his service photo, purple heart, Western Union telegram, and casualty report framed in the basement because there is nothing more noble than fighting nazis and he deserves to be remembered his name was Adolf lmao
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Oct 2, 2021 04:27
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Bots, clickbait, SEO, content farms, and clickbait. Not even the bad actors trying to manipulate public opinion or anything so malicious (although that poo poo is a nightmare and it whenever I think about it I wish for a planet-killing meteor to cure the Earth of people). A huge amount of the internet is just a cardboard cutout meant to give the appearance of substance with a minimal amount of time or effort. There's just so much garbage. Try Googling an issue with Microsoft Office or your iPhone, and half the time all you've done is give yourself another job of trying to sort through a bunch of zero-content webpages, most of them containing the exact same copy-pasted bullshit, all hocking spyware claiming to fix the problem. Not only is the internet increasingly awash in a sea of identical pages of advertising packaged as information wrapped presented with the thinnest possible pretense of legitimacy, but the poo poo that they're desperately selling is just another layer of the grift--the least component of a metascam meant to continue exploitation in perpetuity, on the off-chance it even works at all. Even worse, the sheer volume and prevalence of this trash makes it difficult to trust the rare few sources out there with actual merit. I know that a lot of us on here know how to actually search for this sort of content, but I spent a couple of years working credit card support at a call center for a major bank, and the sheer volume of calls I got on a daily basis from people taken in by these and similar scams was truly breathtaking. I still have stress nightmares about "free trials" of garbage herbal supplements people signed up for on Facebook. And it's all just... nothing. Just a huge expenditure of time, resources, and manpower running a cynical, slipshod operation completely devoid of substance of no use to anyone except the handful of sociopathic masterminds serially incapable of facing consequences or accountability. God, I hate it.
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Oct 2, 2021 04:54
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Time_pants posted:Bots, clickbait, SEO, content farms, and clickbait. Came here to complain about this. I don't even know when it first started. I'll Google how to fix a basic computer problem and I get a dozen webpages with generic names that all have the exact same text and look like they're written by bots. It used to be I could find good information from reputable sources very easily. Now those sources are at the bottom of the list.
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Oct 2, 2021 07:51
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Kinda hosed that the pinnacle of human innovation, the thing that puts anyone on the planet in reach of instant communication, and the container of all of human knowledge is mainly used to create or sell advertising space. And as a place to watch step siblings have sex, as mentioned above.
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Oct 2, 2021 09:31
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Danger - Octopus! posted:Government agencies in the UK and in the US do all sorts of mass data harvesting so not sure why China doing it is especially scary? (unless you have personal/business connections etc and don't want online opinions you've shared or political connections causing you grief etc in which case for sure it's understandable). It's almost impossible for me to do things online in the UK without my data ending up in the hands of US agencies, so I don't see China as more of an internet surveillance boogeyman for me than the US. It's lovely and unpleasant that any country is doing it of course and I'd far rather no one was! I am definitely not happy about it happening. Because when I say Boris Johnson is a moron, the secret service don't turn up at my sister's door and tell her to make me shut up or who knows what might happen. I can even accuse the UK of all sorts of imperalism and genocide in the international press without my safety being threatened!
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Oct 2, 2021 10:07
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The early internet was a thing you did for fun and engagement, an anonymous past time that required some investment to show off one’s creativity. One could wander the weirdness of it. Now the internet follows you. Every interaction is recoded, monetized, and behaviors are cataloged with other like minded consumers who are hemmed in to similar product and political veins over and over. The fact that bots can overwhelm discourse and tilt the scales of public opinion that might not actually be accurate in popularity. It’s not just lovely opinions, it’s the never ending torrent of them. Every time I log onto social media, I feel like I’m being lectured. Message boards could be places to experience new points of view (and some crazy ones). The self congratulatory pat on the back of like minded virtue is nauseating. The production values of the internet and ease of use have improved but the quality, weirdness, and variety has been whittled away.
