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# ¿ May 17, 2024 15:15 |
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I constantly mix up the names for The Parting of the Ways and Doomsday, because each seems like a far more appropriate name for the other.
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2021 08:39 |
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They're all the same person so maybe they'd be the Timeless Childs Well except for the fact the Doctor isn't the Timeless Child in the first place because that's just loving stupid Can't wait for it to be tossed into the dustbin of stupid Doctor Who ideas everybody just pretends didn't happen like The Other and Half Human on my Mother's Side.
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2021 22:04 |
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All I remember RTD saying is cracking a joke about how it turns out he did multi-Doctor stories after all because maybe everybody on the screen was actually secretly a mindwiped Doctor. Moffat similarly cracked a joke about how ALL THIRTEEN is underwhelming now because he should have had a few million TARDISes show up to save the day. Because, you know, the concept of the Timeless Child is a loving joke
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# ¿ Oct 26, 2021 22:34 |
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Confusedslight posted:Did that ever get brought up by big finish? Feel like it is something I would remember.... There's a 6th Doctor audio where to prevent anybody accessing the Eye of Harmony, he reprograms the TARDIS to Evelyn's eye instead since nobody will think that a human eye could open it. At the end of the story he muses to himself that he mustn't forget to change that back
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2021 01:37 |
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I really hope the new half-season is good, and Chibnall somehow manages to finish on a high. I really do. If for no other reason than Jodie Whittaker deserves so much better than she's gotten.
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2021 04:42 |
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I'm still more than willing to be optimistic and hope he learned from the issues of the last two seasons, especially given how much time he had to write this one (and it's only half the length of a regular season). I know I say it a lot, but the man wrote that first season of Broadchurch so he clearly CAN write very good television!
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2021 05:17 |
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Jesus Christ after almost 11 months (which was 9 months after the last episode) FINALLY a new episode of Doctor Who.
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2021 19:26 |
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I did like the "relief" payoff. Edit: And I already like Dan - just showing up to museums to enthusiastically give tours he isn't qualified for. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Oct 31, 2021 |
# ¿ Oct 31, 2021 19:31 |
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SiKboy posted:Our baddie appears to be spikey red skeletor. Did the actor change between killing and absorbing his guard? I wasn't entirely sure if the actress who played the guard was beneath the monster make-up once she was killed, or if it was the voice and look being different that threw me off.
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2021 19:42 |
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Ahahaha what a little cutie this villain is
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2021 19:43 |
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Maybe the TARDIS is fed up with its ugly console room too?
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2021 19:52 |
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Oh, that's what she meant by taking the long way home.
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2021 19:54 |
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Davros1 posted:Okay, I just realized you Brits aren't getting commercial breaks with your viewing, so you're going to be ahead of us Yanks. Doctor Who.... with commercial breaks? I can't even imagine what that's like.
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2021 19:55 |
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Well that was all over the place and I imagine will make more sense with the context of the rest of the season, since it's obviously all one big story, but it was interesting at least. Dan is good, and without Graham and Ryan in the mix Yaz is actually getting to do something for a change which was nice.
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2021 20:19 |
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OldMemes posted:Dan is already much better than Yaz. I missed the first few minutes so I'm going to watch them on iplayer. Looking forward to the end of the season when he finds out the reason the Doctor doesn't remember him is because he's just one of a few dozen forgettable aliens she ran into a couple thousand years earlier as Ruth-Doctor before the Time Lords regenerated her into Pertwee and dumped him in Epping. "Sorry you all kind of just... blended together..... after awhile. Ironic really, given what you do."
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2021 20:27 |
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I loved the redesign of the Sontarans when I saw the image, and I still like how they look... but I'm confused as to why they redesigned them to look like the more serious/dangerous versions from the 70s.... and then wrote dialogue where they're being comical again. I guess next episode we'll see what tone they choose to take.
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# ¿ Oct 31, 2021 22:33 |
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The Halloween Apocalypse
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2021 11:43 |
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Yeah, it's clearly building up to some big reveal. Hopefully something that lets the "previous lives" thing be shunted away to wither and die like it should (they should keep Jo Martin though, she's cool!) and firmly establishes the same thing that has been firmly established time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again over the course of the revival and the entire classic series (apart from ONE throwaway scene that everybody hated and dismissed), that William Hartnell was the first Doctor. It really, genuinely does bother me that the show would ever try and take that away. Not just because William Hartnell was the first actor, obviously, or that it reeks of a writer desperately trying to stamp their personal mark on the show forever (which will of course be discarded by the next writer regardless, have comic books taught these people nothing!?!), but because the 1st Doctor was an rear end in a top hat when he first appeared. I think it's gigantically important that the Doctor learned to be a better, more "human" person because unlike his people he exposed himself to outside ideas and philosophies, and he grew as a person thanks to his personal experiences with human beings and other "lesser" species and came to reject supremacism and prejudice and eventually become somebody who fought with everything they had to protect people and reject cruelty and malice. Also they call him the Doctor before he used the fake name Doctor Foreman so Susan could go to school and socialize and Ian and Barbara called him Doctor automatically and the name stuck! Turning that into,"There were a million billion Doctors before Hartnell and they were all naturally committed idealists!" is just... ugh. UGH! Anyway forget all that bullshit, I largely liked the first episode and I am keeping my fingers crossed that once all six are out a lot of stuff that kind of doesn't make sense or felt weirdly paced will be recontextualized and come together as a greater whole. I certainly got the impression we were seeing a lot of people/events happening out of order that will come into sharper focus in individual episodes to come. It's new Doctor Who, we're watching new Doctor Who thank God!
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2021 23:23 |
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I do like that I went from the initial trailer reveal of him making me go,"It looks like a lovely Chewbacca" to the actual episode making me go "I love that good doggy very much "
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2021 22:28 |
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Khanstant posted:Whoa, so wait, are we in for a year+ minimum hiatus before new who again after flux? There'll be three specials from Chibnall/Whittaker next year before the regeneration scene, which will presumably be filmed by RTD and his new production crew as has been the tradition up till now, then the new Doctor's first series will air in 2023.
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2021 02:31 |
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Khanstant posted:I'm kind of assuming the next few episodes will each explore one of the mystery questions set-up and then a finale that brings them altogether and ties or unties a knot wrt to the Timeless Child and/or Timeless Childses Yeah this is what I believe the season's 6 episode idea is about, everything that happens each episode is going to tie together and recontextualize the first episode, and indeed the next 2-3 episdes are likely to continue to introduce things that won't fully make sense till the 6th episode (if then) when everything comes together. If Chibnall can pull it off, good! There was certainly enough going on in the first episode to make me want to see how it gets (hopefully) resolved.
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2021 03:34 |
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BooDooBoo posted:She's THE DOCTOR, but she's not remembered by The Doctor, until that gets fixed and she regenerates into Pertwee, and then we can team Jo up with Jamie on Big Finish, because Jamie is the best. Aww man,
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2021 01:05 |
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That house is loving awesome.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2021 19:18 |
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SiKboy posted:Okay, I'm just going to say it; They need to give up on the sontarans being taken seriously as a threat. I dont care how many revamps they give them, that ship has absolutely sailed. Now come on that's unfa- watches Sontarans fail to hit Dan from 3 feet away with laser guns, then get beat up by pensioners Oh.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2021 19:27 |
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Russia and China are evil aliens, is it the 1970s?
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2021 19:33 |
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I'd say that the handprint security being terrible is ridiculous... but it is the Sontarans!SiKboy posted:I'm glad the general stayed up all night making up his elaborate plan of... having all the troops run straight towards the sontarans on foot, trying to stab them with bayonets, and occasionally shooting his single cannon. A British General, sending troops needlessly into death!?!
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2021 19:58 |
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"I've still got a human in this fight"
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2021 20:04 |
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Apparently the Sontaran Commander hasn't heard of "shifts". To be fair, the Sontarans would probably lose their minds at the idea of having to stand guard instead of fight, but.... come on!
