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This thread is for providing relief for Ukraine and possible Charities you can donate to. These are the groups we've vetted. If you donate to others, particularly those that aren't reputable, you run the risk of identity theft, misappropriation of your funds, or your money being managed by people with connections to the far right, due to Ukraine's history. Thank you for doing good things, goons. quote:Caritas-https://www.caritas.org/: A confederation of Catholic charities around the world that provides aid to refugees, displaced people, and the vulnerable. Klaus88 posted:So uh, This War of Mine is having a sale and donating the profits to the Ukrainian red cross. CommieGIR posted:This one is personally close to my heart as someone trained in Nuclear Energy: Potential Gangtag by goon Loden Taylor   FYI if you have 3 gangtags, you will either have to choose one to replace or marquee them! So be warned! The following orgs have questionable activities or associations and we don't recommend donating to them:The Canada-Ukraine Foundation (CUF) is linked to far-right Ukrainian Nationalist / Banderites. The Ukrainian Congress Committee of America (UCCA) is involved with historical rehabilitation/revisionism of far-right figures, including some who committed war crimes. The Ukrainian National Federation (UNF) openly states they consider themselves to be a spiritual successor to the right-wing ultranationalist OUN. Razom for Ukraine is a group tied to several Banderite/Far Right groups. They were attached to the Humble Bundle (Thanks to Paul_soccer12 for this info) Come Back Alive supplies military equipment and training including to Azov Battalion. Somebody fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Mar 27, 2022 |
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KillHour posted:I haven't gone back through the shitshow that was the first 50 pages of the Ukraine thread to figure out how much my stupid Your Toxx is fulfilled, and thank you for donating KillHour.
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Feb 24, 2022 04:15
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We are working on a gangtag for those who donate.
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Feb 25, 2022 14:18
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Eric Cantonese posted:Do I need to put up a screencap of the donation record? I donated to the IRC two days ago. It'd be nice, but not required.
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Feb 25, 2022 15:52
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Preview of possible gangtag by Loden Taylor
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Feb 25, 2022 19:09
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Eric Cantonese posted:Having thought about this some more, I think I'll just be happy I was able to donate. I don't need a tag. Got it Eric thanks anyways, I've removed your name from the gangtag list.
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Feb 25, 2022 19:28
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Names are being collected guys! If you donate and DO NOT want the gangtag, just let me know.
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Feb 25, 2022 19:42
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KillHour posted:It's cool but I would do the "go gently caress yourself" part in the original Russian(?) We can work on that. I need the text.
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Feb 25, 2022 20:05
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CuddleCryptid posted:I appreciate the effort of the mods, but I mostly posted my donation here just to encourage others to donate as well, I don't need a gang tag. Thank you for putting one together though. Got it, thanks for donating anyways!
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Feb 25, 2022 20:26
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Just a note guys: We really appreciate you donating to all these groups, its scary times. Please protect your identity and your financial information protected, only donate to groups you know are verified if possible unless you know someone personally or have a verified relief effort through official channels Please keep doing good things goons
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Feb 25, 2022 21:31
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peej posted:I went to the Ukrainian credit union in my neighborhood today and they are collecting for a UCCA humanitarian fund. Not sure how this stacks up to the other initiatives going on but it's the big Ukrainian-American org in the US: I've done a little checking and look okay, added to OP.
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Feb 25, 2022 23:21
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List is updated, again, appreciate all the outpouring to these orgs goons.
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Feb 25, 2022 23:29
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Klaus88 posted:So uh, This War of Mine is having a sale and donating the profits to the Ukrainian red cross. Added to OP! Thusfar we've donated over $4, CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Feb 25, 2022 |
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Feb 25, 2022 23:40
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Loden Taylor Has updated the Gangtag design:
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Feb 26, 2022 00:22
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Guys, gangtags will go through tomorrow at 11:59PM outside of special request. Get em while its hot.
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Feb 26, 2022 00:33
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Sax Mortar posted:Does being a monthly contributor to Doctors Without Borders get me in on this as well? I don't have a receipt handy right now because I'm not sure when the last one came in. Should have one coming up next month though. Yes, more than does. Post when you can or PM it to me, its fine!
