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ANOTHER SCORCHER
Aug 12, 2018
The failure of Bernie-ism, wokeism, and the various identitarian movements over the next ten to fifteen years will cause burnout resulting in the top tier of college-educated zoomers selling out in exchange for lucrative consulting, finance, and new media jobs. Millenials will continue to struggle financially and fail at life development benchmarks like buying homes and marriage.

Meanwhile, climate change will continue but Africa, South America, and India will be most affected. Larger refugee migrations will cause strain throughout the Middle East, with knock-on effects in Europe. The same phenomenon will occur but less so in the United States, where assimilated Latines will form the backbone of anti-immigrant politics against the masses of Central American indigenous. The United States will benefit from climate change inasmuch as it will be least negatively affected.

Ultimately, developments in AI will get to the point where larger and larger sectors of the economy can be turned over to them, as financial markets functionally already are. At some point in the next 100 years, technocapitalism will shake off the husk of humanity like a parasitoid wasp emerging from a caterpillar.

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ANOTHER SCORCHER
Aug 12, 2018

quarantinethepast posted:

Look at what happened with the George Floyd uprising, all the people around the world protesting and demanding justice and change, and trying out alternative models of living outside of capitalism like CHAZ.

The result of the Floyd uprising was a nationwide increase in police budgets and CHAZ killed two black kids and covered it up.

ANOTHER SCORCHER
Aug 12, 2018

Fritz the Horse posted:

Huh? What do you mean by this

Code phrase for pedophiles

ANOTHER SCORCHER
Aug 12, 2018

Vasukhani posted:

Banning homeschooling would be a start, but ultimately the next generation must be indoctrinated to republican values, citizens must always belong to the state, rather than pre-modern kinship groups. Do you really want trump voters raising new generations of trump voters? Breaking that chain is an unfinished step in completing America's Civil War.

John Brown was part of a line of puritan radicals, they would be anti-theists if they lived today. Ideas like eternal life, and non-materiality are anti-democratic. You are an animal with no intrinsic value. Death destroys you. These must be the foundation of any rational state.

Public schooling is downward-mobility training imposed by the cognitive elite, who exclusively send their children to private schools, on everyone else. Homeschooling is one way people try to escape this system. Citizens belonging to the state is just boring old fascism.

ANOTHER SCORCHER
Aug 12, 2018
Well-educated, intelligent, system-beneficiaries: Business owners, private doctors, law firm lawyers, the upper rungs of the PMC and capitalists.

Contrast that with the well-educated, intelligent, system-maintainers: Social workers, nonprofit email factory workers, teachers.

ANOTHER SCORCHER
Aug 12, 2018

VideoGameVet posted:

The only time public schools had quality across the board was during the height of Cold War after Sputnik. That also gave us, for a brief amount of time, almost free college and university education.

I benefited from it.

Segregation and American economic dominance on the back of a destroyed Europe, a closed-off Second World, and a still-colonized Africa and Asia permitted brief intra-White competitive peace for positions of wealth and success. That cannot be replicated and it would be monstrous to try.

ANOTHER SCORCHER
Aug 12, 2018

punk rebel ecks posted:

Now I am in no way, shape or, form saying that we should abandon fighting for things like pronouns in order to secure votes. But what I am saying that the American Left needs to focus on a clear cut message to recruit large sums of people from this demographic who don't typically vote. As of now, the American Left is looking to get more of the Latino vote out, but instead they can only get the Latinx vote out, and this why they continuously lose.

I agree with a lot of this post, and believe it to be in good faith, but I want to point out how this paragraph illustrates a weakness among even smart members of the progressive left faction. You correctly diagnose that the progressive left is the most reliable and disproportionately whitest segment of the Democratic Party. You correctly see that this is a problem, but then you still have to do this rhetorical flourish where you pretend working class and people of color voters are somehow just not educated or enlightened enough but that is an issue of focus rather than just being one of conflict.

Most working class and people of color voters want to give their family a good life and be, broadly, as left alone as they can be. The obsession by the progressive left of elevating certain members of those classes who agree with them is accurately seen as just picking select puppets. Consider how “Black Loves Matter” teaching packets used in Florida teaching mostly contain materials about affirming trans youth. Black people see that, not incorrectly, as smuggling in an entirely separate issue into something they believe in or think is important. But it matters to white “allies” and their chosen Black spokespeople.

Unfortunately, the goal of “give people the resources to take care of their families” and “break up people’s families because the structure is patriarchal, racist, etc.” are in conflict and no amount of lying to working class or people of color will change this. The Progressive Left needs to pick whether they want to build sustainable, healthy, economically viable families or they want people to be autonomous, genderless, history-free individuals.

ANOTHER SCORCHER
Aug 12, 2018
"Kid-Friendly" Version of the 13 Principles of Black Lives Matter by Lalena Garcia

This is widely used in an early childhood education context to teach kids about racial equity. Two of these Black Lives Matters principles are "queer-affirming" and "transgender affirming", and the one about "Black villages" is circumspect way of talking about the (admirable given historical context, but ultimately maladaptive) large extended matriarchal kinship networks that Black families have used to survive White supremacy and capitalism.

Want to Dismantle Capitalism? Abolish the Family

This has some valuable ideas about respecting pregnancy as work, and then veers off into complete nonsense such as "black motherhood was always queer".

