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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


...what about his daughter who he said he was there with? They had no bodyguard?

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Szmitten
Apr 26, 2008
My current armchair theory is the cold symptoms are not covid itself but the immune response to stop it taking in the first place and all three of us being boosted is just surpressing the virus replication to undetectable levels so we never test positive.

But then how the gently caress did I catch enough of it so fast while gently caress all was happening with my cleanliness OCD but multiple tests still say no? It's like a locked room murder mystery.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I wonder if the "weird cold" a lot of people seem to be getting now is the same as the "weird cold" quite a lot of people (including me) had in Feb/very early Mar 2020 before Covid became an acknowledged (by the PTB anyway) as much of a thing in the UK but which those of us experienced it are mostly sure it was a brand of covid?

The symptoms folk are describing do seem to be very similar.

Oh I had this one too, I was just certain it wasn't Covid because it was primarily a runny nose one day, no cough, no fevers/chills (ironically only until weeks later though), and no loss of taste/smell - but I still got 6 months of post-viral nonsense out of it.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

The data suggested that by Christmas, 50% of "colds" in the UK were actually omicron, and that it's up to 75% now. If you have a cold, it's now more likely than not you have omicron.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Tesseraction posted:

...what about his daughter who he said he was there with? They had no bodyguard?

Even his daughter is refusing to give him an alibi.

lol

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Tesseraction posted:

...what about his daughter who he said he was there with? They had no bodyguard?

So his kids have basically told him they’re not prepared to lie to cover up his diddling?

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall
It's not a weird cold as much as the first colds nearly anyone's had for two years, and they all spent that time under pretty extreme selection pressure to survive and spread with open windows, increased hygiene, and social distancing

At the start of Omicron it was probably the most common pathogen behind cold-like symptoms, but by now dozens of cold-causing viruses will be having a fantastic time of it while none of us have any immunity to them

Tesseraction posted:

The data suggested that by Christmas, 50% of "colds" in the UK were actually omicron, and that it's up to 75% now. If you have a cold, it's now more likely than not you have omicron.

Huh, I'd honestly have assumed colds would be returning in enough numbers to swing it after christmas

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I wonder if the "weird cold" a lot of people seem to be getting now is the same as the "weird cold" quite a lot of people (including me) had in Feb/very early Mar 2020 before Covid became an acknowledged (by the PTB anyway) as much of a thing in the UK but which those of us experienced it are mostly sure it was a brand of covid?

The symptoms folk are describing do seem to be very similar.

Unless it was an incredibly bizarrely mutated variant, it would still turn up on tests, though, right? The difference between now and then is that we have tests

Szmitten posted:

My current armchair theory is the cold symptoms are not covid itself but the immune response to stop it taking in the first place and all three of us being boosted is just surpressing the virus replication to undetectable levels so we never test positive.

But then how the gently caress did I catch enough of it so fast while gently caress all was happening with my cleanliness OCD but multiple tests still say no? It's like a locked room murder mystery.

I also came up with that armchair theory. Or I read it. I can't remember, it was this morning when I was feeling particularly lovely

Tesseraction posted:

The data suggested that by Christmas, 50% of "colds" in the UK were actually omicron, and that it's up to 75% now. If you have a cold, it's now more likely than not you have omicron.

Yeah. And I'm on the london outskirts, sooo

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Starting to think that Newsnight interview might've been a bad idea.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Tesseraction posted:

...what about his daughter who he said he was there with? They had no bodyguard?

I’m just speculating but it could be that he’s been told that family and people who are paid to be with him won’t count as an alibi. I know I wouldn’t trust those anyway.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Good luck digging up someone who worked in a fast food chain 20 years ago as an alibi. I have trouble recalling events from a couple of months ago.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



keep punching joe posted:

Good luck digging up someone who worked in a fast food chain 20 years ago as an alibi. I have trouble recalling events from a couple of months ago.

I wouldn't recognise the man if I just saw him in passing at work anyway - especially before this whole thing kicked off.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Sky News are having no qualms having Ian Maxwell talking about it, its on repeat every hour most of today.

Red Oktober posted:

I’m just speculating but it could be that he’s been told that family and people who are paid to be with him won’t count as an alibi. I know I wouldn’t trust those anyway.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/17/wokings-pizza-express-customers-struggle-to-remember-first-visit

There would be receipts wouldn't there? Would assume anything the Royals buy would have to be accounted for.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
Just a Prince sitting alone in a pizza express,ordering a plain cheese pizza with none of those fancy spices lest it upset his Protestant tounge.

domhal
Dec 30, 2008


0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.

keep punching joe posted:

Starting to think that Newsnight interview might've been a bad idea.

In 25 years there will be Questions about how it was arranged.

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
He can't have jalapeños as a topping due to a rare medical condition which means he can only perspire through his tongue like a dog.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
There would have to be debit card records you would have thought?

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Speaking about Colds and Covids, I was sure I saw an article that talked about this idea that the common cold would take up the spaces that Covid tries to infect and provides a temporary immunity(?) to Covid while you have it.
But I went searching and I couldn't find anything about it on Google and frankly I don't want to be spreading false medical advice during a pandemic.

But anecdotally I have seen a lot of people on social media talking about having negative Antigen tests but cold like symptoms. And the news are doing stories about the difference and similarities in symptoms between Covid and the cold.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Hello I'm a fantastically wealthy member of the aristocracy who always travels with an entourage and dines with princes and such. Anyway I was sat by myself in the corner of a high street chain pizza restaurant watching people and that's my alibi for why I'm not some sort of pervert.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
Why would he make up the pizza express thing though? Like why choose them? Can't imagine he'd even have heard of the place

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Why would he make up the pizza express thing though? Like why choose them? Can't imagine he'd even have heard of the place

Didn't Diana say she snuck out to local pizza places at times?

JoylessJester
Sep 13, 2012

I reckon and bear with me on this, that Prince Andrew might be an entitled posho who thought he was much smarter than he is.

Juche Couture
Feb 3, 2007


The Question IRL posted:

Speaking about Colds and Covids, I was sure I saw an article that talked about this idea that the common cold would take up the spaces that Covid tries to infect and provides a temporary immunity(?) to Covid while you have it.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Spangly A posted:

Huh, I'd honestly have assumed colds would be returning in enough numbers to swing it after christmas

It's got an R0 of 10 so it's basically crowding colds (R0 of 2-3) out of the market.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Jippa posted:

There would have to be debit card records you would have thought?

Royal prerogative means that they can dine on both swans and Sloppy Giuseppe pizzas for free

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Failed Imagineer posted:

Royal prerogative means that they can dine on both swans and Sloppy Giuseppe pizzas for free

okay so we just need to look in the Worst Pizzas thread to find some guy posting about having swan on his pizza and then the mods can ban him for being a nonce

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Sloppy Giuseppe sounds like one of those made-up sex acts.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Danger - Octopus! posted:

okay so we just need to look in the Worst Pizzas thread to find some guy posting about having swan on his pizza and then the mods can ban him for being a nonce

The Prince Andrew: Shredded Swan on bed of sweating cheese and press gags.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

keep punching joe posted:

Sloppy Giuseppe sounds like one of those made-up sex acts.

It's when you bring the winner of GBBO 2021 to a shuddering climax by any means necessary

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

keep punching joe posted:

He can't have jalapeños as a topping due to a rare medical condition which means he can only perspire through his tongue like a dog.

I thought reptiles cool themselves by moving to shadow.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

keep punching joe posted:

Good luck digging up someone who worked in a fast food chain 20 years ago as an alibi. I have trouble recalling events from a couple of months ago.

Eh, I still remember selling Sandi Toksvig a photo frame in like 1995. Quite a few other minor celebs came through that shop but she's the one I'd pick as the most trivial encounter I had - you do tend to remember celebrity customers when you're working a service job just because the majority of days are just so bland and repetitive, anything that out of the ordinary sticks.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jippa posted:

There would have to be debit card records you would have thought?

Nah, shops don't normally keep receipts any longer than they need to for accounting purposes - also thermal paper degrades in like 5 years, tops.

Savings Clown
May 7, 2007

We all float down here

Tesseraction posted:

It's got an R0 of 10

Omicron? Is this true?

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

The Question IRL posted:

Speaking about Colds and Covids, I was sure I saw an article that talked about this idea that the common cold would take up the spaces that Covid tries to infect and provides a temporary immunity(?) to Covid while you have it.
But I went searching and I couldn't find anything about it on Google and frankly I don't want to be spreading false medical advice during a pandemic.

But anecdotally I have seen a lot of people on social media talking about having negative Antigen tests but cold like symptoms. And the news are doing stories about the difference and similarities in symptoms between Covid and the cold.

Some common colds are actually caused by coronaviruses and there's a non-zero chance that some people have some immunity to SARS-CoV-2 as a result, but it's fairly unlikely. The immune response to a different virus *may* make it easier to fight off a simultaneous covid infection though, just because your defences are up at that point.

However I think a much more likely reason is if you catch a non-covid virus right now you're going to be way, way less likely to try and soldier through it like you would with most colds, meaning people who've caught a cold (who by definition have to be in a group more likely to be exposed to covid) are less in circulation right now, basically a very well-targeted (but very crude) NPI.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

The Question IRL posted:

Speaking about Colds and Covids, I was sure I saw an article that talked about this idea that the common cold would take up the spaces that Covid tries to infect and provides a temporary immunity(?) to Covid while you have it.
But I went searching and I couldn't find anything about it on Google and frankly I don't want to be spreading false medical advice during a pandemic.

But anecdotally I have seen a lot of people on social media talking about having negative Antigen tests but cold like symptoms. And the news are doing stories about the difference and similarities in symptoms between Covid and the cold.

The majority of coranaviruses don't target the same receptors, and multiple distinct but related viral infections in the same cell is a key part of how viruses evolve, so that's probably a no on actual immunity. As twisto said you can have an general elevated immune response from anything, really, theres some publications about the MMR vaccine giving you a few months of protection from symptomatic covid

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
An R0 of 10?? Wouldn't that mean 8 billion people infected after ~10 days? Lol

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Nah, shops don't normally keep receipts any longer than they need to for accounting purposes - also thermal paper degrades in like 5 years, tops.

Your bank account would have it though you would have thought. He could obviously say he used cash I suppose which if it was just him is credible.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/OpDeathEaters/status/601080066970378242?s=19

Wanna hear the threads brains go crack PING

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
Why's Mandelson friends with so many nonces?

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Red Oktober posted:

I’m just speculating but it could be that he’s been told that family and people who are paid to be with him won’t count as an alibi. I know I wouldn’t trust those anyway.

Are family and (presumably) a police escort not allowed to be an alibi?

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Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

keep punching joe posted:

Why's Mandelson friends with so many nonces?

HMMM WHO FUCKIN KNOWS EH

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