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Welcome to November in the US, its Turkey Month. This space is going to be updated later, but for now this is replacing USNews, it remains largely focused on US News and Current Events discussion. It will be refreshed each month. This thread is running in Slow Mode to help enable stronger discussion. Some basic rules for now: - Try to keep it on topic, if the topic is heavily detailed and/or debated, consider taking a look at D&D New Thread rules and making it its own thread. This will not be enforced unless its distracting from actual discussion - Keep it civil. US politics suck, but we don't need to get down to name calling here. - When you share tweets or news, link the full article being discussed if it isn't, and comment on what your found interesting about it. Be sure to consider your source and if they're worth listening to before posting. - You are allowed to advertise any thread that is applicable to US Politics in this thread We'll try to keep a running thread of current and previous events in this post. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Nov 2, 2021 |
# ¿ Nov 1, 2021 14:52 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 22:35 |
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Lib and let die posted:I will request politely, once, that you keep your words in your own mouth. I'm fully capable of speaking for my own motivations, and if I wanted your words in my mouth I'd slap them out of yours and scoop them up out of the dirt myself. Could we not do this?
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2021 13:34 |
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TulliusCicero posted:Is there a Virginia election thread? I didn't see a specific one for it in D&D. I can start one up or you can, but yeah that's gonna be a big conversation.
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2021 17:10 |
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Virginia Election Thread is live: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3983727
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2021 17:33 |
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CommieGIR posted:Virginia Election Thread is live: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3983727
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2021 17:34 |
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St. Paul Minnesota just passed Rent Control last night https://twitter.com/MNReformer/status/1455750594887618565?s=20 So another bit of good news among the shitshow.
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2021 15:48 |
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Kraftwerk posted:It's going to be DeSantis, not Trump for 2024. I thought tides were already turning against DeSantis?
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2021 16:17 |
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Lib and let die posted:To be fair, an internet forum with the steep barrier to access of probably isn't the best place to openly talk about direct action against the state. Thank you for this post, and entirely accurate.
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2021 20:38 |
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:Everybody who votes for a Republican is a Nazi, and everyone who votes for a Democrat is a sexual predator. Now that we've cleared that up, why don't we move on? Yes, please do.
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# ¿ Nov 8, 2021 17:27 |
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Eric Cantonese posted:Is there a way that anti-DUI might be like lane keep assist? Or basically some alarm blaring at you to pull over if you're too erratic? Drunks, famous for listening to warning systems. I don't think its a tech solution that'll resolve this.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2021 17:42 |
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AmiYumi posted:I’m sure these systems, if implemented*, won’t be as notoriously buggy as current systems that disable your car until you pay for expensive repairs only a single company can do. Nor will the cost of this nanny-state poo poo get passed right onto the consumer, with a hefty upcharge because they can, would the auto industry ever do such a thing?? Yeah this entire discussion is just Tech Nightmares, especially for me as someone in Cybersecurity.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2021 19:22 |
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Every week is a new infrastructure week.
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# ¿ Nov 9, 2021 19:38 |
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This judge is something else, how the hell is this allowable?
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2021 18:40 |
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Enigma89 posted:I kinda wish we had a Rittenhouse trial thread but not wish it enough to make a high effort OP. Eh, there's a couple Rittenhouse threads and they are not going well elsewhere in the forums.
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2021 19:17 |
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Harold Fjord posted:I'm sure the judge is a chud but things like "you can't say someone is a victim without establishing legally whether they were victimized, which is this intent of this trial" are perfectly ordinary and in other circumstances we'd be outraged if it was allowed. I don't have the link offhand but a Prosecutor and Defense attorney confirmed this is actually commonplace. Doesn't make it right, given our hellscape of a Justice System...
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2021 19:34 |
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Everybody is an Alpha male until they become Beta males on the stand. Also I cringed making this joke.
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2021 00:39 |
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So a memo justifying Trump's firing of Defense Secretary Esper dropped and....wow, its a read https://twitter.com/jonkarl/status/1458449906176245763?s=20
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2021 04:58 |
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Pervis posted:He wants nukes and is going to gently caress with oil prices if it will get them. Getting Trump back means getting nuclear tech transfers. I don't think its that. I think he really is just that petty. This is a man who held his family in a hotel, effectively in prison, till they gave him what he wanted, and massacred a journalist because he dared to speak about him. Nuclear tech is nice, but this is the actions of a petty, spited monarch.
