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This is my first post on here but I'm excited to see what everyone has to say. I'm wondering, what do you think America will be like in the future? Maybe 10 years, 20 years, or 100 years. It can be video games, the government, movies, or just random stuff. I would like to hear what everyone has to say.
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Feb 1, 2022 20:40
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Well, we seem to be living in a pivotal moment in history, here in the States. I know the future I'm working for: a USA that spends the next decades enacting a Just Transition to a more equitable society, focusing on emissions mitigation and climate adaptation at home while also leading the democracies of the world in climate cooperation and coordination abroad. I think that future is achievable, though by no means guaranteed. In, let's say 20 years, I would hope to see a US that's fully and completely led by Millenials and Zoomers, and a society that has purged the fever of fascism from the mainstream (where it is now) and re-committed to a degree of social cooperation that our parents rejected and our grandparents knew fleetingly.
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Feb 1, 2022 21:47
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How are u posted:Well, we seem to be living in a pivotal moment in history, here in the States. I know the future I'm working for: a USA that spends the next decades enacting a Just Transition to a more equitable society, focusing on emissions mitigation and climate adaptation at home while also leading the democracies of the world in climate cooperation and coordination abroad.
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Feb 1, 2022 21:50
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The failure of Bernie-ism, wokeism, and the various identitarian movements over the next ten to fifteen years will cause burnout resulting in the top tier of college-educated zoomers selling out in exchange for lucrative consulting, finance, and new media jobs. Millenials will continue to struggle financially and fail at life development benchmarks like buying homes and marriage. Meanwhile, climate change will continue but Africa, South America, and India will be most affected. Larger refugee migrations will cause strain throughout the Middle East, with knock-on effects in Europe. The same phenomenon will occur but less so in the United States, where assimilated Latines will form the backbone of anti-immigrant politics against the masses of Central American indigenous. The United States will benefit from climate change inasmuch as it will be least negatively affected. Ultimately, developments in AI will get to the point where larger and larger sectors of the economy can be turned over to them, as financial markets functionally already are. At some point in the next 100 years, technocapitalism will shake off the husk of humanity like a parasitoid wasp emerging from a caterpillar.
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Feb 1, 2022 22:29
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An Authoritarin government in 2025, given the electoral trends. And more climate chaos.
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Feb 1, 2022 23:09
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I'm expecting we will devolve into corporation dominated feudal territories as the federal government continues to be strangled to death as capitalists become more and more brazen as they jockey for position and power at everyone else's expense.
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Feb 1, 2022 23:13
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Slow decline as rot and climate change cause an ailing federal government to not be able to respond quick enough eventually leading to balkanization.
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Feb 1, 2022 23:14
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Mad Max but you have to take your rusty car to an authorised mechanic as it refuses to be serviced by anyone else.
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Feb 2, 2022 08:33
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The presidency, post Trump (whenever that is, and whatever it’s aftermath entails) is going to look a lot like the mayors office of a big city. Turnout will drop precipitously because even though there will be culture war bs to argue about, deep down voters will know the president (and the government at large) has no strong role to play in shaping the future. It will be forces out of their hands, particularly corporate power, global finance, and courts. The president will just be a whipping boy you get to yell at. To that end, you might see some mayors start to do better in primaries, at least for democrats. I think Eric Adams could do well if he runs in 28 or even 24.
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Feb 2, 2022 09:11
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The majority of these posts are basically "we're hosed" but I think people are underestimating the possibility of change. Neoliberalism has trained us to think that no other world is possible, but there's lots of people out there wanting change and will jump at opportunities for it. Look at what happened with the George Floyd uprising, all the people around the world protesting and demanding justice and change, and trying out alternative models of living outside of capitalism like CHAZ. "We're hosed" can seem like the most realist perspective, but it's far from imaginative or useful to inspire people to change. Change always seems unthinkable until it comes to surprise you. E: just think of all the predictions for the future made by past generations based on what they saw of the present and how often ridiculous or wrong such predictions were. Malthus couldn't predict worth poo poo. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 10:07 on Feb 2, 2022 |
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Feb 2, 2022 09:59
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All of the terrible things that have been said already, plus at least one major crop monoculture getting wiped out from some new fungus or other disease, leading to mass global starvation, including the American poor. Also, water wars are coming unless technology makes desalination scalable, cheap, emissions-free, and effortless and quick to construct.
