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Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Jel Shaker posted:

i knew the timelines crossed but the whole establishment was turning a blind eye and not just him right? or it wasn’t even on his radar at least?

The entire establishment was absolutely turning a blind eye, yes

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Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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I quite enjoy the The Witcher show. It's nowhere near as good as the games and it's pretty dumb, but it's good clean dumb fantasy fun.

It's like HD Hercules or Xena.

Other telly I have recently enjoyed:

Station Eleven (seriously, watch this, it's really wonderful)
Yellowjackets (gets pretty dumb pretty quickly but very entertaining imo)

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Bug Squash posted:

Things are still bad and all, but not that long ago the polls had the Torys with a 20 point lead despite constant scandals. And you know there's only going to be more scandals because the PM is a dipshit.

I honestly don't give a single poo poo anymore

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Laughing my absolute loving arse off

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Jippa posted:

4 edibles with zero tolerance would be brutal. It makes it so much worse because it slow releases compared to smoking it which makes it front loaded. They should just take that guy home and let him go to bed.

Yeah that poor fucker is gonna be off the planet for, like, 48 hours, he won't be able to make a bowl of cereal let alone work

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Gonzo McFee posted:

I swear if they even touch a hair on sweet Ian's head I'll kick off

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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This song squanders itself with its bizarre mix of revolutionary fervor and reach-across-the-aisles lib brainery

It's a shame

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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:hai:

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Even by tory standards this seems dumb

About the only thing that might ever shift the needle properly with the grate british public is when people are directly hit in the financials, and this is taking the piss

We don't care about corruption, we love racism, we revel in incompetence, and we don't mind if our lives get worse year by year as long as it happens slowly and we have the usual Hates to distract us

But this is so big and obvious and in your face

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

I saw a cartoon around the time of the GFC of a giant robot destroying houses, with a father explaining that it was just the glorious free market doing it's thing and that they should rush out with their wallets to help it get back up when it fell down. I wish I could find it again because really it should be the response to every loving thing that gets said and done in politics for the last 20 years.

I have that somewhere, I'll try and dig it out for you when I get a sec

EDIT boosh

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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ThomasPaine posted:

Omicron trip report: absolute bullshit waste of time. I'm pretty much already recovered after 4 days except for a bit of congestion. At its worst it was congestion + a bit of a cough + mild fatigue and fever. I've had worse colds. As expected if you've had your 3x vaccines I don't think there's much point getting worked into a pit of existential despair about it. Unfortunately it does seem to be lingering. LFTs are still returning strong positives, so I'm still under house arrest. Hopefully only for a few more days, though apparently after 10 you're supposedly no longer contagious regardless of whether the tests pick it up? Idk.

After ten days you're allowed to leave self-isolation so long as you don't have a fever, regardless of whether you're still testing positive on LFTs.

Whether or not that means you're no longer contagious at that point is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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lol this country is diseased

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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This owns

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Guavanaut posted:

Speaking of cocks, I watched the NFT video and got this short Folding Ideas recommended, which I hadn't seen before and pretty much perfectly sums up what I thought about the whole thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-a9VDIbZCU

Yeah it's great.

I've only recently got turned on to Folding Ideas, I really enjoy his videos.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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HopperUK posted:

Ooo if you haven't check out the one he did about flat earthers, if only because the related video of his lake experiment is really beautiful and profound.

Also the lake is called Lake Minnewanka.

Yeah that one's particularly good

ThomasPaine posted:

e: Do LFTs show stronger lines the higher the viral load or is it just 'present y/n'? I'm hoping it's a former because the line was slightly fainter today, which hopefully means only another day or two or this nonsense.

Probably.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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jiggerypokery posted:

Boris obviously hired her from Chris Morris' agency for thick people to win arguments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYFQZFL0yoo

lol this rules, I really do need to actually watch Jam, I keep remembering to and then forgetting again

EDIT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t0Ocau-CUg

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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ThomasPaine posted:

This is pretty much on point, imo

We always tailor ourselves to our audience, but that's still us, and it's hollow to say 'oh no that's not the real me'. It's always the real you. You aren't the idealised image you think you are in your brain, you are what you say and do.

