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Trazz posted:This Thanksgiving, remember to cut all right-wingers out of your life Right wing family members are for family reunions and 4th of July bbqs. The holidays are stressful enough. They can celebrate with the other right wing psychos, and we can celebrate with other sane folks.
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Relentless posted:Right wing family members are for family reunions and 4th of July bbqs. These people have all determined that white supremacy takes a higher priority than god, country, or family, do not reward them with your company Also, the irony of spending the 4th of July with a bunch of abusive seditionists is too funny Trazz fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Nov 1, 2021 |
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Nov 1, 2021 19:08
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A big flaming stink posted:On the other hand, this is an entire thread of some prime leopards eating faces stuff I'm not sure if I got a bigger laugh from the part where he says all the guards are African immigrants who have been taught to hate America and beat them for singing the national anthem, or the part where he says THE GOVERNMENT HAS CANCELED ME and then describes how his imprisonment has cost him his business and his home. Because that's what canceling is. These psychos can't even issue a cry for help against (supposed) prison brutality without pandering to their audience's need for political purity.
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Nov 1, 2021 19:15
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Kavros posted:I think the texas abortion ban might have been designed intentionally to send to the supreme court, based on a strategy of purposefully including extremely horrible parts as sacrificial buffers. The upcoming Mississippi case is likely a decision between SCOTUS allowing TRAP laws to gut Roe without technically overturning it, or outright overturning it, so the Texas case won't matter by next summer. I'd guess they'll probably shoot down the Texas case, since it lets Roberts "preserve the image of the court", while also heading off any attempts by states like California to pass similar Calvinball laws allowing people to sue gun owners or something.
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Nov 1, 2021 19:22
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We're going to be negotiating this bill until the heat-death of the universe https://twitter.com/awprokop/status/1455237655495598085?s=20 https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1455235335957450761?s=20 Manchin is lying about 'deficit concerns' as well https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1455239658896510979?s=20
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Nov 1, 2021 19:34
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Manchin continues to be bad and awful. Lmao at citing a lack of compromise after the bill has been stripped to the bone. https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1455236876483403794 https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1455238068076748800
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Nov 1, 2021 19:39
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Manchin saying that Progressives aren’t compromising enough is good because, well, that’s what Progressives do. We have to violently drag people into this side of the 2000’s and not cater to this bumble-gently caress’s twisted idea of not supporting those that need it so that he can continue to get his yacht money in his poor-rear end state. Any sort of inch given up allows them to take a mile from us.
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Nov 1, 2021 19:41
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FlamingLiberal posted:We're going to be negotiating this bill until the heat-death of the universe "Says that progressives aren't compromising enough" That says it all right there. The bill has been reduced from 6 trillion to 3.5 trillion to 1.75 trillion, but the progressives "aren't compromising enough". It's literally "Give me everything I want and nothing you want and we'll call it bipartisan, ask for anything and I walk away" with Manchin. I hope Pelosi brings the bipartisan bill up to vote and the progressive caucus just kills it at this point. I'm happy they held off on voting for it, because this is how Manchin is acting WHEN THEY HAVE A BILL HE WANTS PASSED. Imagine how he would be acting if the Bipartisan bill had been passed.
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Nov 1, 2021 19:42
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Push El Burrito posted:Deplatforming conservative speech shouldn't just happen on Twitter it should happen everywhere including some random pilot on a Southwest flight. Generic criticism of elected officials (even coded) is hardly “conservative speech” or hate speech. Moving the goalposts on what those phrases mean undermines your ability to actually call them out - like applying the “Nazi” label to Romney undermined doing the same with Trump. More importantly, the end of that line of thinking results in: people critiquing DEAR LEADER are the ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE.
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Nov 1, 2021 19:44
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FlamingLiberal posted:We're going to be negotiating this bill until the heat-death of the universe Squeal louder, you little corporate toady.
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If the BIF passes alone, BBB will never follow. We knew this the moment moderate democrats tried to decouple them, and Manchin's dustup & whine about them not being decoupled only reinforces that.
