|
Cross quoting from CE while I catch up:SMEGMA_MAIL posted:The Iraq war was popular as gently caress when it started too. There's no equivalent to the post-9/11 psychosis in Russia, if anything they're already a bit war-weary from the low-intensity conflict. I'm starting to think maybe Putin is feeling his mortality encroaching and just wanted to use all his expensive toys before they rusted away? Thats as good a reason as any for an autocrat. Duzzy Funlop posted:Yeah, uhh...I really want Putin to get a bloody nose, but not at the expense of countless additional civilian deaths. A heavily armed populace almost always does more in the long run than you'd expect. See Algiers, Ireland, Iraq, Afghanistan, and so on.
|
#
¿
Feb 25, 2022 04:20
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 16, 2024 20:15 |
|
|
Tiny Timbs posted:I saw a guy sincerely say “I can’t believe nations are at war again in the 21st century” 21st century? Wikipedia has planned ahead because we all know better 
|
|
#
¿
Feb 25, 2022 04:22
|
|
|
Torrannor posted:General Assembly votes can't be vetoed. They still have the nuclear veto
|
|
#
¿
Feb 27, 2022 23:51
|
|
|
SMEGMA_MAIL posted:Someone ate a groverpasta in the GBS thread lol
|
|
#
¿
Feb 28, 2022 03:10
|
|
|
Melthir posted:How much rubles can I get for ISK? Realistically doing some RMT shenanigans to exchange your billions of worthless video game currency for whatever in devalued Russian currency might benefit you in the long run since it's probably going to drop another 20% then bounce around. It's not like Russia suddenly doesn't have an industrial base anymore., theyre just expecting to be insular for a while.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 28, 2022 07:28
|
|
|
Soylent Pudding posted:My unserious reaction to seeing that convoy is "how fast can we get the Ukrainians an A-10?" Aren't A-10's incredibly susceptible to any sort of modern MADPAD or SAM? Like great in an uncontested environment where the dirt doesn't shoot back, but these days I imagine 'fat and slow' to be asking to be killed.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 28, 2022 21:39
|
|
|
Compared to last week there is practically nothing stopping you from importing a tank. ITAR is for exports! Buy your own BUK! They'll be finding this stuff parked in peoples sheds for the next 10 years.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 28, 2022 23:19
|
|
|
Should have offered Rubles, I assume most of the conscripts don't know that they're income is currently about to be worthless.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 1, 2022 20:40
|
|
|
Should it be called The Thread for Ukraine, rather than The Ukraine Thread then?
|
|
#
¿
Mar 2, 2022 08:28
|
|
|
Marshal Prolapse posted:Yeah you definitely can’t declare no quarter or no surrenders. That is a very legit war crime. This is assuming calling actual war crimes as war crimes means more than wet paper. Because its entirely performative among disparate powers and you should assume nobody is going to play nice as soon as there is any sort of peer conflict, as we are currently seeing.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 2, 2022 21:22
|
|
|
Exactly. The "war crimes" are only crimes once one side has an overwhelming advantage. Until then its just violence. The underlying crime is the leadership of Russia invading Ukraine in the first place.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 2, 2022 21:36
|
|
|
The lesson is don't get into a land war in Asia
|
|
#
¿
Mar 3, 2022 02:27
|
|
|
Wasabi the J posted:I'm just like... How far west did y'all think you were going? To Russia
|
|
#
¿
Mar 3, 2022 06:07
|
|
|
CommieGIR posted:If I recall the channel belongs to a media group that has been taken off the air for refusing to air propaganda and spun news. So this is likely a "Remember this?" Do you remind Putin that coups and 9x18 is a real possibility, or do you remind everyone with second opinions that its better to come out on the winning side of 9x18
|
|
#
¿
Mar 3, 2022 19:41
|
|
|
Handsome Ralph posted:https://twitter.com/skbozphd/status/1499298691156705282?t=D4ub1YKIO0Cpb6s0Vr3TLg&s=19 Lol
|
|
#
¿
Mar 4, 2022 03:17
|
|
|
CBJSprague24 posted:Over/under on how long it takes him to walk it back after he gets a call from Vlad's not-so-secret admirer in Palm Beach? I think he's serious. He's a old Republican.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 4, 2022 05:26
|
|
|