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2021 20:07 |
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Well I remain intrigued. The Sontarans strategy was incredibly stupid but I guess that's par for the course for Sontarans, who also assumed that they were dealing with primitive idiots with firesticks who would never in a million years figure out where their base was, but I like the Sugar Skull aliens whose primary concern seems to be looking as fly as possible including hiring some big dude to hang out in the background being giant and not much else.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2021 20:20 |
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SiKboy posted:I like Disco Red Skull and his sister, the sugar skull gang, I look forward to the Passenger taking off his mask and revealing hes actually... gently caress I dont know, Dan, The Doctor or the Master at this point. Comedy prediction is the Curator. He just turned up and was off hand introduced ("this is the passenger, hes here now too" essentially) and either thats the worst storytelling ever (and believe me I'm not ruling that out), my memory is going and he was introduced last week and I forgot, or theres a dramatic reveal coming. Absolutely, they're really enjoyable so far and I adore that Disco Red Skull (I love that name, thank you for this gift ) just randomly showed up with this giant dude out of nowhere and the show just rolls with it. He definitely wasn't introduced last week so yeah there will be some big reveal to come, but it's hilarious that he's just there all of a sudden.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2021 20:38 |
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OldMemes posted:After the timeless child stuff thing, am I the only one worried that Chibnall is going to be all the frozen people on the planet time where the real time lords all along, those guys on Gallifrey were just posers ALL ALONG!!!, but hopefully not. Taking the most charitable view, I'm going to assume it'll be something that stands distinct in some way that he wants to jam into the show's continuity, like time didn't used to exist and everything was just a chaotic flux of everything and nothing at once and then time got established thanks to the Mouri or whatever, the universe assembled into something resembling order with the Sugar Skull Gang imprisoned to prevent them unraveling it, and then Rassilon and Omega came along however long later and invented time travel and Rassilon elevated selected Gallifreyans into Time Lords etc. The less charitable view is that he's had some "what if actually THIS!" idea in his head since he was a teenager that he's determined to stamp down onto the show to CHANGE HOW WE SEE THE DOCTOR FOREVER and we just have to put up with it for another 7 episodes till RTD comes back and just ignores it and it just becomes a "remember that weird time they did this dumb thing?" part of the show's history, like "half human on my mother's side" or the Other or the Mobius Doctors or the 1st Doctor and Susan being refugees from the 50th Century or whatever.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2021 20:59 |
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This season is like 98% written by Chibnall, so yeah the writing is very much a single person's vision for better or worse, as opposed to the writer's room setup they went for the last two seasons that doesn't seem to have really worked. And yeah, for all my criticisms, the last two episodes have been enjoyable and I find the overarching plot intriguing so it's definitely a big step-up from the rather aimless feel of the previous season (which with only mild hyperbole feels like it aired 45 years ago now), and Dan is a great addition to the cast.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2021 21:07 |
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OldMemes posted:The thing is 'Rassilon was bad actually' is ground that has been well trodden by the expanded universe stuff, and has been part of the TV lore with the Timothy Dalton episodes. I'm not sure if you took my post to be an endorsement of Rassilon or something or I'm just misunderstanding what you're saying here? But yeah Rassilon has been shown to be a monster as far back as The Five Doctors where the 2nd Doctor reveals that the image of him as a benevolent and wise ruler masked some incredibly hosed up things he did. Hell, maybe it even gets brought up in The Three Doctors? I can't remember if it is revealed there that Rassilon knowingly let Omega suffer for eternity in order to create time travel or that got retconned in later? Hell, I can't even remember if Rassilon is named in that serial or if he didn't get mentioned until the 4th Doctor's time? Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Nov 7, 2021 |
# ¿ Nov 7, 2021 21:13 |
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Oh yeah that was another weird thing, why the woman who found the Timeless Child wasn't Rassilon as opposed to ... I don't know, Chibnall's names are utterly forgettable, they keep saying what the Sugar Skull Gang's names are and I can't remember apart from "The Passenger".... since Rassilon is absolutely the kind of huge rear end in a top hat who would happily experiment on a kid they genuinely loved if they thought they could get some benefit out of it.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2021 21:52 |
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OldMemes posted:Fun fact: The actor who played Rassilon in The Timeless Children was picked so they could keep continuity with Zagreus of all things. Rassilon was in The Timeless Children? I don't recall that at all. Or do you just mean the woman who got given some other weird name instead?
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2021 22:03 |
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Thanks JaKiri And oh yeah, SWARM! That's Disco Red Skull's name. I'll try not to forget that. What is Swarm's sister's name?
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2021 22:06 |
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Ahahaha so he did "The Other" by stealth while also pointlessly referencing the Mobius Doctors? Jesus Christ, Chibnall SiKboy posted:Azure I think? Something like that, because I was again slightly underwhelmed that the lady with the blue skins name is effectively "blue". Maybe they were worried it would be too on the nose for The Red Skull's sister to be The Blue Skull? Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Nov 7, 2021 |
# ¿ Nov 7, 2021 22:17 |
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Oh yeah just wanna rave again about how loving cool the impossible house looked. I really want to know more about that.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2021 22:27 |
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# ¿ May 17, 2024 15:15 |
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Davros1 posted:When did the Skull Villains pick up Darkseid? Until we learn otherwise I'm going to assume Disco Red Skull appeared somewhere the dude was standing nearby, and when he moved the guy just kind of... silently followed. So DRS shrugged and just went with it, and even gave him a little passive-aggressive nickname of Passenger for shits and giggles. He won't do anything all season, just kind of stand around, and when DRS and his sister get beaten he'll just kind of... wander away.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2021 04:24 |