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Barudak
May 7, 2007

OP kicks rear end, glad to see FF XIII was the only game to score a full 15 points.

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Barudak
May 7, 2007

Hellioning posted:

All Final Fantasies are good except for the ones that aren't.

Friend there are no bad Final Fantasies. Now the Terminal Tale franchise, boy that one is nothing but stinkers

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Final Fantasy Megathread Mystic Quest

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Limp Bizkit released a new, listenable single about being ancient dad rap now and we get a game living the LB lifestyle so really everything is coming up backwards hat wearing dads

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Jack's Dphone had goddamn better have nu-metal, rap rock, and butt rock covers of FF1 music

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Harrow posted:

Final Fantasy XII story stuff that I'm trying to refresh my memory on.

For some reason it never occurred to me to question why the statue containing the Dusk Shard in the palace at Rabanastre opens up automatically to reveal the stone to Vaan. Combined with Vaan also seeing the visions of Rasler that the Occuria show to Ashe, is it meant to be implied that he might also be descended from Raithwall?

On one hand, based purely on how historical conqueror steppe nomads tend to go its probably easier to identify who isn't related to Raithwall. The point of that scene is different though the full context isn't clear until later when Vaan puts it together. The occuria are just looking for someone who will use the shards to do terrible things to put history in motion the way the Occuria want. At that point both Vaan and Ashe are viable candidates. Soon, when Vaan rejects his revenge quest they'll stop appearing to him and he'll discuss that with Ashe at the Steppe village which is like, the single most important plot scene in the game and why Vaan is not just replaceable in the story like people claim

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Last Celebration posted:

FFX doesn’t have a game-spanning scavenger hunt minigame though? I feel like id probably have replayed it by now if it did…

It does, it just makes it a huge pain in the rear end to participate in if you miss it.

FFIX may be just as good as all other final fantasies but chocobo hot and cold leaves me without the hot

Barudak
May 7, 2007

pretty soft girl posted:

All ff story sequences are bad and deserve to be mashed through, that's why 5 is the best

Stone Blizaga Facts

Barudak
May 7, 2007

mandatory lesbian posted:

Im here to kiss chaos

Hrm yes, the kiss of death, a fine maneuver

Barudak
May 7, 2007

jokes posted:

I’m not joking they need to pixelize/demake every FF

Pixel Demake FFXIII assets have already been partially made!

Barudak
May 7, 2007

FFXIII had the best job system

Barudak
May 7, 2007

HD DAD posted:

I regularly forget Irvine exists. Does he have any characterization after the orphanage revelation?

He leaves a porn mag for squall to find during the concert scene.

Thats, uh, I think it

Barudak
May 7, 2007

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

They should get good writers for it instead.

As much as I like eternals cause its hella pro-abortion it is a messy and badly written film

Barudak
May 7, 2007

And if you get certain classes, like samurai, you can beat absolutely anything the game throws at you with zero thought required.

I'd still not recommend a 4JF for a first playthrough.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Lady Radia posted:

Is there a preferred way to play FFT that avoids some of its warts? Is just War of the Lions solid enough?

War of the Lions will improve the game a lot outside of missing the few accidentally really really good dialog everyone has already quoted at you*. It will not fix the game's actual, like, mechanics so you know still expect to either use a guide or get ready to get kidney punched over and over again starting by the second or third battle as you either fall in love with the obtuse mechanics or drop out.

*To be clear, you will want a patched version of War of the Lions if using the PSP as a base, the Phone Version runs fine

Note: I think FFT is a bad game and one of the bottom to carry the branding because its systems are such a mess and its difficulty so uneven so you probably take that into account as you weigh my thoughts

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Note: Getting Ninjas is still a grind and there are multiple fights in the game where your ninjas can get absolutely wrecked before they can get anywhere near the enemy or the AI decides it would like you to just lose now, thank you.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Its not a mandatory level requirement but in Dragon Quest 8 fighting the jester boss before and after hitting level 25 is like beyond told to cross a field covered in barbwire on foot and then being told to do that but you can now ride in a tank.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

FF12 is not a very good game, but its not the worst Final Fantasy, which we all agree is Final Fantasy Tactics, which itself, is better than Baldur's Gate.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Gaius Marius posted:

14 is the worst final fantasy

Really? I had a pretty fun time with it until 2.0 launched

Barudak
May 7, 2007

I wish TZA allowed you to play with the original grid. Thats its one remaining flaw other than all the other flaws and the goddamn steal gambit

Barudak
May 7, 2007

That looks so good I wish I liked FFIX more

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Yeah Gil Toss absolutely rules and is how I crushed everything in my FJF run

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Bardeh posted:

In FFXII, how long is it until my melee characters (most of my party) can actually do anything except auto attacks? I'm around 4 hours in, just went into the Mines, and apart from Steal and First Aid it's just auto attacks. I have been to the Techniks shops but couldn't see anything.

Uh... I've got some bad news for you vis a vis techniks and how often you use them. Melee people melee, its DnD 1.0 here in Ivalice

Edit: I seriously think the only technik I ever used was the one that lets melee attacks go long distance for the few flying bosses in the game, and even then late game you can just magic or use ranges melee

Barudak fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Nov 21, 2021

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Bardeh posted:

Really? No cool AoE attacks, stuns, knockdowns, stuff like that? Right now I have my gambits set up so that Fran (White Mage) autoattacks and heals at <50%, and everyone else is just 'autoattack nearest baddie'. I have bought a ton of gambits at the shop but I don't really see much need to play around with the system yet. I get that I'm still early in the game, but I thought things would start to open up a little by now.

