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America failed to take the appropriate steps at the right time and will thus will slowly fade from relevance and most likely collapse into a series of smaller states. I give it about 15-20 years max, in 10 the decline will be obvious and undeniable as you'll slowly start noticing certain products and brands disappear from continent wide distribution or literally become unaffordable (honestly already happening, just putting a V8 in a wrangler makes it worth $100k apparently lmao). If this whole Russia/Ukraine thing goes tits up and we end up getting dick slapped it'll happen even faster as all our defensive arrangements start looking like hollow promises by paper tigers and the MIC grinds to a screeching halt. No one will ever directly attack us due to our vast nuclear arsenal so we'll just sit here at home until we die. Nevermind the logistics that are already straining and showing no signs of being even band-aided along...
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RBA Starblade posted:If anything we or the successor states will remain relevant for that alone "Relevant" is a highly variable term. You can have nukes but still be a loving joke and international pariah. I'm expecting US successor states to be either decent places or North Korea but with Jesus. StratGoatCom posted:Ehhh, getting a good supply of warm bodies might be difficult with a lot of long covid around. It's worse and even more simple than that: Imagine that the US Military has not actually recovered from the fall of the Soviet Union and had already gone all in some really expensive flashy programs to counter imaginary Soviet threats and gave gently caress all concern about anything else while everything else is just 1970s tech but with LCD monitors. But since you mention manpower: Most GWOT vets are still alive and probably not thrilled with the idea of their little timmy enlisting after their time in.
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