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I'm mostly just too depressed to post but I'm still lurking and this thread usually lifts my spirits a little
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OwlFancier posted:How on god's green earth can someone not like scones. I wonder if, from an American perspective, the brain expects a biscuit and then revolts at the textural difference e: bad snipe, have a cat 
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Apr 18, 2022 23:35
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OwlFancier posted:Savory scones exist! They are also good! Beef Cobbler is basically stew and dumplings but with savoury scones instead of dumplings and it's one of my favourite winter comfort foods
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Apr 18, 2022 23:56
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Biscuits & gravy and turning right (left in our case) on red lights are the only two things we should absolutely import from the US immediately. I would also take those sandwiches from delis in the Pennsylvania area that seem to contain 1000 slices of pastrami for like 5 dollars
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Apr 19, 2022 01:44
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When they go low, we go high is basically "kinder gentler politics" in a slightly different hat, and look where that got us.
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Apr 26, 2022 13:14
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Bobby Deluxe posted:If the choice is between the polite beginnings of fascism or outright fascism, i'll choose the one that gets us a step back from outright fascism, and concentrate my efforts for real change elsewhere. The problem is that there's vanishingly little evidence to support this framing of the choice. The most nakedly fascist ideas to come from the current tory government are all reheated New Labour, and current Labour welcomed the person behind most of them back into the fold. I haven't read this Starmer book yet but it doesn't bode well that everyone who is reading it seems to be coming back to the thread saying "maybe Labour would be worse"
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May 2, 2022 18:44
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FWIW, I do agree that any message sent to parties from the ballot box will be interpreted as "we need to get more right wing!". However (and I'm talking about a general election here, not locals) there's a message that definitely does get sent and heard when a right wing labour party win, and that is to the people who vote for them: Labour will tell you they're going to help you and then make things worse. 25 years on and our political landscape is still shaped by the fact that New Labour killed the idea of hopeful politics stone-dead for many people while bolstering the argument of anyone who says that politicians are all as bad as each other.NotJustANumber99 posted:Sorry can someone link/name the starmer book again please thx. https://www.versobooks.com/books/3969-the-starmer-project
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May 2, 2022 19:09
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Your Keith-posts always make me laugh, crispix
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May 3, 2022 18:36
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My labour councillor's media presence is a mystery to me since he blocked me on twitter 
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May 4, 2022 11:07
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Comrade Fakename posted:He said Keith That's basically everyone too
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May 5, 2022 01:06
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Hard to feel any satisfaction when they won and we're living in their world now
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May 6, 2022 06:50
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ThomasPaine posted:I mean it is funny to watch the tories implode and if these results were reflected in the next GE I suppose I'd rather have PM Kieth than the alternative but drat I can't help but think a labour win by default under centrists might actually be the worst case scenario long term Not sure why you think it would be bad, bleeding votes to the left must surely make Starmer's team reflect and- https://twitter.com/KevinASchofield/status/1522506778818326528 oh
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May 6, 2022 18:23
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kingturnip posted:If you presented this out-of-context, I reckon 90% of people would believe it's parody Oh believe me, I spent a good 15 minutes looking for evidence of the joke before I posted it
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May 6, 2022 18:32
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WhatEvil posted:This was going to be Starmer's response to literally any result. Oh absolutely, it's just funny to see it in black and white rather than with the usual spin of "families and traditional values". Just all in on appealing to sentient beetroots who will vote tory anyway
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May 6, 2022 19:14
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:So correct me if I'm wrong: If you're explaining, you're losing
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May 6, 2022 20:08
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Angepain posted:glad to see the tories breaking another milestone and getting up to -400 council seats, inspiring Plenty of new council budgets for them to slash for austerity 2.0
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May 7, 2022 12:07
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Wes Streeting has a flying pyramid?
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May 7, 2022 23:06
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Mr Phillby posted:The thing that disarmed it for Corbyn was just saying he'd pay the fine. He's also been caught in multiple lies about it; another resignation offence by his own standards. It's infuriating that the press MO is to slowly dripfeed the details of these stories but it's remarkably effective at catching people in a lie, especially the ones who think they're too clever to be caught.
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May 9, 2022 12:08
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Comrade Fakename posted:Backing Starmer in the leadership election was a position that had a logic to it - we need a person palatable to the media to deliver the change we need. But this idea has now been proven so utterly wrong that Paul has no choice but to retreat into the Glinnerhole. It's not logic if you have to discard a bunch of facts to reach the decision. We already knew 90% of what we now know about Starmer before he even stood for leader. The idea that Mr DPP Trilateral Commission would "deliver the change we need" was as laughable then as it is now.
