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a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!
Hello.

I did not do rankings after Sunday Night because I was very sad. I am still sad but I will push through it for the rankings.

I believe these are the accurate rankings exiting the 2021 Regular season. The rankings entering the 2022 season may be different because that is in the far future. For now, these are the rankings.


1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. Justin Herbert
4. Joe Burrow
5. Matt Stafford
6. Patrick Mahomes
7. Dak Prescott
8. Derek Carr
9. Kirk Cousins
10. Russell Wilson
11. Lamar Jackson
12. Josh Allen
13. Kyler Murray
14. Ryan Tannehill
15. Baker Mayfield
16. Mac Jones
17. Tua
18. Carson Wentz
19. Jalen Hurts
20. Jimmy Garappolo
21. Matt Ryan
22. Taylor Heinecke
23. Davis Mills
24. Justin Fields
25. Drew Lock
26. Ben Roethlisberger
27. Jared Goff
28. Trevor Lawrence
29. Daniel Jones
30. Taysom Hill
31. Zach Wilson
32. Cam Newton

I love you all

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Blitz of 404 Error
Sep 19, 2007

Joe Biden is a top 15 president
Great list thank you for your work throughout the year

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

Well that's the end of the nfl for now. Looking forward to when Nfl returns next year when my friend ranks the qbs to start off the season. Commenting on the rankings. NOT an argument. Simple comments.

a neat cape posted:

1. Aaron Rodgers
Agree.

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2. Tom Brady
High

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3. Justin Herbert
Low

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4. Joe Burrow
Agree.

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5. Matt Stafford
Agree.

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6. Patrick Mahomes
Agree.

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7. Dak Prescott
Agree.

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8. Derek Carr
Agree.

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9. Kirk Cousins
Agree.

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10. Russell Wilson
Agree.

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11. Lamar Jackson
Agree.

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12. Josh Allen
Agree.

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13. Kyler Murray
Agree.

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14. Ryan Tannehill
Agree.

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15. Baker Mayfield
Agree.

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16. Mac Jones
Agree.
Agree.

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18. Carson Wentz
Agree.

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19. Jaylen Hurts
Agree.

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20. Jimmy Garappolo
Agree.

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21. Matt Ryan
Agree.

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22. Taylor Heinecke
Agree.

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23. Davis Mills
Agree.

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24. Justin Fields
Agree.

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25. Drew Lock
Agree.

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26. Ben Roethlisberger
Agree.

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27. Jared Goff
Agree.

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28. Trevor Lawrence
Agree.

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29. Daniel Jones
Agree.

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30. Taysom Hill
Agree.

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31. Zach Wilson
Agree.

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32. Cam Newton
Agree.

Big Ol Marsh Pussy
Jan 7, 2007

a neat cape posted:

Hello.

I did not do rankings after Sunday Night because I was very sad. I am still sad but I will push through it for the rankings.

I believe these are the accurate rankings exiting the 2021 Regular season. The rankings entering the 2022 season may be different because that is in the far future. For now, these are the rankings.


1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. Justin Herbert
4. Joe Burrow
5. Matt Stafford
6. Patrick Mahomes
7. Dak Prescott
8. Derek Carr
9. Kirk Cousins
10. Russell Wilson
11. Lamar Jackson
12. Josh Allen
13. Kyler Murray
14. Ryan Tannehill
15. Baker Mayfield
16. Mac Jones
17. Tua
18. Carson Wentz
19. Jalen Hurts
20. Jimmy Garappolo
21. Matt Ryan
22. Taylor Heinecke
23. Davis Mills
24. Justin Fields
25. Drew Lock
26. Ben Roethlisberger
27. Jared Goff
28. Trevor Lawrence
29. Daniel Jones
30. Taysom Hill
31. Zach Wilson
32. Cam Newton

I love you all

nope

Chucktesla
Jul 13, 2014

The list is good

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
I agree with the list, nice work

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Alls I'm gonna say is that Garoppolo should be higher than Wentz, if only for not loving up on that final drive.

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002
Swap 14 and 8 and you’ve got yourself a list baby

GNU Order
Feb 28, 2011

That's a paddlin'

Thank you for the list. Now that we're done with the season, we can examine the trends across the whole season. I took the liberty of breaking down the lists into a table, here's a giant line chart with the results


Zooming in, here's a couple things that stood out to me

- Some QB's whose rank was highly volatile: Russel Wilson (highest rank was 3, lowest rank was 17), Ryan Tannehill (high 11, low 22), Kyler Murray (low 15, high 4, then low 14), Joe Burrow (low 16, high 4), Daniel Jones (high 16, low 29), Jalen Hurts (high 17, low 30), Sam Darnold (high 13, low 29), Carson Wentz (the king of volitilty, high 4, low 25), Mac Jones (high 11, low 30)

- Some QB's whose rank was extremely consistent, in rough order (difference between best and worst rank is 6 or less): Aaron Rodgers, Matt Stafford, Baker Mayfield, Matt Ryan, Tua Tagovailoa, Jimmy Garappolo, Ben Roethlisberger,

I'm awarding the following awards based on the data
MVP: Aaron Rodgers
ROTY: Mac Jones
Most Improved: Mac Jones (+14 from first eligible week to Week 18), Joe Burrow (+12 from start to end)
Biggest Regression: Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson (both -7 from start to end)

Elite QB's (Never left the top 10): Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Matt Stafford, Deshaun Watson*
Almost Elite QB's (had one week outside the top 10): Russell Wilson, Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, Derek Carr

And here's a pastebin with my tables if you want them https://pastebin.com/UDhY5kXc

Rogue Elephant
May 1, 2007

Josh Allen should be higher and Stafford should be lower imo but other than that I agree

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!
Every rank is spot on. Great job as always.

