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pointlessone posted:Episode 23: IKEA Whoah is that in the Jamais Vu update
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Mar 5, 2022 03:46
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I asssume they're drilling for rock candy
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Mar 5, 2022 04:24
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The book seriously seems like he's doing the exact opposite of what he's saying he's doing half the time. I did enjoy his term for their relationship this episode, though.
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Mar 6, 2022 05:10
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If this ends with the book saying 'yeah I was just trolling the pair of you, you're lovely people and deserved it' and disappearing, that might actually redeem the game.
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Mar 6, 2022 09:42
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Mar 8, 2022 00:36
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Also we have a poll going on the next LP on our Youtube channel! So please vote away on it! What Should We Play Next?
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Mar 8, 2022 00:46
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The "therapy sessions" sections of this game really do feel like they're achieving the premise of getting May and Cody back together-ish. This section feels like it really should have been first from the story perspective. Story wise, it really feels like the game should have flowed from the Shed to Couples Therapy, then Honey I Shrunk the Parents and them trying to get to the house and Rose's Room. From there, the Ending Branch of good/bad endings (????<>Elephant in the Room) I don't know how much of the game is left, but the writers really screwed the pooch in the order of this. Therapy section May and Cody are fairly likable and feel like they're actually achieving progress as characters which makes "Let's murder her favorite toy to make our child cry" victory dancing a clear cut bad ending option. Forcing it into the main game is just a weird choice.
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Mar 8, 2022 08:39
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Therapy section May and Cody are in fact still very lovely people. Since the Elephant In The Room neither of them have even mentioned their daughter and appear to have forgotten she exists, let alone that they left her crying and that she's been on her own for a pretty long time by this point.
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Mar 8, 2022 15:31
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Oh, absolutely agree. There's no coming back from dancing in glee that you've managed to make your child cry. Taking each section of the game as its own though, the radio silence on Rose would be a bit more understandable since they were trying to recover her letter from the book if this was happening in a vacuum. Benefit of the doubt - These levels could have existed anywhere in the game, so there's a tiny chance at redeeming these two terrible, awful people.
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Mar 9, 2022 02:41
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Mar 9, 2022 23:52
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I feel like the story as-is wouldn't even have needed much. Gameplay-wise you start out highlighting things they've neglected or forgotten, and innocents (the vacuum, toolbox and bee) suffer because they're in the way. Then their desire to return to normal has them directly harming their daughter's toys. Now it's reconciliation and deliberate teamwork as they rebuild things. All you need is for the Elephant moment to have the characters themselves realize how messed up it was. You can even wait until the tears don't work, as the fog of "it's necessary" fades away. Metastory-wise this is the atonement/rebuilding section, but the characters themselves haven't engaged with the most important part of atonement: realizing you hosed up.
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Mar 10, 2022 00:05
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If it's the number of legs that upsets you, Nat, how do you feel about crabs? Armoured spiders! 
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Mar 10, 2022 01:01
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Did you know the fastest spider in the world is native to the UK? They're actually a pretty common sight inside the household, especially in late summer/early autumn when the males go looking for mates. It's called the giant house spider, and if you've seen one you probably know why. With their speed they chase their prey down directly rather than spinning webs. I just find them interesting.
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Mar 10, 2022 02:01
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Tenebrais posted:I just find them interesting. You misspelled horrifying.
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Mar 10, 2022 08:49
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I don't mind spiders, with the exception of hunting spiders. Who are too big and definitely way too fast. I can leave long legs and such around when I see them, but the moment I see one of those hairy fuckers I get a jar and evict them out of the house. Admittedly I don't like tarantulas either but they're not really a thing I see here so they don't really concern me.
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Mar 10, 2022 13:07
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Black Robe posted:You misspelled horrifying. It's both here. A strong arachnophobia and a fascination with them. Such as the spiders Tea mentioned in the episode the mostly vegetarian spider, and the social spiders. (warning: those links have pictures.)
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Mar 10, 2022 18:08
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Mar 12, 2022 00:52
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I admit I chuckled at "downward frog". The game definitely can be charming when you're not inflicting emotional abuse on children.