I have good news and bad news.

The bad news is, no, thats pretty much it. The good news is, congrats you've already got your optimal for 90% of the game gambit setup!

Barudak
May 7, 2007

If you like holding the movement stick in the direction of foes, FFXII has a lot of directions and foes.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Bardeh posted:

Oh. Well this is kind of a bummer because I've been enjoying the story, the setting and the world quite a lot. I've been...enduring the combat in the hope that it would start to get more interesting.

If on PC there is 0 harm in cheating yourself max stats+esuna and just automating your way to the end. The story is surprisingly neat but theres not much and it gets s t r e t c h e d to support the gameplays slow pace

Barudak
May 7, 2007

I've never really liked Amano artwork, so I'm biased as hell and extremely pro sprites.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

sponges posted:

I know 13 isn’t well regarded but I’m having fun with it so far. The battle/paradigm system owns.

XIII is a really good battle system stapled onto a really bad plot and upgrade system.

It is, also apparently, my most played game on Xbox in...2018 so hrm

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Pixel Remaster 3 is the only one I can bring myself to recommend since all the others are missing chunks of content.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Its content thats all (except FFIV) optional end/postgame stuff. Theres no reason not to include it (again arguable for ffiv as it actually changes the plot) and they've been part of the game longer than they haven't (again except ffiv) so its also sort of a baseline expectation for me across the many rebuys I've done over the years.

Its also ruder than hell they appeared to have delisted the non-pr versions so if you did want them and don't already own them now you can't have them.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

jokes posted:

Is Fantasian any good? And by good I mean “like a final fantasy”

Short Answer: No

Long Answer: The 7th Guest and I both played through the game at the same time and its perplexingly bad. It is bad in a way that is carefully, handcraftingly and lovingly designed to be bad and its all the more infuriating because it hides its true nature behind about 40% of the games total content. It is a strange game where I absolutely hope it was a success but that the lead designers and producers don't get invited back for the sequel.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Elephant Ambush posted:

OK I hit a wall in FF5. Twintania. gently caress this boss.

I scanned him and he's weak to Holy so I bonk him with Excalibur and cast Holy on him which does 9999 except that apparently he always counters Holy with Mega Flare twice and wipes my party before they get to act again. What the gently caress. I equipped Coral Rings and Flame Rings but I only have 2 of each so 2 people always die but even when I'm just hitting him with Excalibur eventually he does Giga Flare before I can kill him and wipes me. What the gently caress.

If throwing money at it or reflecting its own spells into its big stupid face isn't an option, you can also just stall until it goes into gigaflare mode and then spam odin and other instant death moves on it.

Note: all mu advice for the game is going to hinge on throwing money at it because by god did I rely on samurai

Barudak
May 7, 2007

The only bad numbered FF games are, in no particular order; I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XI, XII, XIII, XIV, XV, and presumably soon XVI

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Inspector Gesicht posted:

But who the gently caress was responsible for this?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWtpAzbEnc8

Thats is the singer of Deep Purple, as well.

Blue Dragon is a messy, messy FFV inspired game

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Eternity is not the problem with Blue Dragon, its a song for a much better game.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Vikar Jerome posted:

soon as i fix the fan sound on my 360 or get the later slim e model, im gonna play that loving game and listen to that soundtrack that owns.

Blue Dragon is back compatible on the Bone and Series consoles where iirc, it runs slightly improved as well.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

multijoe posted:

It's weird Blue Dragon & Lost Odyssey are still stuck in XB360 purgatory, they'd both be obvious candidates for remasters and Lost Odyssey particularly for all intents and purposes is a genuine Final Fantasy with the numbers filled off

As I feel compelled to point out every time, they absolutely aren't as they're playable on 3/4ths of Microsoft's consoles and got slightly tweaked updated versions (removing disc changes). Since they're partnership it might be hard to make them streamable in the future to PC, but its not impossible that this will happen too for PC/mobile device only holdouts.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Evil Fluffy posted:

Fixing a 360 is worth it because you can still play harmony of despair with friends if you all have game pass or whatever THAT is a game that needs a rerelease on modern consoles and pc.

They had it as a game with gold a few months ago and still dead due to Konami's horrible DLC practice

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Relax Or DIE posted:

LO is a great game that, like many jrpgs, would benefit from a rerelease with a speed up toggle added

It needs a turn off random encounters, real real real bad

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Barudak
May 7, 2007

Twelve by Pies posted:

One important thing to note about Old: it can be cured with Esuna, but curing it won't restore your stat loss. And if you're good at putting out big damage numbers, then yeah, Old isn't usually a problem. The one fight where Old is usually a major issue is Soul Cannon. The Launches will inflict Old with their missiles, if you don't have any lightning skills or weapons to take Soul Cannon out quick, you'll see your damage drop pretty significantly over the course of the fight.

Let me tell you about how money solves literally all your problems in ffv...

Edit: Thats the boss that taught me samurais were extremely good

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