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Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

So, next up we have

Andijan Valley, home to the city of Andijon. A trade centre since 400 BC, it was nearly leveled by an earthquake in 1902, and built up as an industrial city under Soviet rule





quote:

The city is perhaps best known as the birthplace of Babur who, following a series of setbacks, finally succeeded in laying the basis for the Mughal dynasty in the Indian Subcontinent and became the first Mughal emperor.

quote:

Manufactured goods produced in the city include chemicals, domestic appliances, electronics, foodstuffs, furniture, plows, pumps, shoes, spare parts for farming machines, various engineering tools, and wheelchairs. Andijan is also home to over 50 international companies, five of which produce spare parts for GM Uzbekistan.

quote:

On 13 May 2005, Uzbekistan's military opened fire on a mass of people who were protesting against poor living conditions and corrupt government. The estimates of those killed on 13 May range from 187, the official count of the government, to several hundred. A defector from the SNB alleged that 1,500 were killed. The bodies of many of those who died were allegedly hidden in mass graves following the massacre.
:catstare:





Ah, a hotel - the Bog'Ishamol. Hundreds of pictures, you say? Let's take a look.






They apparently cater for special occasions:





Which means food and people:














And for some reason this is tagged at the hotel.


There's more to look at in this district, I'll see what more I can dig up.

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kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER
it's uzbekistanimation!

ilovebeersooomuch
May 23, 2014



This is pretty cool, but I would loving demolish that food

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Still in Andijan city proper:

















And another place:







Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

ilovebeersooomuch posted:

This is pretty cool, but I would loving demolish that food

I know, so much of the food here looks really good.
The interior decor was what made me want to post in the first place, but the food is becoming the main attraction as I look around the city.

kntfkr
Feb 11, 2019

GOOSE FUCKER

ewwwwwwww

I'll take a crab juice

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

As for what we're doing with this thread when I'm done with "look at this random place in Uzbekistan", uh.
I want to do a little dive into Maya-Suu just over the border in Kyrgyzstan just to explain how I ended up viewing food pictures on a random hotel in Uzbekistan, but after that I'll be happy to try and do something similar for other random corners of the earth with decent google maps coverage.

Valko
Sep 18, 2015

How old is that can of pepsi!?

ilovebeersooomuch
May 23, 2014



Come on, its meat on a sword. ON A SWORD!

Yaldabaoth
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth

drat, this looks like eating it really will turn you into a sexual tyrannosaurus.

Xaintrailles
Aug 14, 2015

:hellyeah::histdowns:

Computer viking posted:

quote:

On 13 May 2005, Uzbekistan's military opened fire on a mass of people who were protesting against poor living conditions and corrupt government. The estimates of those killed on 13 May range from 187, the official count of the government, to several hundred. A defector from the SNB alleged that 1,500 were killed. The bodies of many of those who died were allegedly hidden in mass graves following the massacre.
Fill the streets.

Grill the meats.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Right - let's finish up the Andijan valley first, with a little visit to
Asaka

quote:

Asaka underwent rapid industrialization during the Soviet era. Currently, it is the second biggest industrial city in Andijan Region, the first being Andijan. Asaka is home to the first automobile assembly plant in Central Asia, namely UzAutoMotors (formerly UzDaewooAuto).

Going by the map, it looks like the corridor between Asaka and Andijan is filling in; I bet they'll be a a single urban area a a few decades.









And what's the food like?













tractor man
Nov 11, 2021


Oldik! Sog'liq uchun! To you as well strung out uzbekistani cowboys

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

So my next post will be slightly delayed due to windows 11 and drafting it in an unsaved notepad window.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

I feel like I should explain how I ended up browsing restaurants in Uzbekistan.

I was reading about radiological disasters, as one does, and noticed one that was new to me:
The 1958 Mailuu-Suu tailings dam failure.

quote:

The 1958 Mailuu-Suu tailings dam failure in the industrial town of Mailuu-Suu, (Kyrgyz: Майлуусуу), Jalal-Abad Region, southern Kyrgyzstan, caused the uncontrolled release of 600,000 cubic metres (21,000,000 cu ft) of radioactive waste.

The event caused several direct casualties and widespread environmental damage. It was the single worst incident in a region of arid, mountainous western Kyrgyzstan, with a collection of shuttered Soviet-era uranium mining and processing sites, a legacy of extensive radioactive waste dumps, and a history of flooding and mudslides.

On April 16, 1958, with mining and processing plants still operational, a combination of poor design, neglect, heavy rainfall and a reported earthquake caused the #7 tailings dam at Mailuu-Suu to fail. About 50% of the entire volume of the dam flowed into the swift Mailuu-Suu River, only 30 metres (98 ft) downhill from the breach. The waste then spread about 40 kilometres (25 mi) downstream across the national border into Uzbekistan then into the heavily populated Fergana Valley. The Mailuu-Suu River is a tributary of the Kara Darya, used for agricultural irrigation in the valley.

Mailuu-Suu was found to be one of the 10 most polluted sites in the world in a study published in 2006 by the Blacksmith Institute.

Annual spring flooding and the lack of maintenance pose a continued threat of further releases of radioactive material. In 1994, a new landslide temporarily dammed the Mailuu-Suu River. In 2002 a flood caused by a mudslide nearly submerged a tailings pit.

So, let's take a look at

Mailuu-Suu, Kyrgyzstan

quote:

Mailuusuu (Kyrgyz: Майлуусуу) is a mining town in the Jalal-Abad Region of southern Kyrgyzstan. Its area is 120 square kilometres (46 sq mi), and its resident population was 22,853 in 2009. It has been economically depressed since the fall of the Soviet Union. From 1946 to 1968 the Zapadnyi Mining and Chemical Combine in Mailuu-Suu mined and processed more than 10,000 short tons (9,100 t) of uranium ore for the Soviet nuclear program. Uranium mining and processing is no longer economical, leaving much of the local population of about 20,000 without meaningful work. The town was classified as one of the Soviet government's secret cities, officially known only as "Mailbox 200".


It's not too far from Adijan:

The Uzbek/Kyrgyz border runs at the foot at the mountains: Uzbekistan has basically got the entire flat and fertile valley floor, while Kyrgyzstan starts at the foot of the mountains.





I believe the lightbulb refers to the Mayluu-Suuyskiy Lampovyy Zavod - as far as I can tell, it's a lightbulb or lamp factory.



Uranium mine tailings or not, the surrounding area is genuinely quite beautiful:








Just to start somewhere, these are all tagged at the Lenin Monument in the middle of town:








There is no street view, but some 360 panoramas. Given the store concentration, I think this is effectively the main street:



Starting from one end, there's Beeline (cellphone carrier, I think?)



The Venetsiya store:




A "GameZone computer club" (no photos)

Magazin Tvoy Dom:





"Teenager" clothing store:



Teknomir: (My Russian is not all that, but I think "mir" can be "world" - so "Techworld")






Lots of pictures, and a perfectly reasonable selection of electrical and electronic stuff. Notably absent: Computers and phones. I wonder what that's about; they sell keyboards and mice.

Heading a bit further out, there's the
Magazin "A4":



Fatima Market:





Maybe they sell phones, along with the accessories? :iiam:

What else?
The school is kind of nice:




The houses are varied:







I was wondering if this had anything to do with the uarnium mining, but it's apparently a former insulation factory:




("Izolat" - as far as I can tell the brand still exists and has factories in Russia).

I did not find any restaurants, though. Searching specifically for restaurants required zooming out - and that took me down to Adijan.

As for the Uranium mining, I didn't see anything too obvious, except some structures in the hillside that could be anything. There are pictures out there in reports from environmental agencies, but I don't really want to dive too deep into the murky leftovers of Soviet industry.

It's an interesting little place - if mildly depressing given how I found it.

Anyway, I think the next town will be in South America.

Computer viking fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Nov 17, 2021

ilovebeersooomuch
May 23, 2014



Got dang the world is such a cool place

Yup I really did just write that

SavageMessiah
Jan 28, 2009

Emotionally drained and spookified

Toilet Rascal

Seems the doobster's influence stretches far beyond Alabama....

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
Nice thread OP. Here's some of my finds from Ireland












ilovebeersooomuch
May 23, 2014



Aardvark! posted:

Nice thread OP. Here's some of my finds from Ireland

not bad, but do they have anyone in a Punisher shirt holding a SpongeBob balloon????


ilovebeersooomuch
May 23, 2014



wait, hold up...! Holy poo poo!!!

How it started:


How it's going

ilovebeersooomuch
May 23, 2014



Also, is that pepper on that poor stout?

tractor man
Nov 11, 2021

I WENT THE WHOLE HOG

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Aardvark! posted:

Nice thread OP. Here's some of my finds from Ireland


That's a solid selection of sturdy Irishmen.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Next up: Somewhere with less uranium, fewer political massacres, and a landscape that looks weirdly familiar despite being about as far from me as you could possibly go.