Modern American politics is easiest to understand if you see the Democrats and Republicans as two wings of liberal (as in Enlightenment liberalism) ideology. Republicans appeal to the liberal subject as master - most specifically as owner of property and manager of a business but that same concept applies to hierarchical structures like fathers as heads of the household and a general sympathy for preserving caste-based rule. Democrats are the liberal subject as individual - most innocently the idea that someone can be anything they want regardless of their race or gender but also that history, culture, and even biology should not bind you. One of the best examples of how this liberal-as-individual-subject ideology is expressed is the shifting conversation about race. Historically, the civil rights movement was about winning jobs (primarily for men), political equality, and addressing specific injustices that were done to Black Americans who were descendants of slaves. Now, modern racial ideology sees its fullest expression in the arts, fashion, and tv. It is about being who you want to be, with no one defining you, and it applies to everyone who does not fit into an increasingly smaller cis-white-hetero-male box. Justice for Black people was once a way to win political and economic equality, and now it is selling a product mostly to non-Black people.

This becomes a problem when the ideology of getting to be whatever you want with no limits conflicts with the deeply held moral beliefs of Black and Latine people (specifically men), who are increasingly dropping out of politics. A Black father likely does not want a 25-year-old they/them teacher telling his 12-year-old son to wear a dress, but that is what voting for the Democratic party will get you. It also might win you a new HBO series about Black Excellence. What it will not get you is jobs for your community, or economic support, or an affirmation of your religion or beliefs.

To bring this back on topic, the Democratic Party's only option will be to lean further into this ideology, as Republicans take more and more of the dropouts from Progressive capture of the party. The Democrats will be the party of wealthier, college-educated whites; select upwardly-mobile fashionable minorities (almost entirely women and gay men); and queer people in general.

ANOTHER SCORCHER
Aug 12, 2018

punk rebel ecks posted:

I find it odd that part of my write up was quoted when the small paragraph right above it gave it context.

What I was saying that the groups I was speaking of earlier don’t have to be diehard for gender identity. But at least be willing to form an alliance with the existing leftwing factions to work on things that are in agreement like healthcare, bigger government, wages, inequality, etc.

Similar to how there may be a divide between the Republicans and core issues like immigration or holding big corps accountable (from the same Pew Research source) but at the end of the day they vote for the American right doctrine of lower taxes, “states rights”, and imperialism.

The issues brought into question wouldn’t be abandoned or stalled, they’ll just be worked alongside other issues at the same time as some working class/poor will see accepting such issues they are hesitant toward as a trade off for issues more akin to their survival.

EDIT - To further elaborate, many minorities, poor, working class, and similar groups don’t see the Democratic Party and even further Left organizations fighting “for them”. They don’t feel that these groups are going to do things like give hard no string investments into their communities, jobs with higher wages, root out corruption, address public safety, give them healthcare coverage, so they don’t bother with them.

They either see them as another cog in the system or idealists who don’t understand how things work thus are destined to fail. It’s up to the America Left to find ways to convince them that isn’t the case for the entire left of center of the country’s politics.

This is the only way forward and where the nation goes hinges on this.

You keep saying convince like the American "Left" (as if such a thing could meaningfully exist in the Imperial core) problem is one of marketing or image, or maybe at best one of priorities. That refuses to see that there is a conflict between the project of Mostly-White Progressives and the Mostly-Brown Working Class, and that conflict needs to be resolved. In fact, it is being resolved, in favor of the Mostly-White Progressives who ultimately benefit from low taxes, competitive charter schools, and what passes for meritocracy. Your proposed solution of priorities is to bribe the Mostly-Brown Working Class into not being the kind of bigot you dislike in exchange for money or social programs or better trade deals. Is it any wonder they reject that generous offer?

The program you're selling to a Black father who works as a maintenance man is you will give him a higher wage, and in exchange his son will be convinced by a teacher to identify as a woman, his daughter will focus on becoming the first Black woman manager at Northrup-Grumman and have at most 1 child if that, and he'll get some television programs that celebrate Black people as uncomplicated paragons of virtue. That deal is clearly being offered by people who despise and hate him, his beliefs, and his life.

Ultimately the Democrats will become the party of people who went to college and learned to say and think the right things, and the Republicans will be everyone else. That will probably be bad for the country but America is a bad place anyways, so eh.

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ANOTHER SCORCHER
Aug 12, 2018

Pentecoastal Elites posted:

The algorithms these companies use are designed to keep you on the site as much as possible. They like the things you click like on (you're willing to spend more time on the feed if it's full of The reason people are falling into these weird alternative views of reality and cultlike groups is because we are all miserable, and we are all alienated from any sort of political power we might have had. You're seeing the shared culture cracking as people increasingly become unable to ignore the contradiction of what they've been told their whole lives in terms of their freedoms, their rights, the democratic nature of the society we live in, a person's ability to lift themselves up by their bootstraps, etc., etc., and the material reality of the world that they see around them, which they are powerless to change.

What is also funny about these effects and those who think our "democracy" is in decline because of Facebook is how powerless at actually changing politics they are. A half year of grassroots, direct action, social media driven BLM protest ended with the Democratic party rallying around police forces and agreeing to fund them more. Alleged Russian interference and Qanon crazines generated Trump, who governed as basically a standard Republican with slightly ruder rhetoric.

Facebook is not going to destroy our democracy, it is going to maintain the oligarchy we've always had. That's bad, but not for the reason people think.

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