UKMT Spring 2022 - Beer for Keir, Beef for Keith

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Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

smellmycheese posted:

https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/1498604421898506245

Labour are definitely on the right side of this...

https://twitter.com/TomWTheSecond/status/1498611751771852809?t=qpsqN6Yb9hU3YaXNtVA3vA&s=19

Oh.

# ¿ Mar 1, 2022 13:03

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 13:33

Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

This is a good resignation letter

https://twitter.com/Soph__wilson/status/1498736841524228097

# ¿ Mar 1, 2022 21:07

Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

https://twitter.com/michaeljswalker/status/1498804522327715846

He's a special kind of oval office, Starmer.

# ¿ Mar 2, 2022 08:45

Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Neighbours was the backdrop to my childhood, and although I haven't watching it in 15 years+ i'm sad it's gone.

# ¿ Mar 3, 2022 13:15

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Tidal seems to be permanently beset by problems. There's a hub off Cornwall that they've been trying to hook stuff to for a decade and it's still not generating anything afaik.

# ¿ Mar 6, 2022 11:29

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Have a look in 'the other place' on CSPAM. There's a link to the form. Check out Jose's posts.
I decided to abandon mine after reading the legal agreement in full despite the law firm's reassurances which were along the lines of "we have to write it like that but don't worry it doesn't mean that".

Ed: found the link for you:

https://kellerlenkner-databreach.co.uk/labour-party/

Ed2: you need to still have the email (or a pdf or word version of it) you were sent else they can't proceed with your claim.

ed3: email dated 3/11/21 from privacy@labour.org.uk

I've no idea if that group case will get off the ground or not but that company are massively in debt and set off alarm bells.

Lungboy fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Mar 7, 2022

# ¿ Mar 7, 2022 00:45

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Have you a link about that?

Only their companies house filings https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11937792/filing-history.

# ¿ Mar 7, 2022 01:08

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

Yeah, this nicely clarifies a big part of the point I was making, one of those things that's so obvious in my own head that maybe I forget to say it out loud - the outrage should be against the people who are *taking* the bribes, considerably more so than those giving them, not even for moral reasons but for simple practical reasons. The Tory party chairman whose name is currently escaping me, whose entire job is basically to be the bag man for dodgy money, is far more easily reached by our laws than the people stuffing the plain brown envelopes.

While we're at it, the brass-plate companies that are used for channeling the money are the real reason the worst people in the world are so intent on influencing our politics, and cutting them off at the knees could be done tomorrow rather than spending years trying to lift the veil on where that money's coming from.

Oliver Dowden?

# ¿ Mar 14, 2022 08:59

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Failed Imagineer posted:

He's the Wario of the good Finkelstein

Norman?

# ¿ Mar 15, 2022 23:58

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therattle posted:

but Iran isn't a paragon of virtue and I'd hesitate to embrace them warmly.

Thankfully the West can't be blamed for *that* situation...oh we can? Well, gently caress.

# ¿ Mar 16, 2022 14:24

Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1504357303323172869 to the surprise of nobody.

# ¿ Mar 17, 2022 09:53

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Borrovan posted:

Wait if that's why Ian Austin is a dog nonce then who was the one that was found to have accessed porn that was legal at the time but illegal by the time it came out (narrowing it down to bestiality or drawn images of children)?

Damian Green. I thought that law also covered fisting, BDSM and a few other things too.

On the P&O thing, apparently the workers are classed as "seafarers" which means their employment rights are very different. No idea how true that is.

Lungboy fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Mar 17, 2022

# ¿ Mar 17, 2022 22:11

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jaete posted:

Hello friends. Have been chatting with a friend of mine who's planning to study at a uni here in the UK.

Turns out I don't actually understand any loving thing at all about the UK university system (not surprising since I've never studied here).

