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So i missed the live launch, decided to watch it after the fact. Saw this rocket:  And went wait a minute.. that looks like the rocket you see when you enter Gothenburg, Sweden (i am a swede), something i did yesterday when i went home to spend Christmas with my folks. It has been there for years now, at least 5 years.  "RUAG SPACE takes Gothenburg into space" is what it says I google RUAG Space Webb telescope and  Neat!  VERY Neat! https://www.ruag.com/en/news/ruag-space-technology-helped-successfully-launch-webb-space This was cool to wake up to lemme tell ya fellas 
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https://www.webb.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html 4.30% of the way there and counting
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Dec 25, 2021 16:21
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Demon Of The Fall posted:NASA’s poo poo always lasts way longer than planned, I bet this thing is still operational after 10 years somehow, which will be cool poo poo, we’re still getting signals from Voyager 1 and 2 over 40 years after their launch. That blows my mind every time I think about it because they’re entering interstellar space, having already left our own solar system.
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Dec 25, 2021 16:33
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I’m extra glad it didn’t blow up on launch because you know how much of a smug bastard musk would be and they should have used spacex or whatever
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Dec 25, 2021 16:36
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You Are A Elf posted:poo poo, we’re still getting signals from Voyager 1 and 2 over 40 years after their launch. That blows my mind every time I think about it because they’re entering interstellar space, having already left our own solar system. everyone forgets but we almost missed out on everything hubble ever saw because NASA put it in orbit with a bad lens
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Dec 25, 2021 16:42
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did it work
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Dec 25, 2021 16:50
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goochtit posted:https://www.webb.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html Was coming here to post this link, super cool!
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Dec 25, 2021 17:25
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Demon Of The Fall posted:NASA’s poo poo always lasts way longer than planned, I bet this thing is still operational after 10 years somehow, which will be cool
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Dec 25, 2021 17:26
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Nobody ever stops to consider: What we find out from this instrument we can never un-know. The knowledge could, and in all likelihood will, drive humanity over the brink and into unhinged madness. Not a soul will be spared from the maelstrom.
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Dec 25, 2021 17:47
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Nobody ever stops to consider: What we find out from this instrument we can never un-know. The knowledge could, and in all likelihood will, drive humanity over the brink and into unhinged madness. Not a soul will be spared from the maelstrom. we all stopped to consider this actually. you're the only one who hasn't. it's fine, take your time, considering isn't a race.
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Dec 25, 2021 17:54
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Nobody ever stops to consider: What we find out from this instrument we can never un-know. The knowledge could, and in all likelihood will, drive humanity over the brink and into unhinged madness. Not a soul will be spared from the maelstrom. Oh no. That's so different from life as we know it.
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Dec 25, 2021 17:55
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Binch I unknow more things you know every friday
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Dec 25, 2021 18:03
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Nobody ever stops to consider: What we find out from this instrument we can never un-know. The knowledge could, and in all likelihood will, drive humanity over the brink and into unhinged madness. Not a soul will be spared from the maelstrom. the maelstrom of galactic goatse?!
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Dec 25, 2021 18:36
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Klyith posted:https://jwst.nasa.gov/content/about/faqs/faqLite.html I believe they added a docking ring so in theory they could refuel it, it would just be very complicated and expensive to do so. IMHO given the thing cost 10 billion it would be worth considering, assuming it doesn't suffer too much damage out there, but I'm no rocket surgeon.
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Dec 25, 2021 18:47
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You know, if the US can flush 3 trillion down the stock market and it end up in the pockets of Bezos, Musk and Co. why is there gnashing over a 10 billion telescope project? We can fix it or refuel it. Throw money at it, we clearly can make the money machine go brrrrrr. Spend it in bitcoin, some dumbos will take it.
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Dec 25, 2021 18:56
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numberoneposter posted:*looks at smoking debris bits of space shuttles* They really don't like teachers and built a machine for it
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Dec 25, 2021 18:59
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$10B just to find out we're in a marble like men in black
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goochtit posted:https://www.webb.nasa.gov/content/webbLaunch/whereIsWebb.html im gonna pretend im driving
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Dec 25, 2021 19:00
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Gatts posted:You know, if the US can flush 3 trillion down the stock market and it end up in the pockets of Bezos, Musk and Co. why is there gnashing over a 10 billion telescope project? We can fix it or refuel it. Throw money at it, we clearly can make the money machine go brrrrrr. Spend it in bitcoin, some dumbos will take it. because making something that lasts robs future business titans of their opportunity to profit on future launches.
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Dec 25, 2021 19:02
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That Dang Lizard posted:I believe they added a docking ring so in theory they could refuel it, it would just be very complicated and expensive to do so. They were going to at one point, but apparently quietly dropped the idea. There's no docking ring anywhere on the photos of doing launch integration. According to Famous Goon Scott Manley, it would probably be a bad idea anyways, because without the shuttle manipulator arm doing any manned service mission would just be pretty impossible. The sunshade material is unbelievably delicate. OTOH that doesn't mean a refuel is impossible: various companies have been working on mini-satellites that can "refuel" another one by attaching like a limpet, and move the big one around that way. Northrup Grumman has done this twice now. They don't even need a docking ring, it just does some robot  and shoves a clamp into the target sat's main engine.So I think that if a JWST extension were to happen it would go like that. A new, moderately inexpensive robot that flies out and attaches to JWST, and NASA sends up new software to make the two work together.
