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Kawalimus posted:A good chance for a WR to get MVP would be if the team's QB went down midseason and the rest of the year was a different QB but the WR kept the same top level production. Then a WR might win MVP. I checked and the last time a WR won MVP was 2019 so it's probably not as hard as all that
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Raku posted:I checked and the last time a WR won MVP was 2019 so it's probably not as hard as all that That's not even the right joke! But I did have to look up who won it.
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Dec 26, 2021 15:20
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I feel like Larry Fitzgerald should have won an MVP at some point considering the guys he had throwing to him.
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Dec 26, 2021 15:32
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For those wondering about a WR maybe winning MVP, here's the history of receivers even getting votes: The last time one got any votes at all was rookie Randy Moss getting 4 in 1998, for 8.5% of the total votes (The winner, Terrell Davis, got 25 votes/53%). Moss didn't even get any for his amazing season in 2007, not did Calvin Johnson in 2012. Prior to that, Jerry Rice got 10 votes in 1995 when he set the then record for receiving yards in a season with 1848 (Plus 122 catches, one shy of the then NFL record which was set that same season), and he did this with Elvis Grbac playing significant snaps that season (5 starts) and the team having a sub-par running game. Those 10 votes were good enough for second place that year, but Brett Favre ran away with 69 votes (Nice) for his first MVP. The year before, Rice got a single vote for MVP, as did teammate Deion Sanders, but their QB Steve Young ran away with the award (74 votes, 75.5%). Interestingly, Rice also finished third in the voting in 1993 with 15, while Steve Young got 21 votes, and their splitting of the vote allowed Emmitt Smith to win with only 26 votes. Sterling Sharpe got a single vote that year, and had gotten two in 1992, both years in which he'd reset the NFL receptions record (108 in 1992, 112 in 1993). Rice also got a single vote in 1990, for 1.3% of the vote. The closest and most well known case of a receiver nearly getting the MVP is 1987, and is also Jerry Rice. As a reminder, playing in only 12 games due to the players strike that year, Rice had 22 touchdowns. He finished second in voting with 30 votes, but again split with Joe Montana who got 18 himself. Their splitting of the vote allowed the MVP to go to John Elway, who got 36 votes. Rice had also gotten a single vote for MVP in 1986 (Also, so did Giants TE Mark Bavaro, who I think is the first tight end I've seen get a vote). I'll note that Chargers receiver Wes Chandler didn't get a single vote in 1982 when he lead the NFL with 1039 yards in the 9-game strike shortened season (His 129 yards per game is still the single season record), a year where Kicker Mark Moseley won the award by two votes over Dan Fouts. For those insanely curious like I was, the 1970s are full of seasons where receivers got one or two votes in random years, some being names people might remember (Harold Carmichael and Steve Largent both got two in 1979), others they won't (Rams receiver Harold Jackson got two in 1973). Chiefs receiver Otis Taylor got 10 votes and finished tied for second in 1971, a season where 13 different players got votes in their name and ultimately the award went to Vikings DT Alan Page (16 votes) for the first of only two defensive players to win the award. So yeah, it'll probably never happen unless you get a perfect storm of events where a receiver has an out of this world season. They'd probably need to shatter some record, while at the same time no QB in the league is having an obviously stand out year, cause no matter what the QB who finishes with the most yards or touchdowns or with the best record is guaranteed to get some votes by sports writers scrambling to fill out their ballot at the last second. It would probably help this hypothetical receiver if they also contributed in the rushing or return game as well, and also no running back had a great year carrying their team as well. Raku posted:I checked and the last time a WR won MVP was 2019 so it's probably not as hard as all that 
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fartknocker posted:So yeah, it'll probably never happen unless you get a perfect storm of events where a receiver has an out of this world season. They'd probably need to shatter some record, while at the same time no QB in the league is having an obviously stand out year, cause no matter what the QB who finishes with the most yards or touchdowns or with the best record is guaranteed to get some votes by sports writers scrambling to fill out their ballot at the last second. It would probably help this hypothetical receiver if they also contributed in the rushing or return game as well, and also no running back had a great year carrying their team as well. The reasons you listed are why it won't happen, and Steve Smith's 2005 season reflects that perfectly. He led the league in Receptions/Rec TDs/Rec Yards after missing the entire season prior due to a broken leg, his team had an 11-5 record and made the playoffs, and he had a QB throwing to him who wasn't going to vulture any votes. So basically what I'm saying is Jonathan Taylor is going to win it this year.