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Feb 2, 2022 10:12
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i assume that one day ill get shipped off to go fight the nazis in america or whatever continent they invaded for resources. so that should be exciting
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Feb 2, 2022 10:50
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quarantinethepast posted:Look at what happened with the George Floyd uprising, all the people around the world protesting and demanding justice and change, and trying out alternative models of living outside of capitalism like CHAZ. The result of the Floyd uprising was a nationwide increase in police budgets and CHAZ killed two black kids and covered it up.
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Feb 2, 2022 16:14
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The way people predict the future is always "whatever is in the news today will be that but times ten" but the future is never actually like that, it's always a bunch of new stuff.
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Feb 2, 2022 16:20
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ANOTHER SCORCHER posted:The result of the Floyd uprising was a nationwide increase in police budgets and CHAZ killed two black kids and covered it up.
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Feb 2, 2022 16:27
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Wake up at 6am, get in my Tesla and take the Atlanta-Boca Chica tunnel to catch the next Starship to Mars for a 12 months tour as a Martian toilet cleaner. Buy a NFT of a funny frog pic from the money.
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Feb 2, 2022 16:39
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quarantinethepast posted:The majority of these posts are basically "we're hosed" but I think people are underestimating the possibility of change. Neoliberalism has trained us to think that no other world is possible, but there's lots of people out there wanting change and will jump at opportunities for it. Agreed, and that's something that allows me to continue to hope and work for change. Everything is impossible right up until the moment it isn't.
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Feb 2, 2022 16:41
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God willing, we will live to see a triple stuf Oreo
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Feb 2, 2022 17:01
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things are going to continue to get much, much worse for nearly everyone, which will be awful but also lead to the resurgence of an organized, militant labor movement that will eventually but inevitably overthrow capitalism if a habitable biosphere exists afterwards remains to be seen
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Feb 2, 2022 18:09
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ANOTHER SCORCHER posted:The result of the Floyd uprising was a nationwide increase in police budgets and CHAZ killed two black kids and covered it up. If civilian run zones also kill black kids and cover it up, we SHOULD defund the police. At that point it's just redundant spending
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Feb 4, 2022 04:34
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Defeated in a war with China and becomes fully fascist Or takes the steps needed to save the republic: notably a crushing of religion and banning on children as private property of the parents.
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Feb 4, 2022 05:12
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Vasukhani posted:banning on children as private property of the parents. Huh? What do you mean by this
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Feb 4, 2022 05:55
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Vasukhani posted:Defeated in a war with China and becomes fully fascist I don't think religion is the whole problem. There are and have been religious people that fought on the side of justice like MLK or Malcolm X, John Brown, Nat Turner. Look at black and latino communities and you will see a lot of deeply Christian (and Muslim) people that have their faith without the hate. How often do rappers invoke their faith, quite a lot, you can go all the way back to the slave spirituals. Religion has been intertwined with black culture and civil rights. It's not just religion, in fact religion is just a mirror of deeper beliefs and structures. The prosperity gospel poo poo is just an attempt to justify capitalism through God. Some people use God to justify why the world is poo poo and to give up on chances to improve it looking for otherworldly hopes, Nietzsche and Marx were writing about this a hundred years ago. But religion is just a tool, a basis to justify something. And that something doesn't have to be capitalism and white supremacy. The USSR tried to suppress religion for a time, I would say even with good intentions, but with its death Russia became that more reactionary and the religion that much more zealous and hateful. Just look at how LGBT people are treated in Russia today. The more you try to suppress something, the more virulent it becomes like the War on Drugs. What is needed not a suppression of religion, but to show to the world that Christianity can be something different. Jesus was a socialist. E: but I agree that I don't like where this great power conflict is going and how it distracts from the problems we have right here. E1: but also this invocation of ideas from Marxism-Leninism is also kind of not creative. Lenin said that ML comes to every country differently. The revolution is not coming by just copypasting what Lenin and Mao did. America Inc. fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Feb 4, 2022 |
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Feb 4, 2022 06:58
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quarantinethepast posted:The majority of these posts are basically "we're hosed" but I think people are underestimating the possibility of change. Neoliberalism has trained us to think that no other world is possible, but there's lots of people out there wanting change and will jump at opportunities for it. Yeah, I think "we're hosed" is too simplistic an answer. My gut feeling for a while has been that all this poo poo will continue until some kind of too-obvious-to-be-denied tipping point galvanizes the people and forces widespread systematic change. That might be a civil war, it could be Miami becoming uninhabitable due to climate change, or maybe it'll just be the gradual continuing radicalization of everyone younger than 45. Basically, all our systems were rickety to begin with and now they're falling apart. Get to know your neighbors and be ready in case things go the rest of the way to hell, but the accelerationists and keyboard warriors aren't too likely to get what they want.
