Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
the scariest phrase in the english language is 'male feminist'


they always turn out to be gross creepers. e.g. joss whedon, every goon

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Mercrom posted:

I'm very ignorant about this topic. Is there anything radical or feminist about TERFs or are they just transphobes who don't also hate cis women.
i think its already been answered in a lot of ways but yes there is, but in the second wave feministic sense. to maybe make it a little more in raw terms: the penis is evil. the penis is a symbol of oppression and patriarchy, one meant to subjugate vaginas. the penis must be destroyed.

now of course if you realize genitalia doesn't define a person, that whole thing is silly. but there are a lot of actual old 2nd-wavey feminists who see the penis moving into spaces 'they fought for'. to them it doesn't matter anything else besides the fight against the penis.

in an extremely hosed up and weird perverse sense, you can almost kind of see the sad pathway that led to it. or rather you can see that it's sad that they've been blinded by raw genitalia determinism that they can't see the greater social structures associated with oppression that have nothing to do with a penis.

of course 'terf' gets thrown out as much as 'grift' and has lost a lot of meaning. many people called terfs are just transphobes and it seems dumb to apply it as freely as it has been.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply