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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Grimdude posted:

As it's been said many times already: the opening intro slaps so hard. Like, I appreciated it before but I just got home and took a bong hit to the brain and watched the intro sequence five times.

I always skip show intros after the first. This really might be the first show where I watch it every time, not to mention even when I'm not watching it.

Gunn said this was the whole point! He was tired of how every show with a "skip intro" button immediately gets its intro skipped so nobody sees any of the credits. So he decided to make an intro that would be watched every single time.

I feel the same about Doom Patrol. The awesome song and visuals are more atmospheric than many whole TV shows.

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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

NowonSA posted:

This is certainly the best work that I've seen Cena do. I heard someone point out that Gunn's a goddamn wizard at highlighting strengths and hiding weaknesses in the actors he works with, with Dave Bautista in the first GotG as the prime example of that (which is also the position that Dave's basically taken in interviews), so I feel like there's some of that at work here too. Then again who knows, maybe Peacemaker's going to get a full 7 minute super intense emotional monologue at some point and it'll turn out that Cena's got some proper acting chops now.

I've read some interviews about it. He said Cena is the best improvisational actor he's ever met, so it was really just about making sure he had the dramatic abilities. He'll also get extremely precise with actors if they're having trouble; during TSS, David Dastmalchian was having trouble with the scene where he reveals his mommy issues. Gunn directed him to stand in a really specific way that looked like an awkward child, and Dastmalchian said that was all it took to fall into place. Gunn allows improv whenever possible, but he also has a very precise creation in his head that he can direct to the inch. He's an absolute visionary and beloved by everyone he works with.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Well, Bautista and Cena are also where they are because of James Gunn personally turning them into serious actors.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Takes No Damage posted:

I've heard the 'wooden door creaking open' clip from Daggerfall in dozens of TV shows, it must be named aaaa_door_open.wav or something.

There are massive sound archives for pretty much everything possible, both licensed and royalty-free. Doing your own foley is complicated and expensive, especially if it's just stuff like doors and footsteps, and gunfire and explosions are notoriously hard to record in any accurate way because they're so loud that the pressure wave has partially passed before the microphone diaphgram has struck the back to record the sound. The famous bank robbery in Heat was filmed like this, and miraculously caught accurate sound, and everyone had to shout their dialogue over it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQNBg6I29gI

So unless necessary or demanded by the creator, especially with the low budget of TV, most sound departments just take a file library and make edits as necessary. Pitch, reverb, mixing with other files, etc.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Zzulu posted:

I think the HEAT shootout might still be the best filmed shootout I've seen. And yeah, the sound is a huge part of it

Mann does the same sound thing in Collateral.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEFPcljAXgs

This is exactly what a gun going off in an empty part of a city sounds like.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

https://twitter.com/JohnCena/status/1486416248749633536

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

We're the 11th Street Kids now.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

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Apr 24, 2014

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

The more important part is that the success of Deadpool, Logan, The Suicide Squad, and other R-rated superhero blockbusters (and TV shows like Peacemaker and Doom Patrol) may play an important role in pushing the genre to be more willing to make mass market R-rated films even without going grimdark like Snyder does. Feige has already confirmed Deadpool's future films under him will stay R.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

I think John Cena is going to have a strong acting career after this.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Starting to think John Cena might just be the best human.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

NowonSA posted:

the cow is one hell of a freaky looking thing (that one's kind of a gimmee)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71kAAVlpENY

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQvEItnEG-8

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

There's a good video I saw on Gunn's use of music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nSgtpjfgbA

The original Suicide Squad film tried to ape Guardians of the Galaxy through constant use of needle drops, but they were mostly on-the-nose direct lyrical comparisons to what was happening on screen even if the actual meaning of the song was different, and were done so constantly that you were through a whole album's worth of song snippets before the prologue was done. Gunn uses needle drops to indicate the mood that should be felt during the scene, which makes them fit much more naturally as if the song is playing in the POV characters' minds as the events happen. A really good similar scene is the final fight in GOTG 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce2a0wWtnJA

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Mr Hootington posted:

The aliens are social media

Edit: watching Gunn unleashed with suicide squad and peacemaker makes me curious about taika waititi unleashed.

