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jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Ornedan posted:

Cryptocoins seem good to libertarian weirdos who are opposed to ever trusting another human on principle, and hate "fiat" currencies. Bitcoin was meant to be a virtual gold standard where the generation of new coins slows and eventually stops, so that there will only ever be at most a fixed amount of currency in circulation. And there would be no bank whose ledger you'd have to trust, but rather a shared ledger's integrity would be enforced by everyone getting into an arms race for more computational power so they could allocate the dribble of new coins to themselves.

I guess the fundamental ideological stupidity of cryptos has nowadays gotten buried under all the layers of scams.

The best lies are 95% true. Scams are lies made professional

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jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/04/past-convictions-for-homosexual-activity-to-be-wiped-from-records-patel-to-announce

Gj, now do :catdrugs:

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

I, for one, think it was criminal to bring that statue of saddam down too. It's erasure. And besides he did a wonderful job with the autobahns

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

I wish we British didn't use nonce literally so much. Its way, way too funny a word for the behaviour it describes. It makes me laugh every time immediately before feeling sick.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Necrothatcher posted:

The Queen sobs as she draws her katana "you were always one's favourite".

Do reptiles have tear ducts?

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Convex posted:

Lol

Seems like bojo found a glass ceiling on failing upwards, at least for now

To his great disappointment "island duke" stops somewhat short of "world king" and may turn out not to be a licence to nonce after all

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

He might, finally, be hosed.

PMQs were a very different vibe this time

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

I said this before the other day but we, as a British people, really must stop using "nonce" literally. The comedy overtones are just too distracting when describing from one of the worst crimes. I guess in an isle that made pedophillia an institution, a funny word to describe someone who did it evolved as a coping mechanism.

Calling Andrew or whoever a nonce is just too funny for what he did. It's mocking, like kink shaming some kind of fetishist or whatever. The man is a literal [alleged] pedophile.

jiggerypokery fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Jan 12, 2022

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.



He's a fruitpot dictator. He'll find out

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Still calling him the "Duke of York" though apparently.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

ThomasPaine posted:

I don't want to be macabre but is a corpse not a little... fruity after a few weeks

That's liz truss she is always like that

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

King custard sadly not in custody

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

work event? Hmmm, the AIs are in on it!



Which site are you using for this? I tried to make a gbs ai art thread but it failed miserably because we crashed it instantly

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

As far as distraction tactics go, BBC reform is Super Effective!

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

forkboy84 posted:

I think manufacturing consent is not brainwashing.

Yeah it's not even close to the same. People on the left like the talk about the BBC like it is Russia today.

There is a huge void between state owned and state run.

If the BBC goes, it's only getting replaced by something easier to control. Either via private means like bskyb or whatever or explicitly state ran like Russia today.

The left really needs to be careful what it wishes for with the BBC in my opinion. All the other scenarios seem much worse to me.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Its not that the BBC deserves saving, it is that it's destruction will give ratings and market share to worse and more insidious media organisations that the right/capital has easier editorial control over.

It won't be a good thing if it goes

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Lady Demelza posted:

I think the last collaborative issue-based storyline Eastenders did was the coercive control/domestic violence one where Chantelle was eventually murdered by her husband?

I also think it's very sweet that people think Youtube isn't going to fully move to a subscription service evetually. It already has that option. And all 15 people who like watching videos of men making model railways in their sheds and ignore the Jordan Peterson videos will happily pay for it whilst arguing this is completely different from the BBC licence.

Youtube will never go full subscription unless something major changes lol its current advertising model has made it one of the most profitable mega corps ever off the back off people who make content for it for free/peanuts

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Prole posted:

I get where you're coming from, but... I dunno.

Why is it always the left who should be willing to compromise their values? If that's the way it must be, should we start being a little more understanding of the liberals who happily worked with the far right to put socialism down over the last half decade?

Corbyn was the compromise for many and he was treated - even by some of those you're implying we should be more amenable to working with - as thought he was some kind of reincarnation of Stalin and Hitler combined. Some of us compromised to work with the softer elements of the Labour left in 2017 and 2019. Look where it got us.

Where do you draw the line?

(EDIT: Apologies, you've probably all heard this exact same point made in myriad ways, so forgive my repeating it)

The right compromises too. There is a huge void between Tory policy and what Priti Patel would do with divine power. A world shaped by Steve Baker, again, would be vastly different from Priti's. Their uniting characteristic is being poo poo and cruel.

The goal of politics should be to shift opinion, and thus, the centre, closer to your point of view.

This is why "centrists" are so vapid. They are literal puppets

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Prole posted:

I dunno. CHIS Bill, PCSC Bill, Nationality & Borders Bill... For someone without divine power she sure is getting her way. Because that's always how it works: the ones to the left, regardless of how far right they are, are the ones that end up compromising. Lib Dems got themselves a 5p plastic bag charge by agreeing to tougher benefits sanctions... Is that compromise from both parties? Or is it just compromising your values for nothing?

EDIT: When was the last time a load of centrist labour melts turned up to campaign for a left wing candidate? Meanwhile, in 2017 I and hundreds of other leftists spend 13 hours a day pounding the streets knocking doors for one of the most vapid, would-be CHUK (if they'd have had her) MPs in the Labour Party. First thing she did when she won her seat was say that "despite the shadow of Jeremy Corbyn, we were successful because this constituency knows that the Labour Party is more than its leader!" I walked out of her little victory party there and then.

You think those bills aren't compromise on her part?

History is full of people like her. If she wasn't compromising in some sense the PCSC Bill would include public execution by hanging for "instigators". Just because the compromise they came to is insane, doesn't make it less of a compromise.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Julio Cruz posted:

the problem with saying "oh maybe we should compromise" is that compromise is a two-way street and requires some concessions from the other side as well

and, uh, *gestures at the current Labour party*

The current labour party isn't doing anything, compromises or otherwise. They have 0 policies and 0 plan to have any.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.


From the article...

"A senior Home Office source said Ms Patel had been pushing for military involvement for some time and had been repeatedly blocked despite crossings increasing."

Just to back up my point about compromise on the right. That woman is loving insane.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

The day the Home Office is given powers to get the military to do anything at all is the day that we can truly say Brexit has delivered the uk from Europe to Latin America.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

I've been trying to find the specific policing bill amendments the Lords battted down today but no joy. Anyone know?

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

What the gently caress is a "Freedom Pass"?

e: googled it

So over 60/66 can vote for free but literally everyone else has to pay to vote?

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Fingers crossed the lords will slap it down again. They dun good yesterday.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Mebh posted:

Oh, fun ADHD update. I finally got a share agreement with the NHS for continuity prescriptions last year, but went off the lisdexamfetamine from November as the crashes were utterly horrific.

I held off contacting my private doc as its 200 quid a pop for a 15 minute consult but caved right before Christmas and paid out of pocket to be put back on the lowest dose of methylphenidate at 10mg which does gently caress all, but at least doesn't make me want to literally kill myself.

Had another consult yesterday evening so I thought I'd ring up the NHS autism center during the day that I've been on the waiting list for 8 months for and see how they're doing. I found out that 8 months is the projected wait they had for a diagnosis, but for medication its 12 to 24 loving months. I skipped the diagnosis wait by paying for private, but I'm just stuck here for the next year in limbo.

In the private consult in the evening i got told the max they're legally allowed to increase my dosage by is 10mg per month and the max daily dosage is 100mg which based on my tolerance is likely what I'll need. So to get the med dosage to where it needs to be I'm going to have to pay for medication out of pocket each time AND for at least 9 more consults so... Yay near 3 grand.

I hate how lovely mental health care is here.


I feel for you Mebh.

I have the most obvious ADHD there ever was (they even made me see a shrink at school, but I was there just before people started getting diagnosed with it a bunch) but never got diagnosed officially because the waiting list to see a specialist was 2 years long the one time I tried (peak austerity).

I just self medicate with coffee and zealous circadian rhythm habits, there must be loads of people out there like me, and many who struggle much much more without help. I have no idea if it's worth trying to deal with it privately or not.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Debate & Discussion:

ThomasPaine posted:

Sure, I'm not just blaming anarchists. The USSR clearly hosed up a lot esp in the Stalin period.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

fatelvis posted:

What do you mean by "zealous circadian rhythm habits" - sleep hygiene/regularity?

Yeah all that. There is a great adhd thread in e/n

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Jakabite posted:

Maybe London just has more of an issue with this than other places in the UK then. The scene here is dramatically more fractured than other cities, from what I gather.

The narcissism of small differences - the left is the loving worst for this

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Guavanaut posted:

That's why constituency sortition if non-voters win is better than mandatory voting. It'd probably have a Tory bias in the short run, but every party would have to campaign both against each other and against voter apathy.

This, but instead a random winner, we have an execution.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

forkboy84 posted:

"I don't want to have this conversation" *proceeds to make a point I already debunked about the timing of Kronstadt*

Maybe some time you do want the discussion you can suggest when would've been an appropriate time to challenge the dictatorship of the party. Because if not after White's were such a small concern that the Red Army Had turned on their former allies in the Ukraine when?

Can't be 1922 when the Workers' Opposition were kicked out for wanting workers (BOLSHEVIK WORKERS at that) to have more say than the rising bureaucracy in the running of the state. By the 30s, ah, got to combat fascism abroad and then as soon as WW2 is over they can claim to be undersiege with the Cold War

Nevermind that the bureaucracy is firmly established really strong by 24/25

I wish the bolshevik revolution wasn't more or less the only history taught in schools.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Prole posted:

I've just read something that made me realise that Gordon Brown is probably the best PM this country has had in my lifetime, and now I want to walk into the sea with no clothes on and then just keep walking...

he was and I voted lib dem to my eternal shame :commissar:

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

IIRC they were also anti-prohibition and pro-electoral reform which was the main thing i was voting for. Honestly the AV thing was more of a betrayal for me than the tuition fees, which i don't think was the worst policy ever in it's original form.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

The liberal democrats will...

quote:

Ensure that financial resources, and police and court time, are not
wasted on the unnecessary prosecution and imprisonment of drug
users and addicts;

quote:

Always base drugs policy on independent scientific advice, including
making the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs completely
independent of government.

https://www.markpack.org.uk/files/2015/01/Liberal-Democrat-manifesto-2010.pdf

There is genuinely some good poo poo in there. It was at least as progressive as labour's at the time and I'm pretty sure none of us who voted for them wanted them in coalition with the haunted ham club.

e. 87... the lower bound estimate of the number of things in the above document that they betrayed us on

jiggerypokery fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Jan 18, 2022

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

For most people voting lib dem in 2010, that was the first general election they could vote.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

Reading it now, i'd vote for it again if someone put that manifesto forward now.

WhatEvil posted:

In any case I was shocked that the LDs who I viewed as a left-wing party and somebody I could see myself voting for, sided with the Tories over Labour.

You and thousands of others. Funny that a progressive manifesto got them their biggest result ever and they did that. The narrative that the betrayal was tuition fees is just bullshit. The same big progressive energy that poured into Corbyn was brewing in 2010. I expect the apathy that followed hurt Miliband way more than anything Miliband did or didn't do.

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

I will always enjoy the irony of anarchists organising and the ensuing mental gymnastics about why it isn't a contradiction in terms

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

I thought it was pronounced "grim-up-north"

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/reasons-bury-worst-pictures-18603796-18603796

jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.

UK anti-encryption campaign website lol https://noplacetohide.org.uk/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3D8670smTI

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jiggerypokery
Feb 1, 2012

...But I could hardly wait six months with a red hot jape like that under me belt.


pronounced "be-yewb" :mamacita:

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