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Feb 4, 2022 09:16
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America failed to take the appropriate steps at the right time and will thus will slowly fade from relevance and most likely collapse into a series of smaller states. I give it about 15-20 years max, in 10 the decline will be obvious and undeniable as you'll slowly start noticing certain products and brands disappear from continent wide distribution or literally become unaffordable (honestly already happening, just putting a V8 in a wrangler makes it worth $100k apparently lmao). If this whole Russia/Ukraine thing goes tits up and we end up getting dick slapped it'll happen even faster as all our defensive arrangements start looking like hollow promises by paper tigers and the MIC grinds to a screeching halt. No one will ever directly attack us due to our vast nuclear arsenal so we'll just sit here at home until we die. Nevermind the logistics that are already straining and showing no signs of being even band-aided along...
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Feb 4, 2022 11:49
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CMD598 posted:America failed to take the appropriate steps at the right time and will thus will slowly fade from relevance and most likely collapse into a series of smaller states. I give it about 15-20 years max, in 10 the decline will be obvious and undeniable as you'll slowly start noticing certain products and brands disappear from continent wide distribution or literally become unaffordable (honestly already happening, just putting a V8 in a wrangler makes it worth $100k apparently lmao). If this whole Russia/Ukraine thing goes tits up and we end up getting dick slapped it'll happen even faster as all our defensive arrangements start looking like hollow promises by paper tigers and the MIC grinds to a screeching halt. No one will ever directly attack us due to our vast nuclear arsenal so we'll just sit here at home until we die. If anything we or the successor states will remain relevant for that alone
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Feb 4, 2022 15:11
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The continued exploitation and suffering of the working class so corporate execs can continue having expensive leadership retreats at Mandarin Oriental or MGM Grand venues
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Feb 4, 2022 15:12
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Fritz the Horse posted:Huh? What do you mean by this Code phrase for pedophiles
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Feb 4, 2022 16:08
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Fritz the Horse posted:Huh? What do you mean by this Banning homeschooling would be a start, but ultimately the next generation must be indoctrinated to republican values, citizens must always belong to the state, rather than pre-modern kinship groups. Do you really want trump voters raising new generations of trump voters? Breaking that chain is an unfinished step in completing America's Civil War. quarantinethepast posted:I don't think religion is the whole problem. There are and have been religious people that fought on the side of justice like MLK or Malcolm X, John Brown, Nat Turner. Look at black and latino communities and you will see a lot of deeply Christian (and Muslim) people that have their faith without the hate. How often do rappers invoke their faith, quite a lot, you can go all the way back to the slave spirituals. Religion has been intertwined with black culture and civil rights. John Brown was part of a line of puritan radicals, they would be anti-theists if they lived today. Ideas like eternal life, and non-materiality are anti-democratic. You are an animal with no intrinsic value. Death destroys you. These must be the foundation of any rational state. wisconsingreg fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Feb 4, 2022 |
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Feb 4, 2022 17:25
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Vasukhani posted:John Brown was part of a line of puritan radicals, they would be anti-theists if they lived today. Ideas like eternal life, and non-materiality are anti-democratic. You are an animal with no intrinsic value. Death destroys you. John Brown would not be an "anti-theist" are you loving kidding me lmao
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Feb 4, 2022 17:31
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:John Brown would not be an "anti-theist" are you loving kidding me lmao Puritans in the US literally became deists and atheists. Their belief was based on a pre-modern messianism, with modernity we have the power to create that new Jerusalem here, universally, for all.