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Feb 26, 2022 00:57
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Comstar posted:I don't want a gang tag, as I'm really hoping this will be over soon and won't want it as a reminder and it's a tiny amount of money. Your contribution is still appreciated, thanks Comstar.
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Feb 26, 2022 01:19
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Icon Of Sin posted:
We can do a marquee scrolling one with all your tags.
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Feb 26, 2022 03:32
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Sir John Falstaff posted:Could you do a scrolling one for me, too? If not, I guess ditch the Antifa! one. noted.
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Feb 26, 2022 04:23
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HEY THREAD! Working on finalizing the list of people for the gangtag, hopefully will start issueing the tags this upcoming weekend. Thanks!
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Sir John Falstaff posted:Please keep the thread open, though--I have a feeling people will want to give more before this is over. Yeah do not worry, this thread will remain up.
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ReidRansom posted:I'd like to see an updated total. Surely we've tacked on another couple of K$€£ Its gonna take me some time to catch that up. Its a workweek so be patient with us.
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First two pages of Gangtags are submitted. Will do the next two tommorrow night!
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Pages 3-4 Gangtags are submitted. More tommorrow
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If you lost your gangtag due to the rash of avatar changes going around, let me know To that end: We've slowed down rolling out the gang tags till things calm down. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Mar 8, 2022 |
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Mar 8, 2022 23:18
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Lady Demelza posted:I don't have mine, but I'm not sure if you got to it yet. We are working on it, I do not think we've done yours yet.
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Mar 10, 2022 21:06
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:D+D does not support fascism, it merely highlights ways by which you the viewer at home can most easily give fascists financial support Its one thing to call out a bad group to donate to, its another to imply that it was done on purpose. Kindly gently caress off with these sort of posts. Actual thanks to those who are highlighting troubled groups that people should avoid donating to, we will update the OP.
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Mar 13, 2022 17:29
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appropriatemetaphor posted:can we have two tags? one the russiya korable and another for the whoops donated to bandera? No.
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Mar 13, 2022 21:17
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A big flaming stink posted:honestly if you truly want to be a helpful resource then you should include a section in the OP where you give warnings that these charities are associated with neonazis/banderites/other far rightists and include a citation if you have them That's what we're doing. And we are breaking any hyperlinks to suspect charities.
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Mar 14, 2022 12:42
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redneck nazgul posted:By breaking the hyperlink, you're making it so that people have to intentionally donate. Is donating money to a suspect organization okay if you have to really mean it? So, your problem is people might bypass us and donate anyways? How the hell do we possibly control or assume responsibility for that? If someone is going to hunt down a Fascist org and donate to them, do you really think we're in a position to stop them? What we CAN stop is people who want to be informed on what groups not to donate or may be linked to bad actors. People accidentally donating to bad groups is likely the bigger issue versus people purposefully hunting for said bad groups to donate to.
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Mar 14, 2022 16:07
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redneck nazgul posted:Here's an idea. Again: you are making the assumption that people are purposefully skimming to find Right Wing groups to donate to. This is a very bold assumption, and basically means that the person in question is going to donate to Fascist orgs regardless of what we say or not. Long and short: No, we will not be removing the broken URLs so that people can be aware who not to donate to. We cannot control what people do outside of Somethingawful and how they might abuse that information.
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Mar 14, 2022 16:22
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redneck nazgul posted:I do not understand why you are adamantly against making it harder to donate to reactionary / neo-Nazi organizations. Because that's not the actual risk, is it? The risk is people donating to reactionary/Nazi orgs and NOT KNOWING they did. You are suggesting they are trawling the donation thread to find those and donate to them. By that logic: They will find them anyways. The idea that uninformed donation is better than informed donation is insane. You need to demonstrate that by warning people about these groups, we are somehow indirectly encouraging people to donate to them DESPITE US TELL THEM NOT TO. That's their responsibility for ignoring the warning, seeking out these groups, and donating to them, not ours for warning people. That's like saying: How dare you label this abandoned mine, you are just going to encourage curious people to go in them!
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Mar 14, 2022 16:37
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Its fine to call out issues, but please don't do this.