So, is the following roughly accurate:

- Assume a person with a bachelor's (or master's or whatever) degree from a non-UK university, for example a European uni.
- This person wants to do a bachelor's degree here in the UK, in a UK uni.
- This is not possible. At all. Cannot happen - never will. If you have a degree already, you cannot do a bachelor's degree here in the UK, no matter what. Why? Because gently caress you. Simply not possible.
- The person decides therefore to lie to the UK university people (or whatever authorities) that they only have a secondary school diploma, no degree.
- The UK uni then says "ok, since you have no degree at all, you can do a bachelor's here".
- The person takes out a student loan and studies for 2-3 years or whatever and gets their bachelors.
- This process is totally fraudulent and based on the person lying to the UK uni people. However, lots of people do this all the time, with all kinds of UK universities, and they never get caught. So it's... fine? Like, for some value of fine. Apparently.

Surely I've misunderstood at least one, or hopefully all, of those steps above? Like, surely the system doesn't actually work like this?

Bonus followup question re master's degrees. Assume a variation of the above:

- Person has a bachelor's from a non-UK uni. They decide to tell this to the UK uni.
- UK uni says "ok you can study here, but only to do a master's degree, in that same field". Nothing else is possible, because gently caress you.
- Person says ok cool I'll do a master's. They now have exactly one year to do their master's. If they fall ill or whatever and don't finish in time, they cannot get any extra time or anything, and they also cannot take a break and continue later. If they fail to get their master's within this one year timeline, then gently caress you.

Again, I suspect my friend and I have badly misunderstood something and the system can't actually be this hosed up?

This doesn't sound correct. Anyone can do any number of degrees, but you can only get a student loan for one course at each level. On the Masters question it's likely that you can only do a master's in a field related to your undergrad as a Master's is built on the idea that everyone on it has a degree-level understanding of the subject already. That's normal.

# ¿ Mar 17, 2022 23:07

Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

jaete posted:

Well this would be a non-UK uni, with no non-UK loan or anything; then now later in the UK (as a resident), doing a "replacement" UK bachelor's or something.

Jaeluni's official info link says: "You�ll usually only get student finance if you�re doing your first higher education qualification". So does "first" mean "first ever anywhere in the world"? Or "first in the UK"?

So I'm thinking "no degree yet, honest guv" could mean "no UK degree yet" which is fine and non-fraudulent; or it could mean "no degree from any place anywhere in the world at all" which would be fraudulent (if you in fact have a non-UK degree). I've no idea which it is.

Apparently a lot of young resident non-UK people are doing the "no degree yet" thing, when they have a (non-UK) degree, so they can get UK student loans and... is this some massive fraudfest or not. (And does any authority actually care. Also: what is going on)

It's first anywhere iirc, they won't give loans to people who already have that level of qualification no matter where you obtained it.

e: I think this might be waived for certain NHS degrees, but not sure.

# ¿ Mar 18, 2022 01:39

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jiggerypokery posted:

He said that caroles tweet was "just not true" when it objectively is true that RT pushed and paid farage.

The thing is that everything bastani said was true as well. It just may turn out that his connection to RT is criminal which can't be said of the BBC, even though British media is obviously much more culpable for him.

Everyone is right basically and this is the sort of argument that makes nuclear oblivion seem like a nice break from it all.

It could be down to the way Twitter shows nested tweets, but Carole's point was that RT was what made Farage so mainstream as to be dangerous. Bastani was pointing out that that was bollocks as nobody watched RT while Farage has been on QT more times than any other guest this century, had an LBC show, was on HIGNFY repeatedly etc etc etc. Pointing out that Carole missed the wood for the trees isn't defending Farage.

# ¿ Mar 20, 2022 23:58

Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

This is grim

https://twitter.com/snaprep/status/1505821297112145922?s=21

# ¿ Mar 21, 2022 17:51

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Jedit posted:

It's the follow-up that has the more important part: over 2000 warrant cards are missing. That's 2000 potential fake coppers on the street.

Is that any worse than 2000 actual coppers on the street?