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Ringo Star Get posted:Manchin saying that Progressives aren’t compromising enough is good because, well, that’s what Progressives do. We have to violently drag people into this side of the 2000’s and not cater to this bumble-gently caress’s twisted idea of not supporting those that need it so that he can continue to get his yacht money in his poor-rear end state. What are you talking about lol. The progressives have compromised repeatedly and they're almost certainly going to again Neurolimal posted:If the BIF passes alone, BBB will never follow. We knew this the moment moderate democrats tried to decouple them, and Manchin's dustup & whine about them not being decoupled only reinforces that. Yeah that is and always was the whole point of splitting the bills. Any understanding of what's going on is incoherent without acknowledging this
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Generic criticism of elected officials (even coded) is hardly “conservative speech” or hate speech. There is no such thing as "generic criticism" from a conservative, it's a grudge that's been brainwashed into them from a young age
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Nov 1, 2021 19:49
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FlamingLiberal posted:We're going to be negotiating this bill until the heat-death of the universe He is transparent in his want to kill the BBB act. He wants the BIF bill passed so he can vote down reconciliation. When he wants progressives to compromise, he means they need to discard all of their policy priorities. Compromise is "I get what I want and you get nothing" to Manchin.
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Nov 1, 2021 19:50
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Generic criticism of elected officials (even coded) is hardly “conservative speech” or hate speech. Moving the goalposts on what those phrases mean undermines your ability to actually call them out - like applying the “Nazi” label to Romney undermined doing the same with Trump. More importantly, the end of that line of thinking results in: people critiquing DEAR LEADER are the ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE. Nobody here gives a poo poo that Biden is getting criticized. Somehow that seems to be missing from this discussion. "Why should we care if they say 'gently caress Joe Biden' if he sucks?" Nobody cares to defend Biden, that's not the thing at all. The thing is that anyone posting a "Let's Go Brandon" meme or whatever is saying "I am very right wing and very online" and you should react to those two facts about this person accordingly.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:like applying the “Nazi” label to Romney undermined doing the same with Trump. 
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lol @ all the crowing that 1.2 + 1.8 trillion was this transformational amount of spending that was going to help so many people, biggest expansion of the safety net since the Great Society, etc We're getting a trillion if we're lucky
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https://twitter.com/brianschatz/status/1455239413785632771 So apparently this was yet again him going on stage and doing a stupid dance for attention as they're already getting ready to discuss this with him.
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Nov 1, 2021 19:59
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I don't think we're getting a vote on the BBB until the CPC follows through on their threat to vote down the BIF bill. After that, we'll see if Manchin and Sinema become more willing to compromise.
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rscott posted:lol @ all the crowing that 1.2 + 1.8 trillion was this transformational amount of spending that was going to help so many people, biggest expansion of the safety net since the Great Society, etc lol if was $1.2 Trillion a year maybe
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Nov 1, 2021 20:15
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Trazz posted:This Thanksgiving, remember to cut all right-wingers out of your life I do not know how people square believing that half the country wants to commit a genocide and also the strongest action to take against them is not visiting for Thanksgiving.
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Gumball Gumption posted:I do not know how people square believing that half the country wants to commit a genocide and also the strongest action to take against them is not visiting for Thanksgiving. If you're not violently attacking your grandma you're not doing enough.
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Checking the composition of the sample...  What the gently caress is in the water at the Denny's that gives the older people in this country severe brain damage? "Let's see, one party wants to give me paid leave and healthcare, and the other wants to install a failed Gameshow Host as President in a violent coup..." "CRAZY DANGEROUS LIBERALS!!"  gently caress are people this goddamn stupid
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Gumball Gumption posted:I do not know how people square believing that half the country wants to commit a genocide and also the strongest action to take against them is not visiting for Thanksgiving. I think I'd probably get modded if I said "throw a Molotov through your racist uncle's window," but social consequences are a start (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Gumball Gumption posted:I do not know how people square believing that half the country wants to commit a genocide and also the strongest action to take against them is not visiting for Thanksgiving. Look, why don't you put up or shut up? Not everyone can risk their jobs and homes just to go commit crimes against political enemies. Some of us have families to take care of, why is this such a foreign idea to you? It's always folks like you that insist everyone else do the dirty work and risk everything.
