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everdave posted:Enter your vin at epc-data.com may get you a little further Same thing there, just leads to the same part numbers on Amayama, which are out of stock. I might be able to piece together used ones from regular scrap Accords, but they might all be 25 years old, and that's not exactly what I want to put on top of a brand new suspension. What I have found are 51- and 52675-S84-A01, which are the mounts for the US model of 98-02 Accord. It's a gamble if they fit or not, but they might be my only hope at this point. Any opinions on whether or not this might work is highly appreciated!
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Honda loves their Lego parts. Usually the type r bits bolt onto non type r cars and vise versa but I'm speaking from experience with civics and integras. So probably? But I don't actually know.
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honda whisperer posted:Honda loves their Lego parts. Usually the type r bits bolt onto non type r cars and vise versa but I'm speaking from experience with civics and integras. This is my thought (based on no first hand knowledge  ). The shock/strut may have different damping on the R but I can't imagine a mount is going to be different unless they change durometer but not the dimensions.
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Suburban Dad posted:This is my thought (based on no first hand knowledge The mounts I have found available were for the 98-02 EU V6 coupe and 03-07 sedan, and it looks like I can get mounts for the 98-02 US 2,3 and 3,0 model. Fingers crossed that some of them will fit! I e-mailed every independent Honda specialist in the UK today to see if they have any idea, so we'll see if anyone gets back to me.
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Good luck. I wouldn't be surprised of none of them fit though - the European Accord of that era was closer to the CB Accord which was a couple of generations older.
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Do you have an equivalent to rock auto there? Does anyone have KYB quickstruts for the car? It seems the front suspension might be the same but if you can get proper part numbers you can figure it what might work from rockauto.
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What about the Acura TSX? It was based on the European Accord. The TSX was released in 2002 but it may have shared some parts with the previous generation.
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dissss posted:I wouldn't be surprised of none of them fit though - the European Accord of that era was closer to the CB Accord which was a couple of generations older. Might be worth looking up fitment on the CB mounts then? CB Accord parts are still fairly easy to find (not OEM, but they have a good aftermarket).
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The mounts I have found for sale (S84) are for the Acura TSX, so they are my best hope, as at least in pictures they look exactly the same as the ones I want. CB ones look very different. I have found some leads on eBay and on UK parts, so hopefully I'll figure it out. Still need to take the car to a bodyshop to get a clean bill of health on the body though, so that I know that it's worth starting to fix the suspension.
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I have a feeling that CL7/CL9 parts are bit too new. Maybe check out Rover 600/800 parts bin as well?
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Need to return about 1500 lbs of flooring? No problem, and at the same time you can get a wicked stance! Also behold the differently colored rear door that I got replaced on the rust warranty and someone promptly keyed the week after, and I'm still wondering how the gently caress someone managed to dent my car above the tail light! I ordered these front mounts https://www.ebay.com/itm/234895202622 and some generic 98-02 Honda Accord rear mounts, so we'll see if they actually fit. I also ordered a ton of small suspension bits on Amayama:  I don't want to lower the car, so actually picking what shocks I want is next, and I'm partial to Bilsteins. Next steps will be to empty my shed of all the garbage from decorating my new house, so that I can get some space to take out and store the rear seats and trunk trim, and then get any and all rust repaired, before it's suspension and ceramic coating time!
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I'm still piecing together a new suspension, and have most of the small bits, but have not decided on which shocks yet. I'm leaning towards Bilstein. During easter, I took out the back seats and trunk trim, and dried and cleaned everything underneat, as quite a bit of water and moisture had built up during winter. I also polished up the foggy headlight with a 3M restoration kit. It was scary at first, but turned out really well. I fitted Hybrid Racings shifter bushings, which helped restore a bit of feel in the shifter. I also got a new Sony head unit, with lighting to match the interior. Also, because I have absolutely zero sense of financial self preservation, I delivered the car for three days of cleaning, polishing and ceramic coating. It's absolutely stupid to spend this kind of money on a lovely old car, but it also got stupidly shiny! The guys at the detailing place loved it, and they said that they had had tons of people comment on how cool it was, which feels pretty good! There is a brand new Ioniq 6 in the background which also had gotten coating, and the Honda had ended up shinier than the Hyundai.     