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Mar 12, 2022 02:02
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Working to save and restore a garden is a great goal for a game and a good therapeutic thing for a couple to be doing. Just not at the expense of their actual daughter who they still have not remembered exists.
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Mar 12, 2022 08:26
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anilEhilated posted:The game definitely can be charming when you're not inflicting emotional abuse on children. I feel this is the best summary of the entire game I've read so far.
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Mar 12, 2022 08:27
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Yeah these last couple of chapters have been pretty good. Even the book's antics feel more fun now. In retrospect this game would have been improved massively if Rose simply wasn't in it; pretty much all of the bad writing comes down to the characters not treating her properly. The book was really grating because it was so insistent about coming between the parents and their child. Then the whole thing where the parents made it their goal to hurt their daughter as much as possible and didn't feel bad for her about it at all. Even now the main thing dragging the tone down is the regular reminders that Rose is functionally by herself, under the impression her parents don't want to talk to her, and no one seems to care. Just scrap the character of Rose. Let Cody have bought this self-help book from one of those mysterious shops that's always been there but hadn't always been there yesterday, and it is what's putting them through all this under its own power with the promise to let them go once they fix their relationship issues. The story would have been so much better and the only gameplay you'd lose would have been the chapter based around Rose's room, which I'm sure they could have come up with substitutes for.
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Mar 12, 2022 12:17
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I think you'd still need to rebalance things so that all the character development and actual therapy-type stuff is more evenly dispersed through the game. But removing Rose a) takes away the grossest plot beats (the elephant in particular) and makes Cody and May immediately more relatable as you're not continually reminded they're terrible parents, and b) makes the entire premise of trying to save their marriage better because it's not founded on a toxic "stay together for the child" message. (Divorce is hard for kids to understand but it's often better for the kid than growing up with their parents constantly fighting!)
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Mar 13, 2022 19:02
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Mar 14, 2022 23:41
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Attack of the killer tomatoes~
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Mar 15, 2022 01:32
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Those two have now shown significantly more concern for a houseplant than for their daughter Kind of enjoyed the punchline that this was never a couples' problem really. It's like Joy wasn't even listening to the annoying talking book!
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Mar 15, 2022 01:50
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Tenebrais posted:Those two have now shown significantly more concern for a houseplant than for their daughter The plant should be the new counsellor. Telling Cody to grow up and not blame everyone else for him not doing things is good. Next step, remind him that his daughter exists and ask why the hell he's not putting in this amount of effort to help her, and copy May in on this question.
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Mar 15, 2022 08:50
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Mar 17, 2022 00:32
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...when is this game set, anyway? Some of this audio tech looks older than Cody and May would be if it's in the modern day. In retrospect quite a lot of the stuff we've seen has looked pretty 90's.
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Mar 17, 2022 02:02
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I'm just imagining kids playing this and having no idea what any of the things are. Do they know what a tape is?
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Mar 17, 2022 02:14
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Explopyro posted:I'm just imagining kids playing this and having no idea what any of the things are. Do they know what a tape is? It's that thing Soundwave's animals turn into.
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Mar 22, 2022 00:18
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Sorry game, no matter how many cool sections you throw at us I won't forget the elephant torture.
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Mar 22, 2022 19:11
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This is probably the one set piece I'm struggling to care about to be honest, but at least it's better than the elephant regicide.
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Mar 23, 2022 11:06
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Mar 24, 2022 00:03
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I think he's supposed to be more latin than specifically Mexican , the whole thing being reference the cliché that they are very passionate.
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Mar 24, 2022 00:44
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 That is all she wrote for this LP friends! We'll be moving on to Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow very shortly, which I'll link through to when I can and in the meantime I'll have a few videos out on Triangle Strategy. As ever, thanks so much for watching along and supporting us. It means the world to both Tea and myself.
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Mar 26, 2022 01:50
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Man, this sure was a fuckin video game.
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Kinu Nishimura posted:Man, this sure was a fuckin video game. A video game... of the year!
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