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Trazz posted:I think I'd probably get modded if I said "throw a Molotov through your racist uncle's window," but social consequences are a start I mean, do you actually think you should burn down the home of a racist relative in order to effect real change? I have a couple of more right-wing extended family members and I'm pretty sure if I went and burned their houses down it would not help either our personal relationship or effect any sort of political change. Does the idea need to scale up to be effective? If 1,000 of us burned down the homes of our right-wing relatives would that start to make a difference? e: I realize I am making an assumption here that when you said "throw a molotov through the window" you just want to burn down the racist uncle's home, and not that you should kill the racist uncle. If you meant actually kill your uncle then I apologize for assuming. How are u fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Nov 1, 2021 |
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Push El Burrito posted:If you're not violently attacking your grandma you're not doing enough. "Yeah we're pretty sure Grandma is falling in with a cult that wants her to kill all her liberal neighbors because of the nanobots in the vaccine so ya know, we're staying out of the neighborhood until it blows over. Hopefully the whole thing resolves itself before next year" TulliusCicero posted:
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TulliusCicero posted:"Let's see, one party wants to give me paid leave and healthcare I don't think this is accurate considering they're in power and they're not giving it to you
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TulliusCicero posted:
Partly leaded gas yeah, but I also want to know what the gently caress it is about the South, where freeways are lined with bright blue LED billboards saying Biden is a pedophile who stole the vote and gave Afghanistan away to Soros. In that environment you have to go out of your actual way to NOT be taught from every conceivable angle that the only good and right way to think is the Nazi way.
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How are u posted:I mean, do you actually think you should burn down the home of a racist relative in order to effect real change? I have a couple of more right-wing extended family members and I'm pretty sure if I went and burned their houses down it would not help either our personal relationship or effect any sort of political change. What if we tried doing the whole "social consequences" thing and see if it works first?
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Trazz posted:What if we tried doing the whole "social consequences" thing and see if it works first? I wholeheartedly agree, I think social consequences are worthwhile and important. I must have been confused, it seemed like you presented "throw a molotov through the window" as a more ideal and effective choice than social consequences, which you indicated were merely "a start". My bad.
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Data Graham posted:Partly leaded gas yeah, but I also want to know what the gently caress it is about the South, where freeways are lined with bright blue LED billboards saying Biden is a pedophile who stole the vote and gave Afghanistan away to Soros. In that environment you have to go out of your actual way to NOT be taught from every conceivable angle that the only good and right way to think is the Nazi way. If you're going to have a lot of suffering people in your country it helps for them to be the most indoctrinated and the American South is where we put a lot of our suffering. That then has a compounding effect.
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TulliusCicero posted:
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Data Graham posted:Partly leaded gas yeah, but I also want to know what the gently caress it is about the South, where freeways are lined with bright blue LED billboards saying Biden is a pedophile who stole the vote and gave Afghanistan away to Soros. In that environment you have to go out of your actual way to NOT be taught from every conceivable angle that the only good and right way to think is the Nazi way. I live in the south and can't say I have ever seen even a single billboard saying anything like this.
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Data Graham posted:Partly leaded gas yeah, but I also want to know what the gently caress it is about the South, where freeways are lined with bright blue LED billboards saying Biden is a pedophile who stole the vote and gave Afghanistan away to Soros. In that environment you have to go out of your actual way to NOT be taught from every conceivable angle that the only good and right way to think is the Nazi way.
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TulliusCicero posted:
Means testing is a hell of a thing to be put through. Every time the democrats means test aid - whether by some arbitrary poverty cap based on 1950's economic data or one's desire or ability to have a child, they leave a struggling person behind. Every time the democrats leave struggling people behind, some nonzero portion of those people swear off the democrats.
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lobster shirt posted:I live in the south and can't say I have ever seen even a single billboard saying anything like this. I mean, I'll show you the one I saw a couple weeks ago on I-4 between Tampa and Orlando, but I've seen others
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Lib and let die posted:whether by some arbitrary poverty cap based on 1950's economic data or one's desire or ability to have a child Is this calling out the child tax credit?
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Lib and let die posted:Means testing is a hell of a thing to be put through. Every time the democrats means test aid - whether by some arbitrary poverty cap based on 1950's economic data or one's desire or ability to have a child, they leave a struggling person behind. Every time the democrats leave struggling people behind, some nonzero portion of those people swear off the democrats. They'd rather a hundred people starve than a single person get a free meal they don't "deserve". It sucks!
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