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Nobody ever stops to consider: What we find out from this instrument we can never un-know. The knowledge could, and in all likelihood will, drive humanity over the brink and into unhinged madness. Not a soul will be spared from the maelstrom. i for one welcome oblivion
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Dec 25, 2021 19:16
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"Ground teams began receiving telemetry data from Webb about five minutes after launch. The Arianespace Ariane 5 rocket performed as expected, separating from the observatory 27 minutes into the flight. The observatory was released at an altitude of approximately 75 miles (120 kilometers). Approximately 30 minutes after launch, Webb unfolded its solar array, and mission managers confirmed that the solar array was providing power to the observatory. After solar array deployment, mission operators will establish a communications link with the observatory via the Malindi ground station in Kenya, and ground control at the Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore will send the first commands to the spacecraft." Wait the observatory is in space too? What the hell, that's awesome
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Dec 25, 2021 19:22
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Obviously by maelstrom I meant “giant cosmic gaped butthole.”
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Demon Of The Fall posted:NASA’s poo poo always lasts way longer than planned, I bet this thing is still operational after 10 years somehow, which will be cool Wasn't Cassinni or Pioneer working like.... 2 decades or something past their mission date? edit: You Are A Elf posted:poo poo, we’re still getting signals from Voyager 1 and 2 over 40 years after their launch. That blows my mind every time I think about it because they’re entering interstellar space, having already left our own solar system. Yeah that. Pennywise the Frown fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Dec 25, 2021 |
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Dec 25, 2021 21:12
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Pretty sure all the probes they’ve sent out have lasted longer than planned. The mars rovers, Hubble itself. They definitely seem to get the most bang for the buck
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The last launch I managed to catch live was the Cygnus Antares Orbiter-3 back in 2014. I stumbled across it on BBC moments before liftoff and called a coworker into the break room to watch with me. I pumped my fists, jokingly haranguing it to explode. Moments off of the platform, it did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL5eddt-iAo That coworker that I called into the break room to watch with me never looked at me the same way again, and that's how I learned to be more careful with what I wish for. I'm pretty happy JWST made it. I was watching with fingers crossed.
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Demon Of The Fall posted:Pretty sure all the probes they’ve sent out have lasted longer than planned. The mars rovers, Hubble itself. They definitely seem to get the most bang for the buck
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Dec 25, 2021 21:47
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New Horizons, launched in 2006, is still operational and should be into the 2030s. That's the one that flew by Arrokoth, the snowman-shaped object in the kuiper belt. They've been looking for something else it could fly by but space is the most aptly named thing in history.
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ProperCoochie posted:New Horizons, launched in 2006, is still operational and should be into the 2030s. That's the one that flew by Arrokoth, the snowman-shaped object in the kuiper belt. Cool satellites and rovers are basically the embodiment of "Well, let's gently caress around and find out" and that extremely owns.
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Demon Of The Fall posted:NASA’s poo poo always lasts way longer than planned, I bet this thing is still operational after 10 years somehow, which will be cool https://twitter.com/NASAWebb/status/1476194840018890756?s=20 hey I kinda called it, which is awesome news. still a month left and a bunch of poo poo can still go wrong, but good news here
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Cool!! I'm (sorta) unsurprised by that, imo it behooves NASA to consistently claim "Uh yeah this thing's gonna catch on fire probably" so then when it doesn't they can be like, "Ta-DA!"
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Big Beef City posted:Cool!! That's why they are the smartest government agency.
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Dec 29, 2021 16:52
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how do i shot webb? very accurately, it turns out!
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Big Beef City posted:Cool!! It's more they define a minimum mission that will make everything worth it and then way WAY over-engineer for that mission. Most of the over-engineering is because you only have one shot at it so you want to be absolutely sure that it's built as robust as possible. As an added bonus yeah you get to throw in a TA-DA! if things mostly go as planned So to use this scenario as an example. They knew the various things that could go wrong with the launch, with their trajectory, and who knows how many other things and knew how much fuel it would cost to correct for any of those scenarios. They also had to consider that they still had the expected mission to account for so that extra fuel was ON TOP of having enough for the mission. When the launch goes smoothly then hey look at that! A bunch of fuel we didn't have to consume just to get us to the mission zone! The cynical take is that they're doing this on purpose just for getting positive press but the reality is this is just what good engineering looks like
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Came to post that NASA blog post. Mozi posted:how do i shot webb? very accurately, it turns out!
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Lmao @ the eggheads at Nasa sending up huge rear end Hubble telescope without even snapping a few test shots first on Earth to make sure it's working right
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Dec 29, 2021 20:48
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeiQEG450gc Really cool video from yesterday that relays everything about the mission that is easy to understand. One thing I learned is one side of the telescope will be hot enough to boil water. The opposite side is cold enough to freeze air!
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Mooey Cow posted:Lmao @ the eggheads at Nasa sending up huge rear end Hubble telescope without even snapping a few test shots first on Earth to make sure it's working right obviously they did that with all the hubble predecessors that were pointed toward earth
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What if some script kiddie uses aohell to punt NASA off the controls and then points the mirrors at earth? I bet it could be a cool death ray.
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