Ushuaia, capital of the Department of Ushuaia and the Province of Tierra del Fuego, Antártida e Islas del Atlántico Sur.
The exact extent of the province is a touchy political subject: Going by Argentinian claims, the "Islas del Antlántico Sur" includes the Falklands.

quote:

The word Ushuaia comes from the Yaghan language: ush and waia ("bay" or "cove") and means "deep bay" or "bay to background".
The name is often pronounced "u-sua-ia" (Spanish pronunciation: [uˈswaʝa]), an exception to the orthographic rules of Spanish, since the 's' forms a syllable with the following 'u' despite the intervening 'h'. The pronunciation "Usuaía" (accented on the 'i') is erroneous: the prosodic accent is on the first 'a', which is why the word is written without an accent mark.

quote:

The Selk’nam Indians, also called the Ona, first arrived in Tierra del Fuego about 10,000 years ago. The southern group of people indigenous to the area, the Yaghan (also known as Yámana), who occupied what is now Ushuaia, lived in continual conflict with the northern inhabitants of the island.
Both groups are reduced to ~1500 people and both languages are down to a single speaker.

quote:

Ushuaia claims the title of world's southernmost city. Besides being an administrative center, it is a light industrial port and tourist hub.
In addition to being a vacation destination for local and international tourists, Ushuaia is also the key access point to the Southern Ocean, including subantarctic islands such as South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands and Antarctic islands such as the South Orkney Islands and the South Shetland Islands. Its commercial pier is the major port of departure in the world for tourist and scientific expeditions to the Antarctic Peninsula.
This is how I heard about the place: I idly wondered about visiting Antarctica, and this is by far the main port for tourist cruises there.

quote:

In 1873 Julio Argentino Roca, who later served as Argentine President twice, promoted the establishment of a penal colony for re-offenders, in an effort to secure permanent residents from Argentina and to help establish Argentine sovereignty over all of Tierra del Fuego.
In 1896 the prison received its first inmates. A separate military prison opened in 1903 at the nearby Puerto Golondrina. The two prisons merged in 1910, and that combined complex still stands today. Thus, during the first half of the 20th century, the city centered around the prison. The prison was intended for repeat offenders and serious criminals, following the example of the British in Tasmania and the French in Devil's Island. Escape from Tierra del Fuego was similarly difficult, although two prisoners managed to escape into the surrounding area for a few weeks. The prison population thus became forced colonists and spent much of their time building the town with timber from the forest around the prison. They also built a railway to the settlement, now a tourist attraction known as the End of the World Train (Tren del Fin del Mundo), the southernmost railway in the world.

The prison operated until 1947, when President Juan Perón closed it by executive order in response to the many reports of abuse and unsafe practices.

We'll get back to that train.

quote:

A popular sport in Ushuaia is ice hockey, and low temperatures all year long make the city a perfect spot for practicing it outdoors. In 2010 the city opened an outdoor short track and ice hockey Olympic-size ice rink (30 by 60 metres, 98 by 197 ft),[39] the first of its kind in South America. After this Argentina became the first South American nation to be upgraded from affiliate to associate member status of the International Ice Hockey Federation (IIHF).

On December 29, 2009, the first same-sex couple to marry in Latin America were married in Ushuaia. Although the Civil Code of Argentina at that time did not allow marriage between people of the same sex, Governor Fabiana Ríos issued a special decree allowing the couple to wed there. The marriage was annulled when the decree was reversed by Tierra del Fuego's judiciary, since the Civil Code did not support it. Same-sex marriage became legal nationwide in Argentina a few months later, on July 15, 2010, after the approval of a gender-neutral bill by the Argentine National Congress.
:nyan:





The department of Ushuaia is very ... wide.



So, what is this city of 57 000 people like?







Again: Rather pretty. Kind of reminds me of northern Norway - or what I've seen of Alaska.

Let's start by looking at that hideous casino at the waterfront, the Casino Club. According to tripadvisor, it has been reported permanently closed. It has a single English-language review on tripadvisor, from 2018:

catchyginger, San Diego CA posted:

Kinda Sad
We came here on a Saturday afternoon. It was pretty depressing. Very few people. All electronic gaming. No card dealers or black jack. This is similar to a road side casino you may see in Nevada. Don't waste your time.

CasinoClub posted:

Dear Kinda, We are sad about your experience. Our Card games starts about 22:00. We can only Work 24:00hs slotgames with many options. We hope you can join us some night, of you are Back in Ushuaia. All best

Right. Let's see if we can hotlink a few images from tripadvisor:





Conveniently, the exchange rate right now is exactly 100 ARS to 1 USD - and it's not because it's pegged to the USD, it was worth more last week. So at current rates, that's $1.15 for a Tequila. It seems to have been four times higher in 2018, though.