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The daily driver E91 is just a neverending list of tasks, and it was way overdue some TLC (along with several service items) The heater fan has been squealing for a couple of years. I did buy a used fan when it first started, and today I decided the time was right!  I used this guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2shArB7RnE Getting the motor out took 30 seconds. Getting it back in though took me almost an hour, and I finally ended up on my back with my head in the passenger footwell and my feet sticking out the door, so that I could see everything line up. Thankfully the used motor I got blew air perfectly fine. A German car must of course have nice soft plastics, which of courser turns sticky with time. I never have people in the back, but the front passenger door handle was way overdue to be replaced. I ordered a kit of door handles on eBay, and followed this guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxhiZgN9FuI The door panel on an E9x comes off super easy:  No more sticky plastics: 
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evobatman posted:Getting the motor out took 30 seconds. Getting it back in though took me almost an hour, and I finally ended up on my back with my head in the passenger footwell and my feet sticking out the door, so that I could see everything line up. Thankfully the used motor I got blew air perfectly fine. God, my TJ has this stupid loving twist-in fan setup too. Easy removal, installation is loving awful.
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Hey, I have some BMW jack point specific stuff from my E87 days sitting around that noone wants to buy, do you want it? It's from ReverseLogic, which I think somehow retired or went out of business, but it's decent quality stuff. This is just what I have pics of on hand, it's the little blocks on top of the jack stands. I'll keep the stands, I think, too expensive to ship.  
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bolind posted:Hey, I have some BMW jack point specific stuff from my E87 days sitting around that noone wants to buy, do you want it? It's from ReverseLogic, which I think somehow retired or went out of business, but it's decent quality stuff. I didn't even see this until now! Thanks for the offer, but I think shipping from wherever you are to Norway won't be economically feasible.
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Well lads, we finally made it! When I bought the car, the previous barely-out-of-his-teens owner said that he had undercoated the car himself. The inspection I asked him to have done mentioned unspecified rust attacks under the car, and when I brought it to a shop for the initial check, they said that the car was good, but I should find someone to sandblast the front subframe. After the ceramic coating I went to an undercoating place and asked them to check under the car if they could work on it, or if there were big repairs that needed doing first. They laughed at the previous owners attempts, and said it all had to be removed, but there were no big issues that would stop them from working on it. They stripped off all the old undercoating, sandblasted everything under and coated it with Mercasol. I decided to go with that instead of fluid film/wool oil, as I specifically wanted the sandblasting and rust removal. From the undercoating, I drove it right for the EU safety and environment check (MOT check, state inspection equivalent), and it passed on the first try! That's it! The car is running well, legal, inspected and certified. Sure it leaks a bit of oil from the sump, the drivers seat and steering wheel is worn, the exhaust hits the body when going over bumps and the engine still jumps around a bit from the old engine mount that is out of stock everywhere, but it is now protected from the environment and should run for many many years! Thank you to everyone who followed the thread, I will keep posting small improvements and pictures, because I just can't stop thinking of how cool it is whenever I look at it! One of the few things the previous owner actually did right, a new downpipe and flex hose:  Apparently the cat on these are extremely high quality and very valuable, so I was happy to see that it was still there. Previous owner said it wasn't when I asked him, so that's a good indication of how much he actually knew.  Waiting for its inspection next to a cool Audi. 
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She cleaned up real well.
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With the car coated, undersealed and inspected, it was time to take care of something long neglected (like everything else on the car): Getting some decent tunes! The car is stiff, harsh, full of noise and vibrations and has no sound deadening. It will never be a great environment for sound, so the aim is just to get acceptable quality and volume for road trips and spirited driving. Some previous owner installed a Clarion head unit with red and white lighting and a chrome strip, none of which fits in with the design of the dashboard.  I ordered a suitable Sony unit with adjustable colored lighting, and the install was just a plug and play into the ISO harness and DAB+ antenna.  It now looks much better, and I'm not personally offended every time I look at the dash:  Sound quality had been sketchy ever since I bought the car. I did pick up some 5.25" Pioneer speakers for $15 at a thrift store, because they couldn't possibly be worse than whatever was installed from before. Removing the door panel revealed THIS:  Yes, that is wood screws and duct tape and a gas station level 6.5" speaker in an unholy union! After a lot of faffing about and trying to make my own adapter rings, I found that the best thing to do was simply to reverse the original Honda adapters to hold my thrift store Pioneers:  I had a few issues getting sound, and googled around:  Turned out a speaker wire was hitting ground inside the door, so I applied some electrical tape, and all was well. Some other previous owner fitted 6.5" Infinity 6532 speakers in the rear shelf, using three-four inch screws through the metal. The speakers are decent quality, so I'm leaving them there for now, but I did flip over the +3dB switch on the tweeters, which was previously disabled.  All finished and buttoned up, it's infinitely better than the trash stereo that was there before! I did a 120 mile shakedown drive since the car is "finished", and the most pressing things to get fixed are the rear engine mount to reduce engine bucking, and brake pedal feel. The brakes are from the Honda NSX and bite strong, but I don't like how mushy the pedals feel, so braided hoses might be on the horizon.
