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Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Party like it's Jemrey Grobrin anti-semite disco again

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Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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NotJustANumber99 posted:

lol wtf is this?

It's either Britain's nuclear codes or the Sue Gray report.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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The Question IRL posted:

Ah, so Queen Elizabeth died in 2003 but the recording label couldn't let it go public, for some reason.

Does Andy Schlafly know that Fidel Castro outlived Elizabeth by three years??

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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fuctifino posted:

Ooops. That's embarrassing.

Well played :)

In other news, I've just had this photo of Nadine and her first husband pop up on my radar. She certainly goes for a type, doesn't she?


Who's mommy's Big Dog? Who is it? Yes, you are, Boris! Yes you are!

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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ThomasPaine posted:

I just don't get it, if my grandparents had moved to France from Britain and I was born in France and raised in France and spoke French, I'd be French, perhaps with British heritage, but definitely French. This doesn't seem very controversial to me, but would apparently be incomprehensible to lots of people, who seem to think that there's some permanent immutable distinction between 'nationality' tied to blood. Bizarre take.

I thought I'd discuss this still a bit further. In English Russians are just Russians. But in Russian language, there's two levels of being Russian: there's the russkii meaning ethnic Russians, and then you have rossiiskii which means citizens of Russia. So when you talk about someone being Russian, you need to be clear which one you mean or you might get into argument like you did.

Then there's the fact that ethnic Russians formed many Russian enclaves during the Soviet years in which they practically never had any contact with the local culture or language. This is very clear in the Baltic republics where the majoritys speak very difficult to learn, non-slavic and even non-indoeuropean languages. So e.g. when Estonia became independent they only gave citizenship automatically to those who had been citizens before the Soviet occupation and the descendants of them. Other residents had to apply for citizenship and pass a language test and a constitution test, which meant most of the Russian population in Estonia was required to learn the language. Or you could just use the Soviet passport that you still had and use it to apply for citizenship of Russian Federation. Today, three decades after independence, something like 7% of Estonia's residents are not citizens.

I suppose imagine that you were in an English family and your family moved to somewhere in Scotland. Then Scotland declared independence and made Scots and Gaelic the only official languages and a requirement for citizenship. What are the odds that, say, your parents would willingly assimilate, instead of sticking to the English community, watching BBC and reading Daily Mail? Maybe your kids would have a better chance of assimilating by going through the school system and conscription, but the chances are they would still identify as English because that's just how identity stuff seems to work.

Nenonen fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Feb 12, 2022

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Not So Fast posted:

NATO is a defensive allliance in the same way the Triple Entente / Triple Alliance was in 1914. It is a collection of imperialist states banding together and driving up sales for arms companies, while the working class underneath struggle to survive.

This isn't to say Russia is any better, it's not, but to recognise to what degree this discussion is being driven by propaganda from the media and NATO governments on how to approach them.

You really think that without Nato, European nations would be spending less on armaments??? :allears:

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Not So Fast posted:

My point is that NATO is just the latest expression for driving up arms sales and causing intra-imperialist conflicts. Unless European states all became socialist they would still have to find some way to create and exploit capital for that sector.

So you're saying that if we lived in a utopia then some things might be better? Now there's a thought.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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I thought the purpose of Brexit was that Eastern Europe discussions wouldn't enter the UK thread :thunk:

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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forkboy84 posted:

People can understand why Russia are deeply distrustful of NATO expansion without it actually being a defence of Putin the human being or an endorsement of his policies, domestic or international. Hope that helps.

Likewise people can understand why the neighbours of Russia are deeply distrustful of Russia's expansionism without it actually being a defence of western imperialism. So I guess there is zero difference between NATO expansion and Russian invasion.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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suck my woke dick posted:

When the guy with the nukes starts making demands and commits moderate outrages against international law, the guy with the nukes gets away with it.

But enough about Brexit.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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forkboy84 posted:

Average Sun reader tbh

Jermey Cobran must apologize and resign.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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big scary monsters posted:

I'll freely admit that I am almost entirely ignorant on the topic and don't really understand the Russia/Ukraine situation, but it's not clear to me why the UK & US are arming anyone there, or really are involved at all.