# ¿ Mar 22, 2022 15:15

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https://twitter.com/cymrurouge/status/1506534006736793605?t=kfR0bTB-UyRZv68ed7DKEw&s=19

Inflation at stupid levels, surely Super Sunak will save us....

https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1506399371792896007?t=YaBb3Kd-VbiLY4VKiPHS8Q&s=19

Ah.

# ¿ Mar 23, 2022 08:55

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Josef bugman posted:

Is the bit where France is actually mainly inside of GMT but is an hour ahead not the dumbest?

Not just France, but Spain, Portugal and lots of other western European nations too. Germany is where it starts to make sense.

# ¿ Mar 23, 2022 15:02

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

Apropos of nothing, why did nobody tell me about The Repair Shop (the BBC show, not an actual place)? I've been binging it while on my little covid holiday and it's like it's been made specifically for me. The setup is pretty simple, people bring in old stuff that's broken, a team of specialists fix it.

What makes it amazing is that it's almost all just normal consumer goods - a 70s Dalek toy, a clockwork musical box Menorah, a mass-market Chesterfield armchair from the 80s - or even just homemade stuff, that has massive sentimental value for the people involved. They give you a couple of minutes of the history of the thing (both commercial and personal) then craftspeople doing their thing, explaining what they're doing and the mechanics of the object, then of course the big emotional reveal of the repaired object. It's all also beautifully shot and edited, just perfect, gentle television that tickles both the nerd and the schmaltz centres of my brain. I'm starting to think about the Beeb the way libs do just because of this one show.

I think they just canned it

# ¿ Mar 24, 2022 11:26

Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

These are bonkers

https://mobile.twitter.com/wyattreed13/status/1507005846701568006

https://twitter.com/wyattreed13/status/1507555204371255298

# ¿ Mar 26, 2022 18:12

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fuctifino posted:

None of the UK 'Ideal Orgs' have been created, and the buildings purchased for them have been left to rot.

Yeah they bought an historic building down here and have done gently caress all with it since, bar cleaning up some fly-tipped crap that the local MP asked them to sort. Locals (me included) have been asking the MP and council to force them to sell the building so it can be redeveloped but the MP and council keep saying they would rather the owner sort it out for *reasons*.

e: how it started: https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2019-05-20/historic-plymouth-building-to-be-converted-into-south-wests-biggest-scientology-church

how it's going: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/church-of-scientology-accused-of-allowing-historic-buildings-to-fall-into-disrepair/ar-AATODf9

Lungboy fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Mar 29, 2022

# ¿ Mar 29, 2022 10:55

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feedmegin posted:

Shockingly, things other than crimes make the papers. Remember David Mellor and his toesucking? (Ok most people probably don't now )

It was the Chelsea shirt wot done for Mellor.

# ¿ Apr 6, 2022 10:22

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serious gaylord posted:

Interestingly its clear the tories are briefing against Rishi.

What on earth makes you think that?

https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1512054869905096712

Oh.

# ¿ Apr 7, 2022 14:47

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https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1512198659403829249

They're really going after Super Rishi, it's great.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2022 00:14

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Darth Walrus posted:

Someone pointed out that literally every time a minister gets monstered, it'll shortly be followed up by 'Westminster insiders have pegged Michael Gove as a potential replacement', so it may be less a crab bucket and more a single particularly aggressively grabby sea creature.

This seems particularly Boris-shaped rather than Gove.

# ¿ Apr 8, 2022 13:22

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Mega Comrade posted:

What's he done to annoy the media? Did Lizz Truss pull some favours? They were drawing him in loving capes only 2 years ago.

This all seems to be down to Boris being a huge loving baby and not liking to be told "no" by Rishi and the treasury.

# ¿ Apr 9, 2022 11:06

Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

A few bad apples https://twitter.com/mikewhoatv/status/1512786933050617856

# ¿ Apr 11, 2022 07:03

Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

I went for a job interview in the Netherlands today and saw a bunch of these evil looking ducks which are actually Egyptian Geese, apparently.

