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POTUS is going to speak in 30 minutes.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2022 18:02 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 16:14 |
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The Guardian reporting Mauripo is under heavy artillery fire.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2022 19:27 |
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loving Germany. First with the nuclear reactors and now opposing barring Russia from SWIFT. No matter. There will be rioting in the streets when the price of flour skyrockets. The one things Germans don't gently caress around with is brot.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2022 20:27 |
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If something positive came out of 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, it's that the CIA and the Ukrainians they will soon train have some expert experience with IEDs now.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2022 21:40 |
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The Economist mentioned that the Ukrainians are claiming to have destroyed an entire Russian tank column (15 tanks - that's almost an Armor company's worth, if I'm not mistaken) with Javelins. Raytheon engineers probably patting themselves on the back right now.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2022 22:25 |
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:I'd hazard a guess they had gambled on clearing out a corridor for heavy lift to reinforce through before an effective response came and Yep. NYT had an unnamed US defense official saying there were a number of transport planes airborne that were likely destined for the airfield. It looks like the attack from the north is being stymied by bad roads, so this is Russia's main effort. Ukraine probably knows this and is sending everything they've got to ensure it stays contested.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2022 22:51 |
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Heavy fighting in Sumy in eastern Ukraine. This was supposed to be in Russia's control earlier in the day. https://mobile.twitter.com/ua_industrial/status/1496955222299590656
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2022 23:05 |
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loving A, just keep the Ukrainians supplied with a constant stream of Javelins.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2022 23:18 |
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MonkeyLibFront posted:Ukranians tested those cages, they came up being useless. I thought the Javelin had a pre-emptive warhead anyway to defeat cages and reactive armor.
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2022 23:23 |
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McNally posted:https://twitter.com/Sc0ttishKoala/status/1496914492546232320 I saw somewhere on Reddit that a Ukrainian fighter jet had crossed into Romanian airspace and was escorted to an airfield by Romanian F16s. Wonder if it was that guy dropping his mic.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 00:01 |
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So it's looking like the Ukrainians decided not to commit all of their air defense and anti tank weapons on day 1. Ukraine's defense minister suggested plan is to force the Russian armor into urban corridors and hit them with AT weapons, vs. trying to engage on more open terrain. That shootdown of the Russian jet makes me think they're still retaining some capabilities that are more sophisticated than MANPADS.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 07:42 |
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:https://twitter.com/michaeldweiss/status/1497095864992604163?t=ugjUmotUOn6cqWjp9f5UmA&s=19 Better get the cratering charges ready.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 07:57 |
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Watching some footage of the air to air combat yesterday and it's absolutely insane how low the Ukrainians are flying. I'm guessing this is to avoid radar and confuse hear-seeking missiles? Also unless I'm overlooking some smaller regional wars (Armenia & Azerbaijan?), this is probably the first major air to air combat since, what, the Yam Kippur War?
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 08:28 |
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Myanmar hoping to get some of that sweet Kazakhstan treatment.Spokesperson for the Myanmar Junta posted:In the case of Russia and Ukraine, Russia has done its part to maintain its sovereignty, and I think it is the right thing to do.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 08:33 |
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I wonder where they're parking these planes? I did see an interview yesterday with a Ukraininan government official who said they'd moved most of their aircraft, but I would have thought that Russia would have cratered every airfield by now.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 10:51 |
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Xi basically told Putin to stop it, and now he's saying he'd like to have high level talks with Ukraine. https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...f0873d0384b040a Probably some combination of him realizing China is his only major friend left, plus the Ukrainians embarrassing his technologically and numerically superior forces.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 13:19 |