We are what we pretend to be
So we must be careful about what we pretend to be

Edit this quote is from a book about a playwright who is an allied spy who 'ironically' pretends to be a nazi propagandist for access, but winds up doing far too excellent a job at the latter, so it is particularly apposite for Jimmy.

If your audience responds to your 'ironic' fascist joke with enthusiastic hoots n hollers then it doesn't matter how nice you are in your heart, you're Doing Fascist Propaganda

Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Feb 6, 2022

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Can also confirm that induction hobs are brilliant

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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kingturnip posted:

Spotted in the Schadenfreude thread:

TLDR: ostensibly progressive economic plan passes only because a right-wing politician is too stupid to use his computer. I also appreciate the "You rigged the vote" histrionics from the neoliberals.

There's some quality 'left-wing splitters' in there too, if that's your drink of choice on a Sunday evening or you feel like filling out your Bingo card.

:sickos:

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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hahahahaha holy gently caress

These are the scrawlings of an infant

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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https://twitter.com/sajidjavid/status/1491396905838190594?s=20&t=f0qjcKo3oYrIuYg7rXaIpg

Todestrieb Island

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Removing the requirement to self-isolate at this moment is loving insanely irresponsible, regardless of "positive" trends

I'm sure one in two people probably are merrily wandering around spreading it to all and sundry already (because the English are loving cunts), but making that two in two people is, uh, not a great idea

Unless you wanna do eugenics

And don't give a gently caress about doing long term health damage to a non-significant percentage of your workforce

...oh

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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ThomasPaine posted:

because we're so loving black pilled that our brains cannot accept good news and will twist themselves into knots trying to prove that everything is, in fact, a hundred times worse than it is.

Let's be real, when you say "we" what you mean by this is "you lot, who disagree with me"

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Aipsh posted:

but I mean I guess it can’t go on forever.

It absolutely can and it almost certainly will!

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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It's always "if" with these people, always punting it into the long grass

Pathetic

Who gives a poo poo what this old tory oval office has to say, really? It's just more furrowed brows and concerned noises, signifying nothing

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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lol looks like King William's back on the menu boys

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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jiggerypokery posted:

There's a petition to stop the deportation for a popular Bristol character.

https://www.change.org/p/jeff-knight-petition-to-stop-deportation-of-a-bristol-legend

It bothers me that there's a big pushback because he's one well known person, and many many people get forgotten/ignored but I don't think that's a good reason at all not to get involved.

I really hope this ignites a new, broader movement against deportations.

Sucks poo poo, guy's a legend, used to brighten my walk back home almost every day

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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X-postin'

Barry Foster posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/11/world-experts-react-to-england-ending-covid-curbs

quote:

The UK’s prime minister, Boris Johnson, announced this week that he aimed to abolish all Covid regulations, including the requirement to isolate after testing positive, in England from 24 February. Here’s what experts around the world think of that plan, which would make Britain something of an outlier when it comes to coronavirus precautions.

France

France is unlikely to follow the UK in abandoning all coronavirus measures before late March or early April, according to Arnaud Fontanet, a senior epidemiologist at the Pasteur Institute and a member of the government’s scientific advisory council.

Fontanet said measures such as mask wearing, home working and quarantine remained vital in order to slow the number of infections and keep hospital admissions down. “Allowing the virus a free run would be a fundamental error,” he said.

“Quite small changes in behaviour can really influence the dynamic. Reducing contacts by just 20% – a bit of home working, wearing masks in indoor public spaces – now will halve the number of hospital admissions in a fortnight – we know this.”

Fontanet added that France’s vaccine pass, which has been needed since August to access leisure venues – including cafes and restaurants – and use long-distance public transport was also likely to remain in force until spring. “Vaccination, including boosters, is still key.”

He said infections had been falling, “but hospitals are under very heavy pressure and will remain so for some time. It’s too soon to lift restrictions now.”

Although societies will “need to learn to live with the virus”, he said, new variants will emerge and “we will have to decide what is acceptable. Do we accept 300 deaths a day, or are we prepared to reduce contacts again? Societies will have to decide, and different societies may decide differently.”

Jon Henley in Paris

Germany

“Britain’s management of the pandemic is being watched with interest in Germany,” said Johannes Knobloch, an infection prevention specialist at Hamburg’s University Medical Centre.