SMEGMA_MAIL posted:Oh yeah lets just escalate this further into a shooting war rather than give aid thats working just fine for no real gain because you feel bad. We're (assuming you're American) really the best country to take the moral high ground on "don't invade sovereign nations and bomb civilians with no reason." You know they're taking foreign volunteers if it's so hard to directly sit it out and so eager? There comes a point where showing the hand and risking nuclear war is preferable to allowing the rise of a global fascist threat. We're nowhere there yet, but risking annihilation is preferable to letting them sit in silos until we're licking boots for generations to come. With them taking nibbles out of eastern Europe they're threatening that.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 4, 2022 15:18
|
|
|
In better news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zsIMfTEUjs "Press Conference with IAEA Director General Rafael Mariano Grossi" Summary by Sahil Shah posted:
|
|
#
¿
Mar 4, 2022 15:22
|
|
|
Can we just disband and rehabilitate all the active duty SEALS already? They need to be de-programed and reintegrated into society and kept away from sharp objects for the rest of their lives.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 4, 2022 15:41
|
|
|
SMEGMA_MAIL posted:It’s very weird to post a random Azov propaganda image and be like “oh that’s rad” but what do I know. Also to be semantic it was Ukranian propaganda that happened to be produced by Azov. Them being Nazi's doesn't make the concept of recreating the famous painting any less good, just smears poo poo over the product. Wait till you see all the US military propaganda videos that were also made by nazi and nazi adjacent folk
|
|
#
¿
Mar 4, 2022 18:04
|
|
|
maffew buildings posted:https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1499804332090441732?cxt=HHwWiIC-7f-FsNApAAAA Yeah they've got a lot of classic white supremacists, but I think 'a lot' is still only a few percentage points. Even that tends to really stand out because of the sort of roles those shitheels tend to take as careers
|
|
#
¿
Mar 4, 2022 19:05
|
|
|
1337JiveTurkey posted:This is actually a thing used to confuse intelligence agencies and has been known since WWII. In statistics it's called the German tank problem and picking random values from a set of a million numbers is one of the ways to prevent estimates of how many aircraft they actually have. That stops working when you get daily flyovers of the tank and missile factories. You can only hide so much in sheds and warehouses without getting noticed.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 4, 2022 23:24
|
|
|
I think reporters maybe got way to comfortable reporting wild weather by stepping into it, and reporting on combat while escorted by US marines, and are now making very bad decisions on where to report from.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 4, 2022 23:32
|
|
|
Big K of Justice posted:It seems off because it's done footage with robotic/rc camera motion, which seems odd because this would imply that they had time to set up the shot, which would also imply that the Russians are flying the same route over and over again or flying in a really long staggered out formation. Could it be a drone with a 360 camera with a digital pan/zoom afterwards? much easier than to try to aim a fixed lens
|
|
#
¿
Mar 5, 2022 18:45
|
|
|
SMEGMA_MAIL posted:I have no idea how they expect to maintain a modern economy without either the neoliberal international system or the advantages of the Soviet system, since they’re basically doing neoliberalism with autarky which I don’t think is like a thing. At this point I just assume that the oligarchy is happy to revert to some modern form of feudalism or tsar putin to codify the lifestyles they have.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 6, 2022 01:22
|
|
|
So two new lines of discussion this morning (Kyiv local) among the natsec policy wonks. One being that between providing weapons and the occasional Ukrainian plane getting aid in Poland for all rules lawyering makes us effectively at war with Russia. And this makes Putin feel threatened. He's persoanlly said that its an act of war just like sanctions but its hard to tell how much of that is bluster. And Two it seems that Sputnik and Russia Today are printing dozens of stories each about a Ukrainian weapons nuclear program funded by the US. One that was supposedly months away from completion in RT's case! Just incredible consent manufacturing, and a clear signal Putin seems very willing to escalate this further. I am personally worried they're going to try some sort of CBRN false flag or something else very nasty, if not use a tactical nuke to try to force an immediate surrender out of fear. https://twitter.com/SputnikInt/status/1500349595062194180?s=20&t=Ktw66r3fIAWop8dtnJdEJA 
|
|
#
¿
Mar 6, 2022 08:53
|
|
|
I'm trying to wrap my head around them trying to domestically sell the existence of a Ukrainian WMD program funded by the US; and starting that media machine a week after you've already invaded.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 6, 2022 09:07