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bird food bathtub posted:What is the likelihood of nearby countries offering air base support to Ukranian air craft? Seems hands-off enough for other countries to be doing. If you're already shipping weapons and supplies over your ground letting planes in your air space and on your air strips doesn't seem like an escalation. This could probably lead to a quick escalation as Russia attacks Ukrainian assets stationed in Poland or Romania or wherever. My reptilian brain bloodlust wants NATO to disable Belarusian airfields hosting Russian aircraft and be all like "Hey we said we weren't going into Ukraine. We said nothing about Belarus." But I'm just here for the violence.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 13:37 |
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orange juche posted:Things are bad in Kyiv, but the military and the populace's morale is high according to social media, which bodes ill for anyone expecting to subjugate Ukraine any time soon. They're going to make Russia pay for every inch, and insurgencies can be very, very effective, just ask the Taliban. It's also a pretty large city, geographically speaking. So far it looks like they're moving in from one of the northernmost neighborhoods but they're far from occupying the whole city. Based upon some sources quoted by the BBC and Guardian, the bridge demo was a delaying action to let them get troops in place to hit the Russian armor as it gets channeled into the city, forcing them to fight on foot and sacrifice their mechanized advantage. Russia is reporting that they've seized Hostomel, though, which isn't good (if true). Speaking of - apparently they launched a large airborne insertion on the airfield this morning to retake it. I'm wondering if the plane shot down was a troop transport? Would make sense given how low and slow it was going.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 14:22 |
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Oh poo poo, they went there. https://mobile.twitter.com/Eurovision/status/1497243799889711104
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 18:23 |
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Stultus Maximus posted:Given that they're surrounded by NATO countries, that could be... bad. I'm actually very worried Belarus is going to take advantage of this to attack Poland or Lithuania in retaliation for harboring their opposition leaders.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 18:38 |
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/25/ukraine-invasion-russia-news/#link-AZZQA2VO2ZHXZDAWXSTQ6PP65Uquote:The Russian military has lost momentum in its offensive on Ukraine, a senior U.S. defense official said Friday, cautioning that could change in coming days.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 18:43 |
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Suicide Watch posted:It looksl ike the Russian force totaled around 190,000 troops, but does anyone know what percentage (probably following contemporary Russian doctrine) of that would be support/rear echelon vs. frontline combat? Because it seems if it was 190,000 combat arms, Ukraine forces would be in for a much harder time than if it was 40-50K combat and the rest were transport/HQ/support Russian formations are based around armor and mechanized infantry, so an operation of this size would have to have a sizeable combat support and service support element attached. I'm trying to find one of the articles from before the invasion, but had a pretty good breakdown of what their force composition was. Edit: here we go https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2022/01/31/how-big-is-russias-military-build-up-around-ukraine Economist estimates from before the invasion out the total number of BTGs at around 100. Each battalion tactical group has its own combat support attached. From Wikipedia: Each BTG has approximately 600-800 officers and soldiers, of whom roughly 200 are infantrymen, equipped with vehicles typically including roughly 10 tanks and 40 infantry fighting vehicles.: pp. 11-13 So of those 190,000 it's safe to say about 40% at most are actual trigger pullers. psydude fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Feb 25, 2022 |
# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 19:09 |
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Finland's the complete package: a hot prime minister and a terrifying thirst for Russian blood.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 19:19 |
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What's the best way to gently caress up a tank's treads? Movies have taught me that's the most important part of the tank.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 22:18 |
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Hekk posted:I am not an expert on Russian armor but tanks are generally designed to be employed at greater distances than one in which your enemy is close enough to throw things at it. Even infantry support armor relies upon infantry to keep the enemy from climbing up on it or attacking from blind spots. If you bring unsupported armor into an urban environment it’s only a matter of time before the crew get taken out. Some of the analysis I read leading up to the war suggested that Russia's doctrine is still over-dependent upon the premise of armor-centric combined arms engagements at range, without enough attention paid to urban operations. It looks like Ukraine has been exploiting this tactically and engaging the Russians in ambushes and up close, where they're less effective.