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Oct 2, 2021 10:08
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I do wonder whether the (heavily monetised) solution to all of this will be - more bots. A program that will run hundreds of thousands of algo-generated fake posts, registrations, biometrics and connections from your device, swamping tracking attempts with junk data. Tracking would then be a technological arms race between ability to weed out and ignore all the chaff, and ability to create more convincing fakes. I know nothing about IT. Is this even practical? Strategic Tea fucked around with this message at 10:47 on Oct 2, 2021 |
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Oct 2, 2021 10:26
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Now you’ve got hundreds of fake posts and profiles about yourself that will be sure to offend some future employer or muddy up some legal process. But I like the idea of it.
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Oct 2, 2021 10:29
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Cursing at someone at a store can now get you fired
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Oct 2, 2021 10:35
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youtube lost the plot when it renamed itself from U2be and started to feature music videos from artists other than Ireland's greatest rock band imo
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Oct 2, 2021 15:56
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There's just no logging off thanks to phones being able to access it now. Like it's great that I don't have to use MapQuest to figure out where I'm going and like streaming music and poo poo, but also it's become such a crutch every time there's an idle moment that I seriously considered downgrading to a dumb flip phone and only stopped because so many basic modern needs are tied to being able to easily access the internet now.
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Oct 2, 2021 16:17
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chainchompz posted:There's just no logging off thanks to phones being able to access it now. I mean, ive got a hoop and a stick you can chase it with if your gripe is "source of entertainment when im not doing anything that fits in my pocket"
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Oct 2, 2021 17:02
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Well yeah, that's how folks got addicted to being online. By having an easy source of entertainment always available.
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Oct 2, 2021 17:38
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chainchompz posted:There's just no logging off thanks to phones being able to access it now. I've thought about it, but when I need my gps I need my gps. -man with pile of things to be doing refreshing SA instead.
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Oct 3, 2021 01:19
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Oct 3, 2021 03:14
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chaosbreather posted:The algorithm is a symptom, not the the disease. The disease is people trying to pretend to make proper big boy money using the internet. It should be as untenable for a business to be on the web as it was from them to be in Second Life. That was a choice we made, we got jobs at those businesses and made them websites and told them how to use caps lock instead of laughing at them and vandalising their poo poo until they took it down in embarrassment. We sold our special lil home town to zombie subhuman trash for our nice six figgies. We even invent those algorithms for them, to try and help them trick norm norms into crushing their entire lives through their phones into our quiet frontier wilderness for lonely dweebo smarties. lol
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Oct 3, 2021 17:45
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something that sucks about about the internet today is a bunch of idiots think being on it in 1998 is a mark of pride that proves theyre an inherently superior human being. not that the internet isnt nothing but ads nowadays but jesus christ 'norm norms'. you arent any smarter than uncle jeb and his 15 facebook posts a day about obamacare just because you touched a computer sooner than he did. if anything you might be stupider because at least hes happy when hes not touching a computer whereas youre miserable both on and off it.
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Oct 3, 2021 17:49
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Endorph posted:something that sucks about about the internet today is a bunch of idiots think being on it in 1998 is a mark of pride that proves theyre an inherently superior human being. not that the internet isnt nothing but ads nowadays but jesus christ 'norm norms'. you arent any smarter than uncle jeb and his 15 facebook posts a day about obamacare just because you touched a computer sooner than he did. if anything you might be stupider because at least hes happy when hes not touching a computer whereas youre miserable both on and off it. the internet makes you stupid. I am literally wearing a shirt that says so
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Oct 3, 2021 17:51
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can't argue with a shirt
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Oct 3, 2021 17:51
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question about keystroke dynamics, how do banks or sites use it for sec / making sure I'm me when I copy paste the username / password from a password manager. is the metric there then just the copy and paste and some mouse movement?
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Oct 3, 2021 19:35
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PhazonLink posted:question about keystroke dynamics, how do banks or sites use it for sec / making sure I'm me when I copy paste the username / password from a password manager. they know and look at what you copied. when you paste it it has data
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I think the biggest problem with the internet is the segmentation redesign in TCP 4.0.
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