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Hey commander thread! I just played a weekend full of commander so I've got the itch to build my own deck, now that my Sliver Me Timbers deck is complete. I want to build a mill deck based around Grolnok. I've never built a mill deck, and also have only been playing commander for a few months; before they I stopped playing right when Planeswalkers came out. So... I don't have much commander knowledge, or a lot of 'new' card mechanics(Monstrous? wut), or even a lot of the basic cards (I think I own exactly one Sol Ring...). Was hoping for tips/tricks to build the deck, and maybe if there's somewhere with a kind of beginner Commander knowledge, if that thing exists. Oh and also, any recs for an online place to buy sleeves/card boxes? I want to get pirate themed stuff for my Slivers deck... Thanks!
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2022 11:57 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 06:46 |
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Most excellent, thanks for the tips! I know the like absolute basics about Commander regarding ramping, general card ratios and whatnot, I guess I should've specified that more mechanics based tips/tricks were what I need help with, since I'm so fuckin out of the loop I just got my first Planeswalker, ever, yesterday in a trade, so I've got some random mill stuff here and there so I should see what I have available first, I guess! Question though: I'm not quite sure what "new player Grolnok heuristics" is, is that a specific guide, or? Balon posted:just search for Commander Mechanic on the tubes. Oh this channel looks right up my alley, +1 subscriber and I'm sure I'll use a referral link or two from you!
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2022 18:58 |
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Batterypowered7 posted:This is the Grolnok deck Jon Suarez played back in November 2021: https://old.starcitygames.com/decks/154823 Excellent, also very helpful! Dumb commander question: what does a "tribal" deck mean?
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# ¿ Feb 14, 2022 20:20 |
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Bust Rodd posted:The only thing that seems interesting to me in Grolnok space is aggressively tutoring for Hermit Druid and then exiling my entire deck basically casting as much of it as I can, but the deck only functions with a truly unreasonable mana base. This is what I'm going to go for, I'm thinking. Probably vary the number of basic land cards to test out milling 1/4, or 1/3, etc etc. I don't really give a poo poo about the frog creature type, I just want to have my entire deck be playable any time and make my friends quake in fear
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2022 15:58 |
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https://mtgazone.com/streets-of-new-capenna-early-preview/ well i think i know what will be the first box that i purchase, holy poo poo i'm in love with this art
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2022 01:58 |
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Here's my upcoming Grolnok deck, I welcome any feedback! I definitely read him wrong when I first built the deck, and missed the "permanents" part on what gets a croak counter The Sideboard are cards a buddy is giving me, while the Considering list is everything I need to track down. I went no instants/sorceries, with the goal be to exponentially increase the croaked cards until you can find a win condition of drawing out, or until you overwhelm the board with frogsects or frogbats, from Crawling * or from Desecrated Tomb. I didn't want it to always be "draw until you find Thassa's Oracle/Hermit Druid/Jace, so I added in a bit of creature fun to mix it up. Hoping to have it built by this weekend and played ASAP https://www.moxfield.com/decks/l5yCwnqDHUGv93reiBnPzQ
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2022 15:11 |
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Played my Grolnok deck yesterday and it slaps I used a card editor website and turned Grolnok into hypnotoad, that's probably my proudest magic moment
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2022 14:51 |
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Well I'm pretty sold on snagging at least one of these boxes, thanks thread!
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2022 21:02 |
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TotalHell posted:I also missed the early bird signed box due to KS shenanigans, but that’s alright. The box looks cool, and I don’t currently own any proper deck boxes, so I’m happy to have this as my first. Yeah I'm only buying one, cause I'm in camp Stanley Toolbox for storing multiple decks, but having a nice fancy one will make me feel cool
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2022 23:31 |
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Framboise posted:In a similar vein, what influences your choice in commander? Liking the character? Their colors? Their mechanics? The theme of the deck you build around them? I've been a bit of mechanics/themed, so far. Grolnok was mainly because of the mechanic, but I've been having fun with doing little art printouts, like turning Grolnok into Hypnotoad, and Shorikai into Eva Unit 01. I built Shorikai, Genesis Engine, and that was 100% because I wanted to make a deck entitled GET IN THE ROBOT SHINJI (thanks Rebel for that idea )
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2022 21:06 |
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theironjef posted:I got into Commander entirely because I used to play in school during the Mirage block, and I was mad back then because I could never get enough slivers or figure out how to make them work, so now I just sit around tuning sliver tribals. Yooooo are you me?? I got back into magic for about a year in college, put together an OG sliver deck, then first thing I did when I got into commander was sliver it up. Let's trade our forbidden sliver knowledge
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2022 12:38 |
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theironjef posted:Can't imagine I have any secret knowledge, I'm terrible at this game. I assembled Infinite Sliver Queen a while back, but dismantled it after it went off a few times. Now I run a Voltron hivelord deck that uses those weird dual-color enchantments from the Lorwyn block and a bunch of other stuff that takes advantage of rainbow times, that one's for friendlier games, and a Sliver Overlord deck for tutoring and sliver theft shenanigans(I know it's jank but using Shields of Velis Vel to turn all of an opponent's creatures into every creature type and then using Overlord to call the slivers home is so satisfying when it works). Turning other's creatures into slivers then ringing the dinner bell to call them back home is so satisfying. I like to think of Slivers as both spells and creatures, and as such have a very small number of non-sliver spells in my deck. I think I'm only missing 2/3 sliver cards, need to find The First Sliver somewhere. Holding onto my extra Overlord for trading in the future; I traded a Queen to my buddy and he's basically been building my decks with the IOU amount he offered me, lol.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2022 16:35 |
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Stupid question about The Professor's Academic Kickstarter deck box: I would like to purchase the standard deckbox, the sizemorph divider in kickstarter white, then the kickstarter special tokens. I don't really want the life counter thingy. Am I reading the kickstarter correctly, that if I change my pledge amount to those individual items total ($49+$5+$18) then I'm good to go? I've backed uhh one thing on kickstarter and have no idea what I'm doing, lol
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2022 14:41 |
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Robviously posted:They updated it where if you manage your pledge and just pick the same reward you did, you can fiddle with the add-ons. Instructions are under Update 8, I think, and it does the math for you Ah most excellent, thank you! I didn't read any of the updates, so... yup
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2022 17:24 |
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^^^^ any artifact being tapped and deactivating it was a super early mechanic, like beta, wasn't it? Played a game with my new Shorikai vehicles deck and drat does it feel good when your board is popping off. Got boardwiped twice, and both following turns my board just filled up immediately like nothing happened
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2022 17:34 |
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berenzen posted:For 7 mana, he should be devestating to all opponents. He should be a win condition one he hits the field.
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2022 21:07 |
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Chakan posted:got my 98 mountain ashling deck perfectly. My friend shared this with our group and it's given literally every deck of theirs a 7 Derevi, Marisi, Ezuri, all top tier decks, still got 7s That thing is not good, lol
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2022 17:50 |
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pseudanonymous posted:Yeah but a Seven Point What? Technowolf posted:Check the date, mate Lol I didn't even think about the thread title or today's date when I posted earlier
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2022 18:01 |
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Magnetic North posted:When do they finally get to the point of them doing cards based on literal sponsors like: Why would you bring this evil into the world!
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2022 16:53 |
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fadam posted:
I've finally started to dig into the spoilers and there are so many great cards I want to jam into the mono red control deck I'm building
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2022 17:59 |
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So when new sets come out, do they also sell a like, bundle of all the commander decks, or are those just sold solo?
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# ¿ Apr 9, 2022 19:53 |
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Jiro posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exwb0w5jFZQ Well hot drat, looks like I gotta go to the pledge manager (ughhh) and figure out how to get one of those fly new colours
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2022 18:56 |
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Now I'm thinking of getting a double-sized one because that should be enough to hold (single-sleeved) 4 decks and a scenario for Marvel Champions or Arkham Horror. I hadn't really looked at any of the new colour options and now I'm eyeing both the teal/pink and the grey/red and I'm like fuuuuuuuuuuuuck I shouldn't buy two but hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngh I just might cause I have no self control for well made and pretty things
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2022 19:26 |
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Bust Rodd posted:It’s probably the last deck box I’ll ever buy, so I’m considering splurging a little. It’s also the only time I’ve ever given the Prof a dime for the 5+ years I’ve been watching his content Yeah this is kind of how I'm viewing it, like I'll probably only use those cheapo toolboxes for storage after this so why not splurge a little? Currently amping myself up to pledge for a second box. Already getting the library playmat and those cool tokens
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# ¿ Apr 11, 2022 20:03 |
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Elysiume posted:The one time I went to the MtG club in my college someone did this to me. His deck cost more than everyone else's put together and the other players were unwilling to focus him and he won every game he played with trivial ease. I never went back. This doesn't make any sense to me. Like, how is that fun for anyone involved, including the deck owner? And then just playing that same deck multiple times? I've merged two playgroups together and for a New Capenna release party it'll be like 3.5 groups all playing together and every group before starting always asks how hard/spicy we're gonna go. And when a deck just gets to go off from turn 1 yeah you cheese it up and let it roll cause that feeling is so loving goooooooood when it happens to you
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2022 11:17 |
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I roll a die as a joke if nobody has any blockers, it's basically a chump attack, and it's like turn 2. I expect to get called a coward, it's mostly just a joke, but it's definitely come back to bite me in the end, lol. I was playing a bit ago and one player could've taken out another, who arguably had the strongest deck (just not at the time) but instead he swung his player-killing creature at me so it could get chump blocked. That kind of soured me on that game, cause then the person with the strongest deck... won. After like half an hour of just those two players playing.
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2022 16:36 |
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So now that preorders for New Capenna stuff are available, I was hoping for a bit of info on the different types of boosters, specifically draft vs. set. I'm already planning on buying a collector booster box, probably one commander deck, and then a box of either the draft/set boosters. I've read this link to get a sense for them, but I dunno, I guess.. I still don't see a large difference between the two? Is The List cards in the set boosters the biggest draw for them? There are more rare possibilities from the set boosters but at the tradeoff of the basic lands, right? Do the triome lands count as 'basic lands' or would those be rare cards? Someone please help me budget this, my family is
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2022 17:24 |
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Batterypowered7 posted:Triomes are Rare and therefore not in the basic land slot. Cool beans, thanks! I guess I just need to decide if I'm going to buy both a set and a booster, or just one or the other. Buying both will probably zero out my cardboard budget for the rest of the year, since I've gone kinda ham recently, but also I love all of the everything of New Capenna so...
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2022 18:41 |
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TotalHell posted:Set boosters have a guaranteed foil, are the only packs that can contain List cards (at something like 1/4 having a list card?) and I believe guarantee alternate art frames etc. So yeah you have a slim chance at multiple rare from various slots (foil, alt-art, etc). I’m also guessing Set boosters will be the only way to get the alt-art basic lands, since that’s how it was in Kamigawa Neon Dynasty. Most excellent, thanks for that info. That makes a bit more sense to me, now. And I both want a bunch of cards, AND a bunch of pretty cards. Sooooo that probably means goodbye to my budget for the rest of the year!
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2022 19:59 |
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Pre-ordered New Capenna stuff yesterday Then I bought a kamigawa set booster on a whim and snagged a Boseiju, Who Endures and some $12 zombie wizard card, hopefully that good luck will continue when I open the Capenna stuff!
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2022 12:21 |
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Something exploring the artists more would be cool, or how the people at WotC come up with new cards, like the behind the scenes Dunno if those exist already?
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2022 13:35 |
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TheLawinator posted:Putting the new triland in each of the precons is such a nobrainer in terms of balancing out the value they put in those decks. yeah i'm pretty salty about this. it'd be ONE of the fancy lands and they couldn't even throw that bone? gently caress all the way off
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2022 20:41 |
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Jiro posted:MTG adjacent news: Jiro posted:
omg
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2022 00:17 |
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Had a fun party last night with 12 people playing games, some of us did precons +25$ so that was a fun framework to work in. Jetmir went OFF my first game with him, did 200+ damage toreach opponent just one after another
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# ¿ May 1, 2022 16:18 |
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Heath posted:Karona the False God goad tribal Weird way to spell Marisi
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# ¿ May 3, 2022 02:24 |
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Heath posted:Marisi is in the 99
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# ¿ May 3, 2022 12:03 |
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General MTG rules question regarding priority and the stack: if I cast a spell can I just immediately hold priority? Or does it have to go around the other players before I can continue? I think it's the former but I'm not 100% so am hoping for a clarification.
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# ¿ May 31, 2022 17:59 |
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Toshimo posted:Yes, if you are the active player, you can hold priority and get first response. Excellent, thank you for confirming!
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# ¿ May 31, 2022 18:07 |
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Quick rules question - when Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker creates a copy of Anarchist, it's ETB triggers, correct?
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2022 02:14 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 06:46 |
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Framboise posted:Yes. A copy of a creature has the same text as that creature unless stated otherwise. This is how some infinite combos work with Kiki-Jiki, such as copying Pestermite to continually untap Kiki-Jiki with each copy's ETB. That's what I thought, thank you! I just wanted to double check before I 'brag' about the 1v1 commander game I just had. I wanna brag because I've never gone infinite before in a deck that I created, this deck has NEVER popped off before, has only lost, and then to top it off I actually didn't even realize that I had one infinite combo in my deck, let alone at least two!* I made a mono red control deck with Starke of Rath as my commander, based on Prof's video of it. My buddy was playing Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun. My buddy's deck was popping OFF, he was making flying sharks and copying spells to make more sharks, and was about to get Marit Lage out, so I was sweating. I don't have much, I played a Sunbird's Invocation, super cool, I also got out my Hematite Talisman which as I played it I actually said "dunno if this really fits with my deck but let's see!" so on his turn he copied more spells and let me make a copy of my Sunbird's Invocation. I play Kiki-Jiki, luck into a Jeska's Will for the first trigger of Sunbird, hell yeah. Second trigger gives me Anarchist. So I play Jeska's again from that ETB, use some floating Jeska's Will mana on Hematite Talisman to untap Kiki-Jiki and do it again, and my buddy points out uh... I have an infinite mana combo there. And that also let's me exile my entire deck and play everything. And... I can also get infinite Anarchist creatures with haste... I'm super fuckin hyphy about this so I wanted to tell it to people who would understand, I told my partner about the entire thing and her eyes glazed over in about two seconds since she hasn't played a single game of MtG, lol * Fake edit - didn't realize there were infinite combos in the deck that Prof didn't point out in the video.
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2022 02:44 |