No food on tripadvisor. Let's try google:

Ah, here we go.








Let's hold off judgement for now; casino food is probably not the best way to judge a place.

However, before we look at more food: One place kept popping up in the casino pictures, so I assume it's right outside: The Belgrano / Falklands War memorial.



Google Translate posted:

Return to Falklands
Without hatred or resentment, with courage, holding the flag of the country high,
we will arrive firmly on our islands that pirates usurped one day.

Our banner is beating in the wind where the shrapnel thundered yesterday,
taking the lives of so many young people that the path of return points us.

Our beloved dead, to the Malvinas from their graves they keep custody ...
for them we will return, for their example, for the sacrifice of their shed blood.

The sky that is also Argentine has already raised the blue and white flag.
Sure, let's go with that and not "our military junta tried to start a sea war with Britain to help their flagging popularity, and it backfired".
Not a bad memorial, though. But let's get back to something a bit lighter - I think takeaway, filtered to the cheapest places.

Top of the list is Restaurante Bamboo - and it's a buffet. Excellent.

Apparently they have king crab. They're very tasty, but kind of freak me out.







No meat-on-a-sword, but it'll do.











Honestly, that seemed rather upscale for a buffet place. How about a pizza and empanada place?








I, uh, the empanadas look good, and I envy places with a selection of wine in takeaway places.

How about Frankfurt Grill & Beer, next to a remarkably steep hill?














What about Betos Lomitos, which looks like a fast food chain in a shopping centre?




I honestly just wanted to include this one to let the americans debate the qualities of their Americano. And to complain that they get to have beer with their fast food.

Continuing the takeaway track:









So, yeah. What's fascinating about the place is the weird mix of familiar and foreign I get from all the outdoor shots - I think I'll take a look at it with street view next.

Computer viking fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Nov 18, 2021

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

I like everything about it and would love to visit. Shame my Spanish is so awful right now. Thanks for sharing a place I never would have thought to investigate prior.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Big Beef City posted:

I like everything about it and would love to visit. Shame my Spanish is so awful right now. Thanks for sharing a place I never would have thought to investigate prior.

Yeah, it has a nice balance between being interestingly foreign and feeling approachable as a tourist.

brushwad
Dec 25, 2009
I can't wait for this guy's Unamericana counterpart to show up in this thread:

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

I can only hope that I'll find someone as memorable.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

brushwad posted:

I can't wait for this guy's Unamericana counterpart to show up in this thread:



Hello friend. Haven't seen you in a while.

Doll House Ghost
Jun 18, 2011



Thanks OP, I've been waiting for someone to do this thread!!

I was in South America just before corona times, and really liked it, especially Peru and the southern parts of Chile. I didn't really know a lick of Spanish beforehand but turns out, you learn pretty fast the basics if you have to. Didn't visit Ushuaia, but here are some pics from the island if Chiloé in Chile:








If you go see the penguins they have this pulley system to bring you back from the boat with dry feet:




















ilovebeersooomuch
May 23, 2014






Holy Hell :eyepop:




lol, good luck kid





strong Goro energy

ilovebeersooomuch
May 23, 2014



quote:


I honestly just wanted to include this one to let the americans debate the qualities of their Americano. And to complain that they get to have beer with their fast food.

Beef loin, eggs, cheese, pancetta, onions, bbq sauce? not a problem. Did someone look to see what the perfect drunk food for a red-blooded Murrincan is and build it? I think they did. Final beer for the night or a midday snack while on the go to the uranium mines? You bet.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012


I ran into a mudcrab the other day...

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Doll House Ghost posted:

Thanks OP, I've been waiting for someone to do this thread!!

I was in South America just before corona times, and really liked it, especially Peru and the southern parts of Chile. I didn't really know a lick of Spanish beforehand but turns out, you learn pretty fast the basics if you have to. Didn't visit Ushuaia, but here are some pics from the island if Chiloé in Chile:


Excellent, thanks. :)


(I'm somewhat tired, so I'll come back with more views of Ushuaia tomorrow.)

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT
Glory to Arstotzka.

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy


Sleestaks!

Deep Glove Bruno
Sep 4, 2015

yung swamp thang
this thread rules. dose me

ilovebeersooomuch
May 23, 2014



This thread is my own personal zen

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
You brought up Sweden in another thread so I'm looking at Sweden now because I'm an expert, as an American. :troll:

Some kind of raw meat thing?


a very wet sausage of some kind


Oh hell yeah, a buffet!









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tractor man
Nov 11, 2021

Wow you actually found the worst loving swedish buffets :(

The one with the red ball of cheese is a julbord, christmas buffet!

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