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# ¿ Feb 25, 2022 22:35 |
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So what happens if Putin doesn't win? And by doesn't win, I mean fails to completely overthrow the government in a short time period. Not like he can just back down at this point. His dick is already too far into crazy, and his entire image is of a strong man who never loses.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 00:08 |
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Crini posted:As a teen in the late 80s I was as much of a military nerd as I could be without today’s access to information. So I don’t really know anything. But shouldn’t someone either take those artillery pieces or spike them? Seems like just leaving them there means they could be firing on you next week. Whoever ambushed them might not have had too much time to clean up before the unit behind them showed up.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 00:38 |
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CBJSprague24 posted:USAF saying "Hi! We're here!" Overheard two Americans at a bar on Thursday complaining about how there's no parking at Patch (EUCOM headquarters) right now. Should give an idea about how involved the US is behind the scenes.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 08:34 |
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...f08db56730fc94aquote:A UK government armed forces junior minister said Russia has failed to achieve its initial objectives – and fighting outside Kyiv was limited to Russian special forces units. Of course the war crimes poo poo is being perpetrated by the Spetznaz.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 09:36 |
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Fragrag posted:Does the absence of any official visual media from the Russian government, e.g. Russian troops hoisting their flags over government buildings, indicate that cities like Kharkiv and others are still being heavily contested? US and British intelligence have confirmed that Russia has failed to take any major population centers so far. Ukraine's best and most seasoned troops were stationed in the east of the country; while the media is understandably focused on Kiev, the most intense fighting is in that part of the country. I've seen a lot of (unconfirmed) twitter videos of scorched Russian vehicles and troops littering the roads around Kharkiv. We're also seeing a lot more footage of the irregular Ukrainian troops just due to their presence farther from the fighting, where more civilians are present to take footage with phones. From what it sounds like, the professional Ukrainian military and the reservists are making the Russians earn every inch of ground. psydude fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Feb 26, 2022 |
# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 10:04 |
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Cyprus has agreed to vote to remove Russia from SWIFT. https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...f0873d0384b1230 This is a big deal because Cyprus is one of the biggest sources of foreign investment in Russia.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 10:50 |
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Nuclear War posted:loyal, yes, but soft? nah, brutal murderers who've been putting down unrest for years. i dunno about actual combat experience Russia is probably using them as a psyop tool. Kind of like how the USSR created a mythos around certain units specifically for terrorizing civilians. psydude fucked around with this message at 13:01 on Feb 26, 2022 |
# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 12:59 |
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Turkey just cut Russian access to the Black Sea. https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...f0873d0384b1494
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 15:01 |
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Re: Alpha Group assassination plot. This might have been what the US was alluding to earlier. Here's a half-serious Tom Clancy question: would the US take it upon itself to neutralize the threat through covert means? I've gotta imagine there's an enormous number of Ground Branch assets there right now. psydude fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Feb 26, 2022 |
# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 15:15 |
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Tomn posted:Hi guys, civilian here, got a question about something and I hope this is OK to ask here. I don't feel like wading into that thread, so I'm missing the context around what he's saying. Sustaining a mechanized force advancing into contested territory is difficult even without having to worry about professional soldiers ambushing your logistics convoys with Javelins. There's literal videos of Russian vehicles running out of gas, and plenty more of supply convoys burned out on the side of the road. During the war games they were running before, I'm sure they had hot chow, but no Army is gonna take a break to bake bread in-between fighting during active combat operations.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 15:45 |
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Icon Of Sin posted:Getting a hearty at fresh bread 2x/day, and showers/laundry “whenever there’s a significant pause”. Where the hell would that water even come from? Each BTG has a Divining Rod Team (uniformed, not a part of the MIC of course) to locate clean, fluoride free spring water.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 15:52 |
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Latest out of the pentagon today (via the Guardian): TLDR: Maybe Russia should have taken the Napoleonic Ratios more seriously. https://twitter.com/JackDetsch/status/1497590265737097217 https://twitter.com/beverstine/status/1497582099443986438 https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1497588560832208898 https://twitter.com/paulmcleary/status/1497587542002216962
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 16:31 |
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aphid_licker posted:Think I'm about ready to downgrade them to ex-Superpower Maybe a Pretty Good Power.
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 16:43 |
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Latest assessment from UK intelligence: https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1497592156738965509
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# ¿ Feb 26, 2022 16:47 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 16:14 |
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BUG JUG posted:The thing I am wondering about now is: replacement. There is a LOT of Russian hardware littering the Ukranian countryside right now, and Russia looks like they will be living under severe economic sanctions for a decade or so, so....how does the Russian Army/Air Force afford to replace any of this poo poo? Like, is Russia actively degrading themselves from Superpower to Second Rate power in front of our eyes? This is still only a fraction of the crap that Russia actually has, but your point about sanctions is salient. Russia doesn't have its own semiconductor industry, and it relies heavily upon EU countries for basics like steel. With every major country sanctioning it (other than China, who doesn't give a poo poo about Russia and will want to avoid another ZTE fiasco), they're going to have to develop their own capacity. This will take years and billions of dollars, and will probably set them back substantially from both an R&D and O&M perspective. And that's before the likely sabotage of their MIC by US and allied offensive cyber operations. psydude fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Feb 26, 2022 |
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