“It strikes me as quite brave to lift all restrictions at the same time. I would have thought it possible to keep in place some measures that aren’t too troublesome or intrusive – such as mandatory mask-wearing on public transport – but would still slow down the dynamic of new infections.

“Britain’s vaccination rates are encouraging, but the big challenge in the coming months will be to protect those for whom vaccines don’t offer protection, such as people undergoing cancer therapy.”

German states this week took steps to lift some restrictions, such as the rule whereby only those with proof of vaccination or recent recovery are allowed to access non-essential shops. Other rules, including FFP2 mask mandates in shops and on public transport and vaccine passport checks at restaurants and bars, remain in place.

“I don’t see Germany going down the UK’s path quite so quickly,” said Knobloch. “But then you need to bear in mind there are broader philosophical differences in our health system, with avoidance of death still playing a fundamental part in the German system, while Britain’s system places more emphasis on maintaining the ability to work.”

Philip Oltermann in Berlin

Spain

Prof Rafael Bengoa, a former World Health Organization health systems director who is now co-director of the Institute for Health and Strategy in Bilbao, said that while the lifting of restrictions in England would doubtless prove popular, it was premature.

“Because of our bias to normalcy, people want to believe it’s over, which is what politicians are saying,” said Bengoa. “But most of us in public health across Europe are saying that it’s not quite over and it’s not like the flu.”

He said lifting restrictions – especially the use of face masks in interior spaces – would slow down the descent rate of the Omicron wave because people would continue to get infected.

Bengoa also said that people who tested positive for the virus needed to stay in home quarantine for five to seven days. “If you over-normalise the situation – if you lift everything and you say, ‘This is over’ – people will not stay at home for those five or seven days,” he said.

“If you go out and infect children who are not completely vaccinated yet, and you go out and infect vulnerable people and immunocompromised people – and those three groups are not small in numbers – you’re going out to infect people who are still vulnerable. And since this is not like the flu, and it’s quite serious and you can also have long Covid with this, why is it that one needs to precipitate the lifting of restrictions so fast?”

Bengoa said that restrictions could be lifted in two months’ time, but added that Spain’s decision to maintain the use of masks in interior spaces and require people who test positive to self-isolate for seven days would accelerate the containment of the Omicron wave.

Sam Jones in Madrid

Italy

Italy has among the strictest Covid rules in Europe, with health passes required for everything from getting on a bus to going to work, and while the country is cautiously relaxing restrictions as infections and hospitalisations fall – the outdoor mask rule was dropped on Friday – scientists are perplexed by the UK’s plan to scrap quarantine rules for people who test positive for Covid-19, especially with the two countries still registering stubbornly high daily death rates.

“These are political choices, not scientific ones,” said Roberto Burioni, a professor of microbiology and virology at Vita-Salute San Raffaele University in Milan. “We’ve never quarantined people who have the flu, but the flu doesn’t kill two or three hundred people a day.”


Angela Giuffrida in Rome

Greece

In Greece, which has one of Europe’s highest Covid-19 death rates, reaction to the decision to end restrictions was relatively upbeat.

“I think the situation in the UK allows for relaxation of the measures,” said leading epidemiologist Gkikas Magiorkinis. “Given the country’s good vaccination and epidemiological profile, it seems to be a reasonable move.”

Magiorkinis, who sits on the committee of experts that advises the government, said Athens would likely follow suit if, at this point in the pandemic, Greece had similar rates of fatalities, hospitalisations and intubations. “We would end up doing the same,” he said.

“If the health system is not under heavy pressure, we need to use the opportunity to try and return to normality, because if, in five months’ time, there is another mutation, people might not listen to us, and that would be serious.”

Helena Smith in Athens

China

In the past two years, Britain has been used by Chinese media as an unsuccessful example in the fight against Covid. Some Chinese media outlets and social media users call the UK’s approach “lying flat” – tang ping - a term often used to describe individuals who strive for nothing more than what is absolutely essential.

State media cite criticisms over Johnson’s announcement, but Chinese experts have tried to understand the logic behind it, with some expressing admiration. The UK is now the first country prepared to achieve herd immunity, said Prof Chen Wenzhi of Chongqing Medical University. “This is because their scientists have said the peak of the new variant had passed … and suggested the end of the pandemic is in sight.”