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Feb 4, 2022 17:35
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you're conflating your own weird thoughts about anyway I won't bother reading replies to this because it's clear you're trying to use this thread to dump the same sort of dumbass teenage atheist contrarianism and unwelcome suicidal ideation that you keep getting kicked out of covid threads for so I'll just take this opportunity to recommend you see a therapist and wish you luck in the coming year
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Feb 4, 2022 17:42
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Vasukhani posted:Banning homeschooling would be a start, but ultimately the next generation must be indoctrinated to republican values, citizens must always belong to the state, rather than pre-modern kinship groups. Do you really want trump voters raising new generations of trump voters? Breaking that chain is an unfinished step in completing America's Civil War. They should cut someone's heart open and then have them watch while they tell them a story about damsel flies then tell us about it through relaxation tapes.
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Feb 4, 2022 17:56
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Vasukhani posted:Banning homeschooling would be a start, but ultimately the next generation must be indoctrinated to republican values, citizens must always belong to the state, rather than pre-modern kinship groups. Do you really want trump voters raising new generations of trump voters? Breaking that chain is an unfinished step in completing America's Civil War. Public schooling is downward-mobility training imposed by the cognitive elite, who exclusively send their children to private schools, on everyone else. Homeschooling is one way people try to escape this system. Citizens belonging to the state is just boring old fascism.
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Feb 4, 2022 18:02
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cognitive elite?
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Feb 4, 2022 18:05
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Cognitive elite is a weird rear end term but it's not very controversial to point out private school is the beginning of an Us/Them divide between classes.
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Feb 4, 2022 18:07
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Well-educated, intelligent, system-beneficiaries: Business owners, private doctors, law firm lawyers, the upper rungs of the PMC and capitalists. Contrast that with the well-educated, intelligent, system-maintainers: Social workers, nonprofit email factory workers, teachers.
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Feb 4, 2022 18:16
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ANOTHER SCORCHER posted:Public schooling is downward-mobility training imposed by the cognitive elite, who exclusively send their children to private schools, on everyone else. Homeschooling is one way people try to escape this system. Citizens belonging to the state is just boring old fascism. my kid will deffo become a doctor if i homeschool them, so they dont learn about things like gender also citizens being members of a state, belonging to it and making it up, is just republicanism. I actually don't think many Americans are okay with True Republicanism and would prefer a quasi feudal system with noble rights and privileges. wisconsingreg fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Feb 4, 2022 |
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Feb 4, 2022 18:23
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ANOTHER SCORCHER posted:Public schooling is downward-mobility training imposed by the cognitive elite, who exclusively send their children to private schools, on everyone else. Homeschooling is one way people try to escape this system. Citizens belonging to the state is just boring old fascism. The only time public schools had quality across the board was during the height of Cold War after Sputnik. That also gave us, for a brief amount of time, almost free college and university education. I benefited from it.
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Feb 4, 2022 18:37
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VideoGameVet posted:The only time public schools had quality across the board was during the height of Cold War after Sputnik. That also gave us, for a brief amount of time, almost free college and university education. Segregation and American economic dominance on the back of a destroyed Europe, a closed-off Second World, and a still-colonized Africa and Asia permitted brief intra-White competitive peace for positions of wealth and success. That cannot be replicated and it would be monstrous to try.
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Feb 4, 2022 18:48
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