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Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
In this thread, we choose one work of literature absolute crap and read/discuss it over a month. If you have any suggestions of books, choose something that will be appreciated by many people, and has many avenues of discussion. We'd also appreciate if it were a work of literature complete drivel that is easily located from a local library or book shop, as opposed to ordering something second hand off the internet and missing out on a week's worth of reading. Better yet, books available on e-readers.

Resources:

Project Gutenberg - http://www.gutenberg.org

- A database of over 17000 books available online. If you can suggest books from here, that'd be the best.

SparkNotes - http://www.sparknotes.com/

- A very helpful Cliffnotes-esque site, but much better, in my opinion. If you happen to come in late and need to catch-up, you can get great character/chapter/plot summaries here.

:siren: For recommendations on future material, suggestions on how to improve the club, or just a general rant, feel free to PM the moderation team. :siren:

Past Books of the Month

[for BOTM before 2019, refer to archives]


2019:
January: Roadside Picnic by Arkady and Boris Strugatsky
February: BEAR by Marian Engel
March: V. by Thomas Pynchon
April: The Doorbell Rang by Rex Stout
May: Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman
June: 1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus by Charles C. Mann
July: The Art of Fielding by Chad Harbach
August: Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds by Charles Mackay
September: Picnic at Hanging Rock by Joan Lindsay
October: Her Body and Other Parties by Carmen Maria Machado
November: The Maltese Falcon by Dashiell Hammett
December: Moby Dick by Herman Melville

2020:
January: The Jungle by Upton Sinclair
February: WE by Yevgeny Zamyatin
March: The Autobiography of Benvenuto Cellini by Benvenuto Cellini
April: The Decameron by Giovanni Boccaccio
May: Black Lamb and Grey Falcon by Dame Rebecca West
June: The African Queen by C. S. Forester
July: The End of Policing by Alex S. Vitale
August: The Merry Adventures of Robin Hood, of Great Renown in Nottinghamshire, by Howard Pyle
September: Strange Hotel, by Eimear McBride
October:Kwaidan: Stories and Studies of Strange Things (怪談)("Ghost Stories"), by Lafcadio Hearn
November: A Libertarian Walks Into a Bear: The Utopian Plot to Liberate an American Town (And Some Bears) , by Matthew Hongoltz Hetling
December: Ignition!: An Informal History of Liquid Rocket Propellants by John Drury Clark

2021:

January: The Mark of Zorro by Johnston McCulley
February: How to Read Donald Duck by Ariel Dorfman and Armand Mattelart
March: Carrier Wave by Robert Brockway
April: The Third Policeman by Flann O'Brian
May: You Can't Win by Jack Black
June:Treasure Island by Robert Louis Stevenson
July:Can Such Things Be by Ambrose Bierce
August: Swann's Way by Marcel Proust
September:A Dreamer's Tales by Edward John Moreton Drax Plunkett, 18th Baron of Dunsany
October:We Have Always Lived in the Castle by Shirley Jackson
November:Strong Poison by Dorothy Sayers


Current:



Hogfather by Terry Pratchett

Book available here:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000W5MIGC/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

About the book

90s Cringe Rock posted:

Hell yeah Hogfather owns any time but especially around Christmas.

Cthulu Carl posted:

I liked Hogfather, but it came at a really lovely time in my life and somehow managed to hit just the right spot to start pulling me out.

quote:

Hogfather is the 20th Discworld novel by Terry Pratchett, and a 1997 British Fantasy Award nominee.[1] It was first released in 1996 and published by Victor Gollancz. It came in 137th place in The Big Read, a BBC survey of the most loved British books of all time, making it one of fifteen books by Pratchett in the Top 200.[2]

The book focuses on the absence of the Hogfather, a mythical creature akin to Father Christmas, who grants children's wishes on Hogswatchnight (December 32) and brings them presents. While Death attempts to fill in for the Hogfather, his granddaughter Susan Sto Helit tries to find and rescue the Hogfather.



About the Author

Sir Terence David John Pratchett OBE (28 April 1948 – 12 March 2015) was an English humorist, satirist, and author of fantasy novels, especially comical works.[1] He is best known for his Discworld series of 41 novels.

Pratchett's first novel, The Carpet People, was published in 1971. The first Discworld novel, The Colour of Magic, was published in 1983, after which Pratchett wrote an average of two books a year. The final Discworld novel, The Shepherd's Crown, was published in August 2015, five months after his death.

Pratchett, with more than 85 million books sold worldwide in 37 languages,[2][3] was the UK's best-selling author of the 1990s.[4][5] He was appointed Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) in 1998 and was knighted for services to literature in the 2009 New Year Honours.[6][7] In 2001 he won the annual Carnegie Medal for The Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents, the first Discworld book marketed for children.[8][9] He received the World Fantasy Award for Life Achievement in 2010.[10]

In December 2007, Pratchett announced that he had been diagnosed with early-onset Alzheimer's disease.[11] He later made a substantial public donation to the Alzheimer's Research Trust,[12] filmed a television programme chronicling his experiences with the condition for the BBC, and became a patron for Alzheimer's Research UK.[13] Pratchett died on 12 March 2015, aged 66.[14]

Pacing

:justpost:

Read as thou wilt is the whole of the law.

Please post after you read!

Please bookmark the thread to encourage discussion.


References and Further Materials



One streaming adaptation -- there have been a few --

https://www.amazon.com/Hogfather/dp/B079VFPJJQ

tsob posted:

I've never actually seen "Hogfather" in it's totality, but I certainly enjoy watching clips of it on YouTube because it seems to get the cheesy but hopeful tone of most Discword stuff. Scenes like Death talking to Susan about how people need hope are great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBnENlXt-H4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG7buZJFLCE

I enjoy the Hex stuff too. Death exhorting the world's first computer to believe because the world needs all the belief it can muster, and Hex pausing as it computes that before replying with it's Hogswatch wish list is just plain fun too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN3tLnlixkY

The cast is pretty excellent too. I don't know who was playing Death or Susan, but both have really strong performances of Pratchett's words in the scenes I've seen of it. David Jason as Albert is fantastic too. Just the right amount of crotchety git.

I'm still kind of shocked no studio has plundered Discworld for a cinematic universe, as it seems primed for it. Whoever played Death would rake in a fortune for life too, so long as it was even moderately successful.


Jedit posted:

There's an audio excerpt from the new Hogfather audiobook about halfway down this article. I don't necessarily recommend that Strix listen to it, but it's definitely a good representation of the humour.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/nov/16/bill-nighy-narrate-terry-pratchett-footnotes-new-discworld-recordings

In case anyone isn't reading the Pratchett thread: to celebrate the 50th anniversary of The Carpet People next year there are going to be 40 new Discworld audiobooks released (with Hogfather due any day now to lead the pack). Bill Nighy as the Footnotes - although he doesn't sound enough like Pterry for my taste - and Peter Serafinowicz as Death. Andy Serkis is going to narrate Small Gods.





Book Barn's general Terry Pratchett thread is here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2589635

Suggestions for Future Months

These threads aren't just for discussing the current BOTM; If you have a suggestion for next month's book, please feel free to post it in the thread below also. Generally what we're looking for in a BotM are works that have

1) accessibility -- either easy to read or easy to download a free copy of, ideally both

2) novelty -- something a significant fraction of the forum hasn't already read

3) discussability -- intellectual merit, controversiality, insight -- a book people will be able to talk about.

Final Note:

Thanks, and we hope everyone enjoys the book!

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Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
I don't normally pick books for BoTM when there's already a rolling thread for the author on the forum, but Hogfather is my favorite Christmas novel, possibly my favorite Pratchett novel, and a great introduction to Pratchett overall, and Pratchett's writing is sharp enough and clear enough that pretty much anyone can enjoy him (hence the popularity).

Happy Hogswatchnight, all!

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Bilirubin posted:

I'm in. I think this is next in the ordered reading of Death books I have been doing so I can FINALLY read the copy of Night Watch I picked up some years ago...

This is one of the few Discworld books that I think it's totally ok to read completely out of order (which is another reason it made the cut for BotM). The "Death Series" books are a lot more disconnected than the others until you hit this one. Mort, Reaper Man, and Soul Music are . . .fine. . . but this is the breakout.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

MockingQuantum posted:

Oh also sometimes the jokes and references in Discworld books can be a touch... uh... esoteric, especially if you're not British, ime. This website has been a big help in explaining references that I just flat out don't get: https://www.lspace.org/books/apf/

It's pretty good about not spoiling stuff from the books. If something isn't explained on that page, it usually means it's explained in the book (often shortly after I stop to check if it's a reference I don't get). That said, not getting a joke here or there has never affected my understanding or enjoyment of the books, and we all know how funny jokes are when someone has to explain them to you. I mostly find that page interesting in that it exist from when Pratchett himself used to post on Usenet, so occasionally weird references or inside jokes have explanations from the man himself.

Oh good call, I should have linked that website in the first post.

Here's the page of annotations specifically for Hogfather: https://www.lspace.org/books/apf/hogfather.html

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Bilirubin posted:

Crossposted from the discord:

only 43 pages in but its already had some memorable quotes. I'm a quite seen academical and I love this in particular, "Getting an education is a bit like a communicable sexual disease. It made you unsuitable for a lot of jobs and then you had the urge to pass it on." Love Susan as a governess. She is giving these kids a very practical education.

Yeah, this book contains my second-favorite footnote of all time

quote:

And they are correct. The universe clearly operates for the benefit of humanity. This can be readily seen from the convenient way the sun comes up in the morning, when people are ready to start the day."


(My favorite footnote can be found here: {[ url]https://twitter.com/ticiaverveer/status/964967221440204801?s=20[/url]}

Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Dec 12, 2021

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
Wife and I started watching the BBC adaptation tonight.

it's great! (so far)

The actors for the main cast are just amazingly cast

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
suggestions for January?

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
Ok, here are books entering public domain in january 2022 -- any of these look good to people?

https://www.windowsdispatch.com/public-domain-books-2022/

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Natty Ninefingers posted:

The Sun Also Rises is pretty readable for Hemingway.

This is where I'm leaning unless something changes my mind

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Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound
I'll get a thread up for Sun Also Rises soonish

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