# ¿ Apr 11, 2022 19:51

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goddamnedtwisto posted:

Over a hundred tons of asphalt (the sticky stuff they mix with aggregate to make tarmac) melted and fell onto the foreshore

Woah woah woah, I thought Tarmac was just a brand name for asphalt (like Hoover or Perspex), and that it was aggregate + bitumen. Is that not the case?

# ¿ Apr 12, 2022 14:19

Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Boris and Rishi have received 6 fines between them.

Fabricant has been a oval office again today, so the RCN wrote him a nice letter

# ¿ Apr 13, 2022 00:26

Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Keep in mind that these are one-way tickets, there's no expectation that anyone deemed "legitimate" will be brought back to the UK, rather that they'll be encouraged to make a new life in Rwanda.

# ¿ Apr 14, 2022 10:49

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Private Speech posted:

It's not like it's the safest country in the world.

Boris just said it was!

Is there any chance this gets ruled unlawful the first time it's challenged?

# ¿ Apr 14, 2022 11:09

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WhatEvil posted:

I get what somebody was saying earlier about "We should object to this because it's fascism, not because it's expensive" but also:

https://twitter.com/chriscurtis94/status/1514493348643581954?s=20&t=eEuwBU9xmuC6sN5dOVSV4g

I agree with this.

Some people will only see it in terms of money cost.

Like it would literally be cheaper just to build a house for each person that comes to the UK and house them in it and give them free IKEA furniture and a flatscreen TV and all the other shite that people already seem to believe happens when refugees are let in, than it will be to send them to Rwanda.

As a counterpoint

https://twitter.com/EdmundGriffiths/status/1514559339004104705?t=dUChIZdupTayOcojXWHdxQ&s=09

# ¿ Apr 14, 2022 23:47

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keep punching joe posted:

Are families being broken up or shipped out wholesale?

I saw some confirmation that children and if accompanied then their parent(s?) wouldn't be sent to Rwanda, but anyone else is fair game.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2022 10:33

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Mega Comrade posted:

I can't help but feel this is gonna be u-turned and its all a way to distract from party gate.

But that might be just my wishful thinking.

It's reliant on the Borders Act going through parliament at the moment, and even then it's likely to get snarled up in the courts for a long time the second someone tries to deport someone.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2022 11:14

Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

My only experience of catching the bus in London was to jump on the middle door, not pay, then jump off a few stops later. Isn't that what everyone does?

# ¿ Apr 16, 2022 10:53

Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

I went up on Harford Moor today, it was glorious.

# ¿ Apr 16, 2022 21:23

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Everyone should commute on ebike or motorbike :colbert:

# ¿ Apr 17, 2022 14:34

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 13:33

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Gwaint posted:

At the rate things are going I will not be voting Labour in any upcoming elections. I will spoil my ballot as a way to broadcast, in a very minor and controlled sense, the absolute rage I feel that there is no credible left option.

I believe it was Peter Mandeson who said 'the left will fall in line; they have nowhere else to go'. To say I take issue with this would put it lightly. You cannot count on my vote merely by being a slightly lesser evil. And I argue, should Labour get in, this will be our downfall; it will legitimise Starmer's tactics and it will serve as a very huge flashing sign that 'socialism will never work'. As more and more people become disillusioned and angry at the status quo for continuing to worsen our lives economically and socially, more and more people will slide rightwards as a way to address the failing system. We know fascism will use this as an opportunity to demonise minorities and disadvantaged.
That's why I won't be voting Labour anytime soon. The party has to fall and a viable leftist option has to take its place.

Yep, this sums it up succinctly. A Labour party one step to the left [citation needed] of the Tories is no improvement and only serves to show that they were right to vilify Corbyn and drag to party to the right. gently caress that.

# ¿ Apr 19, 2022 09:48

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