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selec posted:Fetterman running an ad that’s just the picture of Bill and Hill at Don and Melania’s wedding, with his voiceover: We just had a primary in Ohio that tested how popular dems making GBS threads on other dems was. This is masturbatory nonsense.
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Majorian posted:You had a primary in Ohio showing how much of an impact dark money can have on an off-year primary actually. Turns out, it's enough to swing that primary. Nina Turner had the money advantage, more than twice over in fact.
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Dec 1, 2021 00:43
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Majorian posted:I noticed that you didn't respond to me pointing out that Brown's campaign was buoyed by dark money. Did you mean to ignore that point? Or does it just not bother either of you? Because it definitely seems like a not-great commentary on Democratic primaries. Is Dark Money magic? Does it get +10% to mind controls spells? Nina Turner had more money and more control over how that money got spent. If people didn't like the fact that she compared Biden to a bowl of poo poo, it wasn't because she was outspent.
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Dec 1, 2021 00:56
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This thread makes me miserable. The Left is never going to to make decent headway if they pretend to exist in a world where everyone already agrees with them and only malign forces keep them from being ascendant. :edit: I think about this particular article a lot. https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/beautiful-losers quote:But when it comes to practical politics, melancholia is not always a helpful disposition. Conditioned by history to expect defeat—to see it as inevitable, the product of malevolent forces beyond our control—we welcome its arrival with something like relief. There is comfort in this sense of fated doom. We lost not because we did something wrong, but because we did something right in a world that’s wrong. When we acknowledge the awesome might and baleful intentions of our enemies, when we point our fingers at the traitors in our midst, what we seek is not a clear-eyed reckoning of the battlefield, but freedom from guilt for failing to win. Lurking behind our dour pessimism is, at times, a desire to evade accountability for our own mistakes. 7c Nickel fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Dec 1, 2021 |
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Dec 1, 2021 01:13
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Because you're doomed to failure if you refuse to engage with the world as it exists. We trot out "Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak." so often it has its own smiley, but we neglect the line after it "Fascist governments are condemned to lose wars because they are constitutionally incapable of objectively evaluating the force of the enemy." This was started because selec had a stupid fantasy that a big tough traditionally masculine man could unite the country by making GBS threads on the dems. The truth is that most Democrats LIKE the Democrats. Refusing to acknowledge this means you're going to lose and the only way that makes sense is if you don't mind losing because you're going to retreat to “the persecuted suffer because of their goodness”. 7c Nickel fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Dec 1, 2021 |
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Majorian posted:The DMFI PAC money wasn't the only dark money that flowed into Brown's campaign; you'd know that if you had read the article that you just posted there (which is the same one I posted earlier). I'd be far more willing to accept that the residents of the 11th district liked Brown better if it weren't an extremely low-turnout election. 76,844 total voters, who were disproportionately white in a heavily black district of 705,659 people, does not strike me as a particularly representative sample of the district. You're providing an example even as you deny it. Brown won the areas that were heavily black and jewish while Turner did better in whiter areas.
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