Zhang Wenhong, one of the country’s best-known epidemiologists, recently used the UK as an example to persuade the Chinese public to get vaccinated as soon as possible. Citing data from the UK Health Security Agency, he said the reason why some countries could end restrictions was because vaccines had led to a dramatic reduction in hospitalisation and mortality rates.

Vincent Ni

New Zealand

In New Zealand, the epidemiologist and public health expert Prof Michael Baker said the data on hospitalisations and deaths from Covid-19 in the UK told their own story. “The numbers, I think, are screaming out a message [that] the pandemic response has been very poorly managed – the waste of lives, the excessive periods under lockdown and the flip-flopping policies.”

While death rates in the UK were down from their peak, he noted: “In New Zealand that would still be [equivalent to] 20 people dying a day – we would regard that as high mortality … On the face of it, it would certainly seem premature to be relaxing all safeguards.”

Inevitably, Baker said, the results would be felt more harshly by some than others – frontline workers, elderly people, ill people, the immuno-compromised. “That partly reflects just how the virus behaves and who’s most vulnerable, but also the priorities of different governments. Most of us would regard that the balance is not right in the UK in that respect – that there’s a need for greater emphasis on protecting the most vulnerable.”

“In terms of scientific depth, the UK is currently amongst the leading contributors to understanding [the] virus, and combating it at a science level … they gave us the AstraZeneca vaccine and some of the best large population studies in the world,” he said. “The science is absolutely top – it’s just the policy translation has been shockingly poor. That’s one of the frustrating things. We’d normally look to the UK … and they have not given us the leadership we’d hope for.”


Tess McClure in Auckland

Australia

Stuart Turville, associate professor in the immunovirology and pathogenesis program at the Kirby Institute, University of New South Wales, points out that the UK’s “base of immunity” is high and that “the waves of Delta and Omicron (albeit high) did not translate into the deaths that they observed in earlier waves”. But, he said: “There are always people in our community where vaccination is not an option – for example, because their vaccine response is not strong.”

The virologist’s primary concern was that Omicron would be replaced by another variant. “We planned for Delta and got Omicron, and although we didn’t have the lockdowns of the past, it did create significant disruption, not to mention those that also sadly passed away. I have always said it is better to be vigilant and cautious.”

He added: “It’s very difficult to predict this virus, though. It has made a fool of many of us.”

Melissa Davey in Sydney

Some savage stuff here lol, all of it true

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Regarde Aduck posted:

And i think ultimately it comes down to this: if you get to 60 and are still in relatively good health, would you want to be written off as 'done' because your 'neuroplasticity' is reduced?

I'm 35 and I'd love to be "done", to be honest

I'm still young enough to feel like I should be doing something useful with my life, but old enough that I just don't have the energy to start again

So yeah, I'd love for no-one to have any expectations of me anymore (least of all myself)

I would like to be as irrelevant as possible, pls

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

since some bloke found out there's plants that make food taste nice somewhere beyond the Himalayas.

There's what??? Bagsy, gently caress off, mine

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

Wait till you find out about this lovely shiny cloth they've got over there. Don't ask where it comes from though. I mean literally don't ask, the Emperor will have you tortured to death if you try and find out how they make it.

I already know that's worm turds, I have no interest in wearing literal poo poo, ugh

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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lol

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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"Angloid" makes me lol, ngl

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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The public health consequences of this, and of scrapping self-isolation, are going to be profound. But we will never know about it, except for the suspiciously high rates of heart disease, strokes, and excess deaths in the months and years and decades (yes, decades) to come

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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stupid kids, wait til they have REAL problems like:
had to wear mask - OPPRESSION
couldn't have haircut for THREE MONTHS
house value might not increase as much as expected!!!!!!
SCARGILL
non-ticks being RUDE on twitter
BLITZ (I Was In It)

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Guavanaut posted:

The sole funny thing about this pandemic is that the people who were convinced that they spent the summer of 1963 eating tinned beef in an Anderson shelter while the Kaiser bombed Telford and the people with stashes of internet MREs and ninja home defender magazines both lost their poo poo so easily, while the woke entitled youth (and people who have actually known crisis) mostly just got on with it as best they could.

Now that we're being psychologically moved onto the next crisis they have of course forgotten this immediately and are back onto everyone but them needing to toughen up by doing things they'll never be asked to.