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redneck nazgul posted:No, the risk is in people donating to reactionary / Nazi organizations. Whether they're doing so accidentally or with their left hand because their right hand is currently locked in a Heil Bandera salute is irrelevant because Nazis are still getting money. People donate to the links and groups that are provided. You specifically naming a Nazi organization means that any random right-wing person browsing this thread now has a convenient and easy link to repair and donate with. Is this plausible and actually happening? Who cares? You can prevent it from even happening in the first place!  That requires them to copy the link, visit it KNOWING what it is after reading the warning, and doing so.We're done discussing this. Telling people what groups may be bad and should be avoided is not inviting people to donate to them. That's outright removing any agency from the person knowingly doing it and saying somehow we made them do it. By this logic being an informed person is somehow secretly a way to corrupt them and make them do the opposite of the informed decision. redneck nazgul posted:You're the one who put an abandoned mine shaft in the list of family-friendly tourist attractions, and you're the one refusing to take it off the list and getting testy when people ask why the abandoned mine is still associated with a list of family-friendly tourist attractions. Do you get on Tourist attraction that have big "DO NOT ENTER, OUT OF SERVICE, DANGEROUS" signs on them? If so I suspect that on you, not the tourist attraction.
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redneck nazgul posted:I do not understand why this is a difficult concept to grasp or why you are so hellbent on keeping a bad donation link around. You could remove the link entirely and keep the organization and meet the intent of "We want to warn people not to donate to this organization", yet you refuse to do so. Why is that? Stop dancing around it and say what you mean: Do you think we're purposefully doing such? If so, stop dancing around it and accuse or or knock it off.
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Sinteres posted:I don't think you're trying to help people support Nazi linked groups, but I think you've grown so accustomed to downplaying right wing extremism when it's embarrassing for Ukraine that you don't have any perspective on the issue anymore. The same argument 100% wouldn't have happened if there'd been a Syrian charity drive and someone had accidentally included a charity linked to Nusra or ISIS--any trace of it would have been gone immediately, and I'd hope it wouldn't just be for legal reasons. We did remove them immediately when told. But the question was how do we make sure people do not accidentally donate to them. Again: I disagree: Informing people "You need to avoid these groups and if someone sends you this URL for donate, do not use them". Being informed is better than dancing around it and pretending its gonna zap people into extremism because they chose to copy the URL, visit it, and somehow donate despite being told not to? What if their friend tells them to donate and sends that link? At some point, you have to assume agency and that we can throw all the warnings in the world, but if they are dead set they will do it. To Shashimi's point: Friends are sending them donation links that include these groups, how do you inform them without pretending URLs are some sort of instantly corrupting method rather than a method of informing and verifying. Sinteres posted:I don't think you're trying to help people support Nazi linked groups, but I think you've grown so accustomed to downplaying right wing extremism when it's embarrassing for Ukraine that you don't have any perspective on the issue anymore. If it was embarrassing we wouldn't inform people at all that these are bad groups and are associated with bad people. Sorry that's a really weird take when we are openly saying "These groups likely support Nazis, do not donate to them" rather than just pretending they should disappear. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Mar 14, 2022 |
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Yeah we paused gangtag processing because people were losing theirs quickly. We will resume soon.
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paul_soccer12 posted:about 10 minutes of googling the people on their about page and what they do with the money Gonna be clear: Present the evidence here, because 1. I'm not going to dig through CSPAM, sorry 2. You have a history of making GBS threads up threads here. 3. You make it pretty obvious in your post your goal is to roast D&D rather than help. So help. Stop turning this into a roast opportunity. As it is this reads more as a cross forums drama which we probe for. Thanks for this. We'll review it. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Mar 25, 2022 |
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Mar 25, 2022 19:24
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paul_soccer12 posted:how is saying "if youre going to donate to the humble bundle you can adjust the donate so none of it goes to banderites" making GBS threads up the thread? Because you redirected it to CSPAM where you are OPENLY roasting D&D. And I'm saying we will gladly consider your evidence, present it here.
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paul_soccer12 posted:do you want me to copy and paste the post in here but tone down the snark 15%? or do you just want to ignore it and let more yet people donate to banderite-linked orgs Yes, just tone the snark down and present the evidence. What you have to share is valid, please share it. paul_soccer12 posted:or do you just want to ignore it and let more yet people donate to banderite-linked orgs And knock this poo poo off if you want to post here. Nobody here is donating on purpose to banderite orgs and you can kindly stop pretending that's true.
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