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Dec 26, 2021 16:16
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It’s gonna be Rodgers or Brady just like it is every year OPOY will be interesting though
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Bills bitch! Now watch us poo poo the bed so hard against the Falcons they put Cordarelle Patterson into the HOF.
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Dec 26, 2021 22:18
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The Texans are NOT going 3-14 this year!
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Chucktesla posted:Chargers bad Embarrassing.
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either i'm huffing paint or espn is, i thought Josh Johnson was on the Jets, why did he start for the Ravens this week
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Dec 26, 2021 22:45
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He played for both this year Now I'm curious how many QBs have thrown for 300 yards for two teams in the same season
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Alaois posted:either i'm huffing paint or espn is, i thought Josh Johnson was on the Jets, why did he start for the Ravens this week Josh was QB4 and on the jets practice squad behind Wilson, Mike White and Flacco lol
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did Tyler Huntley get hurt or catch COVID, i know he can't convert 2 point conversions to in the final seconds of the game but i'd have thought he'd played well enough to keep going with Lamar out
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Alaois posted:did Tyler Huntley get hurt or catch COVID, i know he can't convert 2 point conversions to in the final seconds of the game but i'd have thought he'd played well enough to keep going with Lamar out COVID
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Dec 26, 2021 22:52
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a neat cape posted:Embarrassing. What the gently caress happened?
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Kalli posted:What the gently caress happened? Couldn't stop anything on defense without Bosa and Derwin on the field. Houston was like 11/14 on third down.
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Dec 26, 2021 23:07
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Lol if you didn't think the bills had this pats game circled in blood after getting aced by 3 card mccorkle.
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Kalli posted:What the gently caress happened? Only one viable NFL corner and one edge rusher available for the game due to covid, like three defensive starters were knocked out over the course of the day, and they were a bad defense anyways
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a neat cape posted:Couldn't stop anything on defense without Bosa and Derwin on the field. Houston was like 11/14 on third down. Chucktesla posted:Only one viable NFL corner and one edge rusher available for the game due to covid, like three defensive starters were knocked out over the course of the day, and they were a bad defense anyways Yeah, but the Texans
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Dec 26, 2021 23:10
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The journalist asking this is hilarious https://twitter.com/JimmyTraina/status/1475222639954337795
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Hot Diggity! posted:The journalist asking this is hilarious I hope she asks it again next week since Bill invited her to.
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Kalli posted:Yeah, but the Texans They beat a covid and injury ravaged Titans team too
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2 linemen scored TDs in Jets/Jags. https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1475230168956473353
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Josh Allen is my god and "gently caress Boston" is His message
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The Ravens are seriously going to be in the 7th seed for the playoffs at the end of today the way it's looking. I mean you have got to be kidding me
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If Baltimore wins out they'll almost certainly make the wildcard. Not sure if that's actually a good outcome for the team all considered.
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Kawalimus posted:The Ravens are seriously going to be in the 7th seed for the playoffs at the end of today the way it's looking. I mean you have got to be kidding me The entire team is either on ir or COVID reserve
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The Puppy Bowl posted:If Baltimore wins out they'll almost certainly make the wildcard. Not sure if that's actually a good outcome for the team all considered. Yeah we'll get in the playoffs, somehow win against the Titans because all the road teams win but Mark Andrews will have a career ending injury. Then we'll get blown out by the Chiefs the following week. Gotta hope Miami can keep winning that will help us. Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Dec 27, 2021 |
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fsif posted:Josh Allen is my god and "gently caress Boston" is His message And Diggs is his prophet, speaking the good word of " you, you, you, you shut the gently caress up"
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Dec 27, 2021 00:24
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Dec 27, 2021 01:07
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drat, seems like the Pats kind of suck when the other team is able to throw the ball and they’re forced to as well.
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Lol at big dick nick leading one of the best bears offensive performance of the year
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The Seahawks let the loving Bears make a comeback TD run, then allowed one of the most insane 2pt conversions to happen, and then loving shat the bed on their final drive. Big Dick Nick needs to go to Denver or Carolina or somewhere. He's mostly bad but can have some magical performances at times.
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Chiefs @ Bengals next week should be pretty fun, kinda surprised they didn't move it to the late afternoon slot. Looking at the schedule I guess there are a lot of west coast games next week, maybe that played into not moving it.
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Grittybeard posted:Chiefs @ Bengals next week should be pretty fun, kinda surprised they didn't move it to the late afternoon slot. I mean the Bengals rival the Chargers in inconsistency
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