Yeah this phenomenon in particular boils my piss, especially the memory holing aspect

Eternal Sunshine of the Boomer Mind

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Reveilled posted:

Older people use them to mean something completely different from younger people, they usually intend it to convey two things: a seperator, providing a beat that represents a change in context or that one thought builds on another. Think of situations where you might decide to send two messages to someone over something like WhatsApp rather than put everything you want to say in one message.

e.g.
What's the plan for today
I was thinking we'd go to the park
if that's ok with you?

vs.
What's the plan for today...I was thinking we'd go to the park...if that's alright with you...?

That also kind of shows the other part of ellipsis for older people, that they're generally intended to convey a casual tone. That's probably the most serious tonal whiplash for young people, but the idea is that you don't generally use ellipsis like this in formal writing, so its intended to come across as informal. You'd also use it in contexts where you don't have a huge amount of space to write, especially postcards (remember them?), so there's an undercurrent of whimsy and happiness because someone's writing to you the way they'd write you while on holiday. That's also why the TV show Wish You Were Here...? had that usage of ellipsis, it's intended to be playful.

Of course this doesn't apply in actually formal contexts. If someone's typing out full sentences and developed thoughts, ellipsis have their standard meaning of omitting irrelevant info or implying a conclusion.

If any of this interests you I'd highly recommend the book Because Internet by Gretchen McCullough, which is a good examination of the various writing styles of people who came to the internet at different times.

Yeah this checks out, my partner's mum types exactly like that on her whatsapp. Always reads like she's incredibly unsure of what she's actually typing

Also boomers don't get that punctuation (and full stops in particular) come across as being really cross to the internet generation. A friend of mine loves to talk about the time her mum sent her a text saying "happy birthday." haha

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Jakabite posted:

At the end of a long night, obviously, but just feel the need to express that I love you all. From Barry to owly to borrovan to jaeluni, you’ve somehow ended up as my most reliably support network, even if it’s just reading your posts. I know it’s frowned upon but I’d really love to buy you all a pint, or a cuppa, one day.

:respek:

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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josh04 posted:

Yeah, the idea is that if you're still testing positive after ten days and don't have symptoms then it's just dead virus material floating about in your sinuses and you aren't contagious any more. iirc you're then liberated from having to take tests for 90 days(?) but I can't find confirmation of that for Scotland.

Yes it's this, with the one caveat that PCRs will pop positive for up to 90 days (usually significantly less time) but after a shorter periods LFTs will work properly again

Anyway, yeah, you're free to leave, Octopus

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Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

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Camrath posted:

Ok, so now I’m cross.

As mentioned, I’ve got Covid. It sucks (though my case is quite mild- so much so that I thought it was just a return of unrelated problems. My wife has been much sicker.)

First symptoms showed up Wednesday last week, positive test taken on Saturday and I had a PCR test on Tuesday. So expectation was that I’d be free again on Saturday after the required 10 days isolation. Which has hosed my business and life over, but is survivable (incidentally if the goon with an order still outstanding is reading this, please make contact as to how you want me to proceed- I’ve emailed with no response).

I entered the code from the pcr test into the NHS Covid app today, and it wouldn’t let me select the date I first noticed symptoms. So had to go with ‘I can’t remember’. And now I’m being instructed to isolate until the 26th.

Losing a week, I can manage. Losing two in the run up to another large event in the first week of march will basically kill my capability to trade there, and utterly gently caress my earnings for the next couple of months. So my question to anyone who knows is, what should I do? Is the Covid app date checked up upon? Assuming I pass the ten days since first symptoms and/or get negative lft results, am I still stuck in here for another week on top of what I’m doing? Will I get in trouble if I go out before then in spite of negative tests and the original self isolation?

I realise this is me probably working myself into a lather unnecessarily, but my autistic nature about Rules is beating me around the head about it all, and frankly I /need/ to be shopping and cooking and mailing next week or I’m utterly hosed.

Just ignore it, seriously. If it makes you feel any better, this is the advice I would give in my actual job, which is about exactly this kinda stuff

No-one cares, the situation would be easily explainable even if they did (but they don't, at all, not even a tiny bit)

We're getting rid of free testing and self-isolation rules entirely next week anyway, because don't you know covid is over, baby (wolf howl)?

Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Feb 17, 2022

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