Well, he played Hitler.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1489602243422826498

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1489605103720050690

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1489606914954735622

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

sexpig by night posted:

I love that Cena, a man who had one of his debut gimmicks as 'professor of thuganomics', with a finisher still called 'the five knuckle shuffle', is one of the rare wrestlers who's actually a cool person and not a complete shithead out of character. The man 100% should be one of the most insufferable people considering he went from all that to being the WWE golden boy and all but near every story about him is just poo poo like this where he's the Anti-Hogan.

The Rock is currently giving public support to Joe Rogan for his antivax conspiracies. We can keep Cena and Bautista.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

moist turtleneck posted:

oh whoops I didn't realize there was a thread for this

I'm not a fan of comic book stuff but GotG and Suicide Squad and Peacemaker are some of my favorite recent pieces of media

I never thought I'd be an HBO subscription person but this and Righteous Gemstones are hitting it out of the park

There's also Doom Patrol, which is possibly even better than Peacemaker.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVhJy-CR64Q

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

https://twitter.com/Itsanniechang/status/1482073101525348356

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

cant cook creole bream posted:

Amanda Waller is not a nice person. The plan here was to sweep up all the butterfly people and afterwards use the diary to blame it all on a delusional and deranged Christopher Smith, who did it all on his own volition.

It only just clicked that like Bloodsport, Leota is another foil to Peacemaker. She’s just actively in the process of being turned by her parent into a monster and she’s trying to reject it.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

cant cook creole bream posted:

By the way, did Starro name itself, or did that come from the creepy scientist?

The doctor says "I call it: Starro the Conquerer!"

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Toplowtech posted:

My favorite part of "The Suicide Squad" is the quite obvious nazi nature of the all the US-backed experimentations in *check note for totaly normal central american prison name* Jötunheim. We should be happy they didn't call it Adolf.

Jotunheim, in the comics, was a Nazi fortress in their fake Middle Eastern country that the Suicide Squad was sent to attack when a terrorist group occupied it.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

As he said in the first episode, the days when men were men is when they weren't afraid to be women.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

After today's Book of Boba Fett, I'm very excited for Peacemaker instead tomorrow.

Can we get James Gunn to do a Star Wars with full creative control next?

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Checkhov's Butthole was Economos all along.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

VagueRant posted:

Very weird going from the 40 minutes of boring shots of people shooting at each other vaguely in Boba Fett yesterday, to a few small skirmishes with individual beats, with ups and downs. Like some proper filmmaking. (Also the kind of thrashing camerawork that stunt people tend to use when they're given directorial control - especially in the motel fight. Always been fascinated by that.)

The stuntwork in this show has generally been pretty good. I loved Harcourt's wall run to turn a grapple into a flip. Corridor Digital should do one of their Stuntmen React videos with that scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Oib-X-8p6I

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

cant cook creole bream posted:

While I agree that I want more Sophie Song, it seems unlikely.
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1490147882959314949?cxt=HHwWioC5qdfmiK4pAAAA

Maybe the bug will impersonate her a bit. Looking forward to a scene when she gets to meet Augur again.she was not fond of him.

Someone in Youtube comments made a horrifying realization with this: when the Butterflies are drinking their nectar, they must be lowering the tube through the hole in the skull out the mouth to their "seat."

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Rhyno posted:

Man, when Adrian slumped over in the car I about lost my poo poo.

The face he makes when he realizes the helmets are being tracked.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Senator Drinksalot posted:

I think there's only a handful of them that that's true for anyway and it was mostly the ones the US swept their pasts under the rug for when they put them on the space race team.

Von Braun did sort of do a 180 on his past when he supported the 60s civil rights movement, I guess. He never had to pay for his transgressions as a member of Hitler's inner circle though.

Evidence indicates Von Braun was forced to join the SS officially to keep his job. Even before the war, it was very hard to hold even a teaching or bus driving position without joining the Nazi Party. Denazification was very difficult because of how much work it took to figure out who was a real Nazi.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014



chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

https://twitter.com/jamesgunn/status/1492166209365753872?s=21

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

John Cena’s not afraid to ugly cry in front of everyone.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

https://youtu.be/3MMMe1drnZY

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

https://twitter.com/johncena/status/1494020154535067650?s=21

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Disney panicking and firing James Gunn was the best thing for superhero media.

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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

I was worried one last episode wasn’t enough, but they really did wrap everything up perfectly. loving bravo to Gunn and the rest of the team for what they accomplished.

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