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Super common spongy pedal Honda issue is the rear calipers, assuming disc brakes. Compressing the rear pistons is one of those turn with pressure deals, and the piston has cross milled into it. The rear pads have a nubbin that sticks up and should slot into that cross. If the cross and nubbin don't line up right you'll have a mushy pedal.
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The "engine mount repacked with window urethane" trick mentioned before is well worth trying as a temporary measure, literally the only downside is slightly increased vibration in the cabin. I'm also surprised you haven't replaced or had refitted the wonky exhaust but sounds like it's not as bad as you originally thought. Love the colour, love to see cars like this rescued and taken care of. tinned owl fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Jun 13, 2023 |
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tinned owl posted:The "engine mount repacked with window urethane" trick mentioned before is well worth trying as a temporary measure, literally the only downside is slightly increased vibration in the cabin. I tried this with a CB9 Accord and it did last a weekend Gambler 500, but not much longer.
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The exhaust really came into its own when the timing belt was changed, since that fixed the whole engine characteristic. I could still wish for a little more noise at full VTEC, but that's not exactly a priority. It still hits up into the body over bumps, but a lot less now ever since it got undercoating. I'm guessing the guys must have unhooked it for access, and then fastened it better. Just yesterday I ordered a used engine mount from eBay, and I'm giving it to a friend who works at a printing press to make a replica in their well-equipped shop. A company also makes a urethane insert for the front mount, so I'll order up one of those for when it's time to replace the rear one. And yes, I dearly love the paint color, ever since I saw it for the first time over 20 years ago! It probably wasn't a great idea to ceramic coat over stone chips, but my primary goal was preservation for the future, not concours-level detailing.
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trouser chili posted:I tried this with a CB9 Accord and it did last a weekend Gambler 500, but not much longer. To be fair, Gambler 500 is just LITTLE bit harder on a car than daily driving. I've done the urethrae trick before, and aside from basically feeling like I'd swapped stiffer motor mounts in (feeling the idle a little more, really), they held up well really well. evobatman posted:It probably wasn't a great idea to ceramic coat over stone chips, but my primary goal was preservation for the future, not concours-level detailing. You did fine. You have something over the chips and metal for protection. Keep it coated or waxed and it should stay pretty close to how it is now.
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The heater fan on the E91 died AGAIN! Luckily there is no shortage of old BMWs being parted out by young guys who can't afford to fix them in the area, so I had a new one installed in less than 24 hours. It went a lot faster than last time, but it still ended up a head in footwell job, and my back is sore! Next job on the Honda is something that had been annoying me ever since I got it: The instrument cluster lights were horrible. They are originally amber, but by now 25 years old, burnt and weak and mostly useless. They completely wash out in our tunnels which have amber lighting inside, which means worse than useless, they can be directly dangerous! I ordered up some matching amber LED bulbs, and got to work prying on the 25 year old plastic surround. Only four screws, a couple of connectors and a million brittle clips hold it to the dashboard, so after sacrificing my fingertips it eventually came off.  Another four screws and three harness connectors hold the dials in. I swapped out the bulbs, and drove into the nearest tunnel, only to be met with this:  Of the five instrument cluster lights, only two were working! It was late Saturday night, so I drove home, parked the car and got some sleep. Sunday, and another try, and this time I took out the cluster with the car still in the parking garage, so that I could clearly tell if the bulbs were working or not before buttoning everything up! Pulled the cluster again, now in just a few minutes  This time I took the cluster inside and used electronics cleaner and cotton swabs to clean out the bulb sockets and cluster PCB contacts on the three non-working bulbs. The swabs came up pretty black, so it must have had some effect! Bingo!  Strong and beautiful lights, in the original amber color, and they work with the cluster dimmer! I've been driving around hitting as many tunnels as possible today, just to admire them! While I had the cluster out I also pulled the microphone for the Sony head unit up behind the a-pillar trim, so I now have handsfree calling and voice control for navigation and music through Google assistant. Not bad for a 25 year old car!
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Took a trip out to one of my favorite spots for photos and spectacular mechanical views
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Well, I was finally stupid enough to stick my head in the drivers footwell to check it out. Those spots are coming from inside the double firewall. They'll be on the budget for next year though. Last year and this year have been hard on the wallet with a new old house, two cars and finally having vacations after the pandemic, and the E91 is scheduled for new discs, pads, fluids and some other small stuff that adds up quickly. I've looked at getting a newer car, but there just isn't anything out there that I want. Even though the E91 is worthless and the Honda is a money sink, I don't mind spending money on them, as I consider it just the price of owning cars I like. At least with the old cars I can schedule repairs when I want to or even not at all, while a monthly payment for a new car happens every month whether you like it or not. Seriously, just look at this! How can you not love it? 