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2021 20:05 |
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:No poo poo, all the more reasons people should not make posts justifying it as no big deal like that guy did That's not what they did? They said this is fairly standard for what happens with weapons sales? Address their point, not attack the poster for accurately describing the mad house we live in.
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2021 21:39 |
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:Well personally I think it's hosed up to frame the US government's continued military support of a regime engaged in active genocide as a ho-hum concession to realpolitik That's not what they said at all though, so maybe stop reading into it that much. Please point where they justified the active genocide rather than just called it "Business As Usual" which it is, right or wrong. And by they I mean the specific poster. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Nov 11, 2021 |
# ¿ Nov 11, 2021 22:02 |
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Andenno posted:I think it's fair to challenge this statement: They are not endorsing it, they are saying that's how it is. Its a stretch to suddenly say they endorse it. And as a mod I'm not going to read it like that. This feels like an attempt to catch a poster in something they didn't say. Move on.
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2021 22:26 |
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DragQueenofAngmar posted:This is kind of an absurd ruling to make in this thread imo. It is a near-constant occurrence here that someone criticizing the democrats’ electoral strategies or policies on offer is immediately replied to with some variant of “oh so I guess the republicans would be better huh? Seems you don’t really care about minorities, very revealing of you” and that’s apparently fine, but reading agreement into a statement like “it’s pointless for the US to not sell weapons to Saudi Arabia because they’d get them somewhere else anyway” is a shocking attack on that posters morals. Why is one assumption tolerated, while the other precipitates an official ruling that assuming this is wrong and unfair? I don’t see the distinction here. The problem is it getting reported as "genocide justification" which is not what it is, and reading into people's posts (which the poster came back and clarified) to set traps for them is really lovely. This gotcha level poo poo is petty and stupid. If you believe a poster is saying something, ask them. Don't go straight to the accusations.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2021 00:23 |
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hobbez posted:Seems like he still has the right to claim self defense, based on that definition. Going out of his way by travelling across state, to seek conflict, and then murdering people because you felt threatened in a conflict area, is not self-defense.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2021 03:45 |
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hobbez posted:I initially posted in this thread because I thought there was a strong case to be made that Rittenhouse had redeemed his right to self defense in light of the statutes referenced in a post by another individual. No one has really countered that claim in any substantial way responding to the fact that Rittenhouse was: in flight while being pursued by two individuals, one of which fired a bullet in his general direction. I wouldn't call these facts "weak counter-arguments". That's what accelerated the whole mess. The first shooting victim, yes, it appears he hadn't actually made contact with Rittenhouse in the footage, but he was DEFINITELY chasing him and I don't think it's unreasonable for Rittenhouse to believe his life was in danger especially in lieu of the gunshot. Rittenhouse further testified the man had told him he was going to kill him. He went seeking trouble, found it, and reacted poorly to the environment, murdering two people. That is not self-defense.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2021 15:25 |
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Push El Burrito posted:In a world of George Zimmermans it apparently is. Just follow people you don't like with your gun, antagonize them, and shoot them, and it's all legal. I think its universally accepted that Zimmerman was a miscarriage of justice, especially with what he's said post trial. And yeah, I get what you are saying, what counts as self-defense in this hellworld of a justice system is warped beyond reason.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2021 15:33 |
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lil poopendorfer posted:People define Nazi differently, some people in this thread called Trump voters Nazis. To me, that's insane. The Proud Boys are, however, Nazi adjacent and for all intents and purposes, Violent Fascists. We're not going to rehabilitate them here. Regarde Aduck posted:i see the 'proud boys aren't nazis' stuff in cspam as well and i'd love to know where the rehabilitation energy is coming from, and if the proud boys themselves know they're not nazis. Let's not encourage cross forums drama, please.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2021 16:15 |
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The worst submarine posted:Your honor, the defendant was acting in self-defense. He was posting jokes in D&D when a mod replied to him, clearly showing intent to probate or worse. Yes he may have acquired the jokes illegally from twitter, and maybe he was looking for some lulz in a 2-star thread. But, as everyone knows, all mods are bastards. Bitch had it coming. Its funny, but knock it off, thanks.
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2021 16:23 |
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NYT going to bat for O'Keefe and Project Veritas https://twitter.com/MarkMazzettiNYT/status/1458941978117386246?s=20 Its pretty vomit inducing. Going to the level of calling O'Keefe a 'coworker' and taking Veritas videos at face value as "News" and "Reporting"
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2021 17:37 |
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mango sentinel posted:Idk if that was confirmed so much as it was impossible to establish it has crossed borders. How is that possible? He was there, with the gun, how can that not be positive confirmation?
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2021 17:33 |
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:No I'm saying you're so desperate to defend the Dems that you're making up absurd counterfactuals that have absolutely no relation to reality How is that a counterfactual?
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2021 19:11 |
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Bannon thinks Biden is just another WoW dungeon raid.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2021 19:33 |
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Vitalsigns, the Biden tweet was in response to Trump claiming Biden would do those things, you really are making a big claim that isn't help up by that tweet. Knock it off.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2021 21:34 |
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LionArcher posted:this is 100% true. Look at general twitter, and plenty of the (I will die if I get covid you all suck for forcing us to stay inside) crowd from spring of 2020 are now going to bars and posting poo poo like "gay bars rock!" without masks on, because they got their shots. Covid is over, in terms of people caring. But most of the deaths are unvaccinated people who are not likely to be doing anything preventative like vaccines or masks, which is the bigger issue, not people who are complying with medical best practices.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2021 22:36 |
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The Mattybee posted:I already explained this to you, VitalSigns. "Didn't lock down" is not the same as "Critical of President Trump for LOCKING DOWN TOO MUCH". Just because you really want me to have said something I didn't say, doesn't mean I did say that. Can we not bring up people's user history when debating? Thanks. We all have skeletons in our rap sheet closet.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2021 22:40 |
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Yeah, it just got too slap fighty. I don't think anybody is going to find middle ground on that topic.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2021 22:53 |
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AmiYumi posted:I’ve asked this before to silence and probations, but when did basic research and pattern recognition become such a no-no in D&D? Rap sheets and post histories are useful indicators of who is trolling a thread for the umpteenth time and about to get another sixer vs who is worth responding to seriously. Yes but use it with the report button, not as part of your debate.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2021 14:31 |
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We are not doing a Rittenhouse thread because: 1. The trial is going poorly 2. In GBS it was an absolutely shitshow 3. Nobody started one here.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2021 17:17 |
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Harold Fjord posted:There's not a D&D thread but mostly were all on the same page as one another and the cspammers and it's the only current event that matters right now. BBb isn't going anywhere soon. Yeah nobody is going to call anyone out for discussing Rittenhouse in the CE thread, for sure. If someone wants to make a Rittenhouse thread, they can.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2021 17:20 |
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Cranappleberry posted:reposting from the rittenhouse thread: Worth noting this is how his Defense Attorney is closing the trial https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1460364430034751495?s=20 Dr. Red Ranger posted:This article makes an important point, and I'd like to add that it isn't just doctors and nurses feeling this at big institutions. Pharmacy was already in a destructive race to the bottom before Covid, and our corporate oligopoly running it has only made things immensely worse. Everyone is exhausted, almost everyone I know from cashiers to techs to pharmacists in the half of the state I cover has caught covid by now, our staffing is cut, our lunches cut, our hours expanded, our responsibilities ballooned and people are going to the hospital with cardiac events from the stress. CVS killed a pharmacist by refusing to let her leave while experiencing a goddamn heart attack- I've got people here having to stay home because they've had aneurysms, or shown up to work with a BP of 190/110. I found out the pelvic pain I worked with over the summer was a kidney infection I developed while working too long without getting to sit or hydrate enough, which isn't a surprise because several of our pharmacies operate 8a-9p with one pharmacist and don't even have bathrooms. Yeah, between people who burned out, nurses and doctors who died from covid, and those who are just tired of the abuse, its going to get a lot worse.
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# ¿ Nov 16, 2021 18:55 |
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# ¿ May 9, 2024 22:35 |
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News out of the Blizzard/Activision Sexual Harassment fiaso: Its getting worse https://twitter.com/KirstenGrind/status/1460641844346298371?s=20 Their CEO went to bat for an exec accused of sexual harassment, threatening to have the accuser killed.
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