A war would practically wipe out all previous agreements on which the European security system is based on (OSCE and others in which they are all signatories in), i.e. that countries don't go invading and annexing their neighbours. This would be a massive crisis, leading to new militarization wave akin to the Cold War. Then there's the likelihood of a few million Ukrainian refugees coming to Poland.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Cookie Cutter posted:

NATO promised never to expand into these countries after the wall fell and kept that promise for all of 5 seconds. So who's the expansionist?

This is false Russian propaganda, you know?

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Camilla, 74, tests positive for corona
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-60377261

Hilarious if the next ones in line die of covid but Queen Lich keeps on kicking

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Rust Martialis posted:

Uhhhh George, Charlotte, Louis, Harry

Everyone gets into a massive car accident on the way to the funeral; Andrew is the only one left in the succession.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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big scary monsters posted:

Hard to argue - why, if the entire population died off but the money remained, the UK would be the richest country per capita on Earth!

Corporations are immortal people. Immortal people are gods. The gods require sacrifices!

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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kyojin posted:

Painting knowers what is the source painting?

First image search result:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applicants_for_Admission_to_a_Casual_Ward

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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I'm not an explosives expert but that got me curious - would a taser do anything to most explosives? Plastic explosives can be burned in a bonfire without them detonating, so I don't think just the heat from the current would do anything. And if all you needed for detonating plastic explosives was electricity then why even have a blasting cap, just use raw power?

And this is what 40kV passing through black powder granules looks like. Apparently gunpowder conducts electricity well enough that it doesn't heat up enough to set off.


Please note that I'm not endorsing the use of tasers in this post. Or of suicide vests.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Oh cool, the Bovington Tank Museum is showing the AVRE off!

quote:

The turret, initially not required, was retained allowing a spigot mortar firing a petard to be added. The petard mortar was a separate development, firing a large demolition charge, the "Bomb, Demolition Number I", that became known as the "flying dustbin". Development on this began in September 1942 and was united with the Churchill turret following experimental use on a Covenanter tank. With plenty of space inside the Churchill, a number of "flying dustbins" could be carried in addition to the demolitions stores. The petard was reloaded through a sliding cover that replaced one of the forward drivers hatches in the top of the hull.



AVRE (Armoured Vehicle Royal Engineers)'s spigot mortar, the flying dustbin and a Royal 'Gineer.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Guavanaut posted:

Contrary to popular belief, that is not what sans-culottes means.

Boo! I was going to make that joke! Off with their pants! :guillotine:

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Remember when Parents Against Dungeons and Dragons cancelled Gary Gygax or when Jack Thompson cancelled video games? Good times.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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That's well thought out, FIATs really suck rear end.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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https://twitter.com/islingtonchap/status/1496051046938034176?s=21

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Dabir posted:

Russia does have a much bigger military but they have to keep most of it committed to other things, like defending the rest of their enormous borders. Ukraine gets to use all of theirs. Russia has more manpower, can't do much about that, but the equipment difference where they really blow Ukraine out of the water, and you can make up that difference pretty effectively if you're smart about what you send. An anti tank missile costs much less than a tank, for instance.

Ukraine also has to defend all of that long, long border it has with Russia and Belarus. The attacker always has it easier, as they can decide where to actually concentrate the attack.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Bug Squash posted:

Quit posting and go watch Robocop. Not directed at anyone, we should all do this.

Start streaming and post a link, I'll watch

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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domhal posted:

Maybe I'm missing something, but why would there be a need to establish anything about a piece of work going to exhibit?

If they are saying that Israeli cops murdered a bedouin and then lied about it, then they really should back it up with facts.

Which I trust they did. But those kinds of facts are bad for Israel! :byodood:

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Pistol_Pete posted:

It's so surreal seeing all the war fever in the press over a conflict that we're not involved in and aren't going to get involved in. All this breathless, pompous posturing: it's like a bizarre piece of performance art.

How horrible, fantastic, incredible, it is that we should be preparing for energy price hikes and hacker attacks here because of a quarrel in a faraway country between people of whom we know nothing :wotwot:

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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Does the red circle around London mean that Labour is gaining seats? City falls to libdems though?

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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If Jeremy Corbyn became PM he would first get rid of the Tridents and next thing is Putin drops Tsar Bomba on Big Ben

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Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

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This is literally like the Kristallnacht, Jeremy Corbyn must apologize and resign.

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