|
|
|
SavageMessiah posted:That tweet seems to have been deleted or something. It's still embedded for me but clicking through doesn't work. Maybe it was wrong and they retracted it? No, twitter is just having issues everywhere at the moment. Definitely no ongoing events that it might be correlated with.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 7, 2022 22:33
|
|
|
Spoiler: We're now calling them cope cages
|
|
#
¿
Mar 7, 2022 22:46
|
|
|
A Festivus Miracle posted:Western banks are predicting that Russia will be unable to meet it's obligations as early as mid-April . At that point, if not in the next few weeks, I think the war will have to end. Since I posted about peace negotiations earlier, at that point Zelensky could probably ask for literally anything he wanted: Crimea, end of LPR/DPR, end of Russian support for Lukashenko, reparations in kind (because the Russian Ruble is going to be smoldering ruin if Russia defaults), a cake, a stripper, and probably Putin being pantsted on national TV. I think you're being wildly overoptimistic here
|
|
#
¿
Mar 7, 2022 23:13
|
|
|
guten tag russians, say auf wiedersehen to your little tanks
|
|
#
¿
Mar 8, 2022 14:53
|
|
|
tater_salad posted:any news on if the spy satellite poo poo was real or not? I assume at this point with no word it's not,. What spy satellite poo poo?
|
|
#
¿
Mar 8, 2022 15:47
|
|
|
Soul Dentist posted:It's called a finger because it fings duh what if there were two?
|
|
#
¿
Mar 8, 2022 15:53
|
|
|
tater_salad posted:someone said that the satellites were hacked and RUS no longer had acces to them. Yeah there have been a lot of hacking but disabling satellites is a strategic level attack that in a huge step on the escalation ladder (actually destroying said satellites being even more provocative) and that hasn't happened. The closest I've heard of is the disabling of cell towers and ground based satellite interlinks so the area no longer has 3G coverage. But it turns out the russians were routing some of their encrypted comms over the 3G cell network to save money. So thanks to a mix of actions by both sides (destroying cell towers and equipment) and said hacking, you could make a sliver of an argument that some russian satellite communications have been disabled.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 8, 2022 16:14
|
|
|
Bored As gently caress posted:New vid from Chris Cappy This is pretty good.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 8, 2022 16:20
|
|
|
CommieGIR posted:Why would anyone trust a security agreement with Putin given what is going on right now? You wouldn't but its great for making peace overtures to get russians out of your cities and then you can point the finger when they break the agreements again. Its an olive branch to show that you're reasonable while still being committed to total war against forign invasion. There is no way they stop fighting for their homes.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 8, 2022 17:03
|
|
|
nwin posted:Uh so doesn’t that sound like Russia has a whole lot more people/resources to expend? Expend in this case is a loaded word. Armed forces are incredibly expensive to recruit, train, and supply. Keeping their infantry and mechanized numbers up domestically is expensive, and that price skyrockets the moment they're on campaign. The day by day upkeep of these forces is 100x (Someone somewhere will have a real number for this) what it was sitting in domestic basing. Now you're paying that regardless of if those units are sitting in the woods or casualties. You're paying doubly if you have losses among your supply lines since now you've lost the supplies outright rather than just them having been consumed. 5% "expended" is the forces hemorrhaging manpower and money. That is years of capital expenditure to build it back up.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 8, 2022 19:33
|
|
|
ChubbyChecker posted:Looks like that some netfuckery is afoot. Thats a lot of major services suffering major outages at a suspicious time. I don't think we have odds on this being a weakwristed "cyberattack" vs some knockon effect from yet another AWS outage.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 8, 2022 20:33
|
|
|
GD_American posted:Is NATO really going to do the stupidly transparent "we'll park them at an airport with the keys in the ignition" charade Gotta play "I'm not touching you" like a child to avoid nuclear entanglements
|
|
#
¿
Mar 9, 2022 01:46
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 16, 2024 20:15 |
|
|
EasilyConfused posted:I don't think that charade works when you openly say you want to give the planes to Ukraine. I mean the charades of that style have worked fine for Putin and Trump 
|
|
#
¿
Mar 9, 2022 01:55
|
|