Dubious
Mar 7, 2006

The Heroes the Vikings Deserve
Lipstick Apathy
perfect analysis great list, have you considered getting into listicles for a career

King Hong Kong
Nov 6, 2009

For we'll fight with a vim
that is dead sure to win.

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Alls I'm gonna say is that Garoppolo should be higher than Wentz, if only for not loving up on that final drive.

Yep. Jimmy G shouldn't be higher but Wentz has to be lower for completely bottling the Colts' season.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
I would rather have Joe than Justin but I think three and four is fair.

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.
Pretty good list. Also, don't mope too much, Ross, the Chargers have a bright future.

Mystic Stylez
Dec 19, 2009

GNU Order posted:

Thank you for the list. Now that we're done with the season, we can examine the trends across the whole season. I took the liberty of breaking down the lists into a table, here's a giant line chart with the results


Zooming in, here's a couple things that stood out to me

- Some QB's whose rank was highly volatile: Russel Wilson (highest rank was 3, lowest rank was 17), Ryan Tannehill (high 11, low 22), Kyler Murray (low 15, high 4, then low 14), Joe Burrow (low 16, high 4), Daniel Jones (high 16, low 29), Jalen Hurts (high 17, low 30), Sam Darnold (high 13, low 29), Carson Wentz (the king of volitilty, high 4, low 25), Mac Jones (high 11, low 30)

- Some QB's whose rank was extremely consistent, in rough order (difference between best and worst rank is 6 or less): Aaron Rodgers, Matt Stafford, Baker Mayfield, Matt Ryan, Tua Tagovailoa, Jimmy Garappolo, Ben Roethlisberger,

I'm awarding the following awards based on the data
MVP: Aaron Rodgers
ROTY: Mac Jones
Most Improved: Mac Jones (+14 from first eligible week to Week 18), Joe Burrow (+12 from start to end)
Biggest Regression: Russell Wilson, Lamar Jackson (both -7 from start to end)

Elite QB's (Never left the top 10): Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Matt Stafford, Deshaun Watson*
Almost Elite QB's (had one week outside the top 10): Russell Wilson, Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, Derek Carr

And here's a pastebin with my tables if you want them https://pastebin.com/UDhY5kXc

Nice! Great thread and post

pasaluki
Feb 27, 2008

THIS WHAGON HAS NO BREAKS! I HAVE THE HEART OF THE BUUFALO the strength OF THE MOUNTAIN, THE FURY OF THE THUNDER AND MY WILL IS UNBREAKABLE! I will not surrender to KNOW ONE
Have to admit the OP nailed it.

Edit:
https://twitter.com/YetiOrKnot/status/1481747769781985284?s=20

Holy poo poo WHH sighting

pasaluki fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Jan 14, 2022

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

i'll be winning a doll for my friend soon. i named the band My Friend And The QBs He Ranked and it's going to win the competition. after that i'm going to send the doll to my friend. it's going to be justin herbert

Chucktesla
Jul 13, 2014

I want the Ekeler doll with the mini guitar

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!
I have twitter notifications set

syzpid
Aug 9, 2014
lol Trevor Siemian had a better season then Hill in nearly every stat but Wins. Hell you could argue that Josh Johnson playing for 2 different teams had a better year then Hill.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

Translate that into low/high

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

syzpid posted:

lol Trevor Siemian had a better season then Hill in nearly every stat but Wins. Hell you could argue that Josh Johnson playing for 2 different teams had a better year then Hill.

Taysom started the most games which is why he's the one who is ranked.

LiquidFriend
Apr 5, 2005

Not a good list.

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

Wentz is way too high, Ryan is way too low as is Allen.

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


I would rank one of the middle ones differently

shyduck fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Jan 15, 2022

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

LiquidFriend posted:

Not a good list.

I am sorry you don't like my list. I did my best

3 DONG HORSE
May 22, 2008

I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

Drew Lock is a surprise to me, but I accept this list as fact.

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


Did you use the Yale or Oxford method? Did you factor in fRP%

a neat cape
Feb 22, 2007

Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

shyduck posted:

Did you use the Yale or Oxford method? Did you factor in fRP%

My main factor was eye%

LiquidFriend
Apr 5, 2005

a neat cape posted:

I am sorry you don't like my list. I did my best
Thank you for trying your hardest.

MrLogan
Feb 4, 2004

Ask me about Derek Carr's stolen MVP awards, those dastardly refs, and, oh yeah, having the absolute worst fucking gimmick in The Football Funhouse.
Carr too low, imo.

Amy Pole Her
Jun 17, 2002

MrLogan posted:

Carr too low, imo.

Agreed he needs a higher number next to his name. Truly a great point

Beefed Owl
Sep 13, 2007

Come at me scrub-lord I'm ripped!
As a Broncos fan I agree with the placement of Lock and lack of Bridgewater on the list.

A good list.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010


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Ultra Carp
I'll go to bat for Goff here, he was awful to start the season but by the end he was... well, not good, but decent. I'd slot him just above Carson Wentz.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

in the wildcard round all of the higher ranked qbs in my friend's rankings won their playoff games against lower ranked qbs. except for one. this is a good sign that the rankings are correct and that it's a team effort

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Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

some people are needing these rankings in one of the other threads. big tussle going on. I'm making sure they can find it easily.

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