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May 10, 2022 07:08
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forkboy84 posted:To be fair to those incredulous morons who voted for Kieth, the platform he ran on was palatable to the left. Now those of us with an understanding of object permanence didn't believe it because we remember he quit the cabinet in the chicken coup and even without the Trilateral Commission poo poo, but not everyone on the left is as gifted with a Evergreen load of cynicism like you or I. Fair points by everyone who replied and it's true that not everyone has a resource like this thread as a collective memory of all the grim poo poo politicians do. I'd expect someone like Mason to do some research and apply some critical thinking, but perhaps that expectation is based on who he presents himself as rather than who he actually is
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May 10, 2022 12:32
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Pistol_Pete posted:My favourite bit of the article is where he points out that Starmer's positioning of himself as the solid defender of rules and order relies on the media being fair and not just making poo poo up about him in order for it to work. Well you see it's all the other, bad medias that do that. I write for the good guys
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May 11, 2022 09:46
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Just don't play the lottery
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May 12, 2022 00:40
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Failed Imagineer posted:Choosing not to view the Bad British Opinions about Ireland, but somehow they're still being psychically transmitted into my brain
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May 13, 2022 15:35
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What happens when everyone's vaccinations wear off?
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May 18, 2022 20:00
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Blue Ribands if you only eat the wrapper e: gently caress me what a terrible snipe 
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May 18, 2022 20:44
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Sunak said that one of the payments would be going to people on "non means tested disability benefits". Has anyone found anything defining exactly which benefits fall into this category?
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May 26, 2022 18:50
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Darth Walrus posted:PIP (Personal Independence Payment) is the standard non-means-tested disability benefit, and one of the few that hasn't been folded into Universal Credit (because the whole point is that it plays by different rules). Hey I get that one. Thanks
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May 26, 2022 19:40
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Brendan Rodgers posted:Reading that, half of me is thinking that maybe I never understood what means tested meant in the first place, half of me is thinking that maybe the entire concept of means tested was incredibly loving evil and stupid in the first place, but the third half of me, that half is thinking that if this benefit isn't means tested, I would really really loving hate to find out what means tested really means, so I don't even want to know. In this context, it means that PIP is granted based on criteria that have nothing to do with your income. I receive universal credit and PIP. If I started receiving an income from work or elsewhere then I would lose some or all of my universal credit (because it is means tested) but not my PIP (which isn't) Both the disability element of my universal credit and the PIP have eligibility tests which are the tests that are outsourced to various ghoulish companies and have generated numerous horror stories about mistreatment of claimants and a huge overturn rate at tribunal. Means testing is there to make it too much effort and bureaucracy to claim. The eligibility testing for disability is to dehumanise people and keep them in permanent fear of loss of benefits, while also being its own bureaucratic nightmare of appeals and tribunals.
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May 26, 2022 22:01
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Guavanaut posted:jeans/shirt/jacket Is that where hats live?
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May 27, 2022 20:20
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Diet Crack posted:Top legal officer to the government doesn't understand the law. Why would the way he's been voting be any different to the way current Labour would want him to vote
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May 28, 2022 14:18
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Pistol_Pete posted:What does 'bringing back' imperial measures even mean. Unless they're making them compulsory, nobody's going to bother, except for the odd lunatic pub landlord or greengrocer. Government by press release. Just say you're doing a thing, it doesn't matter if you do it. The people who want this just want the emotional satisfaction of knowing it will annoy those they don't like, and a day or two of headlines about it achieves that
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May 28, 2022 22:04
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madey posted:Petrol prices will go from 162p per litre to 736p per gallon if they switch to imperial. I don't think it will happen. 92p a pint!
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May 28, 2022 22:16
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I'll focus on the policies Keir Starmer fought for in his leadership campaign (and subsequently abandoned for convenience while also stating he'd promise anything to get into power) Great pitch!
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May 31, 2022 16:39
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Mason worked in some capacity on Starmer's leadership campaign, right? e: 
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May 31, 2022 19:26
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Yeah he flipped at some point before the leadership election https://twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/1217022832359673857 e: lol that the qualities mentioned in that first tweet are "from the left", leadership, professionalism, integrity. How's that working out for you, Paul Tarnop fucked around with this message at 19:37 on May 31, 2022 |
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May 31, 2022 19:35
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Tesseraction posted:Honestly I'm fine with him inserting himself into the Labour Party because he's a loving mad lad but is better than like 80% of the PLP. 95% on policy. Extremely low bar, but sure
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May 31, 2022 19:39
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Tesseraction posted:buddy I'm a goon 
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OwlFancier posted:Yes it is very telling that he thinks it is actually a deficiency of corbyn's character and not a product of the media. I wonder whether he'll treat the things he hears about Starmer's character on the doorstep in the same way
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