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One of the last trips while it's still summer tire conditions. I will never stop taking pictures of this car!   
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Can’t blame you at all wanting to take care of the car. Keep it up!
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That is an absolutely GORGEOUS color on that car. Dark metallic purple looks great on so many levels. I would LOVE to paint a Towncar that color... 
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I am so glad you got it up and running properly! That looks like such an interesting car to someone in North America, and I bet it's a blast to drive.
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My old lovely BMW station wagon was getting too old, worn and unreliable, so I bought a slightly less old BMW station wagon, a 2015 320d XDrive. Tons and tons of equipment on it. My must haves were adaptive cruise control and power rear hatch, but it also has 360 degree cameras, panorama glass roof, Harman/Kardon surround sound, heads up display and all kinds of BMW M Sport equipment.   
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Old and new next to each other The Honda is parked for the winter, but I have bought used EGR parts and engine mounts to start preparing for spring.
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New season, new opportunities for poor financial decisions! First of all, a team of specialists attacked the BMW and removed the studded winter tyres. They've been pure poo poo to drive on on the wet asphalt we have 98% of the time from fall to spring, but the 2-3 days we had real snowy roads they were brilliant. The summer 18s were put on, with Nokian Hakka Blacks in the front and very worn Bridgestone S001s in the rear. Nice tires that really brought the F31 M-Sport chassis back to life, but the Bridgestones are on their third year of "just one more season". I'll replace all four with a set of Michelin Primacy HPs this summer, since this is the daily driver for both of us and Pilot Sport 5s will be a bit overkill.  I did a thorough cleaning of the interior over several days. The seats had never been done, so when I sprayed cleaner on there was streams of grey poo poo running off of them! I used a semi-stuff brush to really get into them, so that next time they can just be wiped off with a cloth. The result was spectacular, and they have gone from stiff, shiny and sticky to a matte soft smooth finish.   The door lock pins were rattling, which is a common issue on F30s. The solution is to cut up some Ikea furniture pads and put them in the surrounds.  I ran the car through a car wash, and this was the final result!   Remaining tasks for the BMW is to find some decent wipes for the hard plastic interior, an oil change and brake fluid service, new tyres, polishing and ceramic coating (really needed since it's parked outside) and underbody sealant. The budget is already stretched a little, so the last two might wait until next year. The Honda has been parked for the winter, except for 2-3 trips after a lot of rain that has washed the road salt away. The brake pedal and worn rear engine mount was still annoying me, so I bought a new front mount and added a Strongflex urethane insert, and I took a chance on a rear engine mount from a US Accord 2.3 liter.   I had already bought a used Type R rear engine mount so that I would know how it should look. With the exception of the top part and thicker rubber, the US mount was similar. A friend who has access to some heavy tools made short work of it!  I sent the mounts and the car off to the shop, and also got an alignment, brake and clutch fluid change and oil change. Picking it up in the rain and snow yesterday I didn't get much of a chance to drive it, but it felt more tight and solid just when turning the key! Definitively more NVH on idle, but that goes away as soon as the engine gets a few hundred more revs, and it's not like this car is for comfort anyways!  No pictures of the Honda because of the weather, but it's dirty and covered in paw prints from the cats that for some reason climb on it in the garage when it's parked. Next on the schedule for the Honda is to get the footwell/firewall rust looked at, but that can wait until next year! For this year, there will be many trips, and many pictures to come!
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Thank you! The old E91 was getting a bit too long in the tooth, and the gf said she would go half in on a new car since after all we share a life together. She trusted me to pick one, and I looked through over 400 listings to find the spec I wanted without having to finance. It came down to this and a 2012 F11 530XD, and finally this one won since it had DAB, was newer and had less miles. Still sad I didn't get those F11 comfort seats, but the F31 has been perfect since I picked it up.
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The weather was nice and pleasant, and it was time to do another project I've been wanting to do for a while! I've noticed when I have forced the car on my friends and girlfriend that the passenger seat is much nicer than the drivers seat, which is pretty worn after 25 years of boy racers and noodle farts. When I'm sitting in the drivers seat, I'm basically sitting on the seat frame, with very little padding. The Recaros in the car are virtually identical, with the only difference being the drivers seat having an inflatable lumbar support cushion, which has stopped holding air long ago. The plan is to swap the right and left seat, and swap the seat rails between them. The gf bought me a kit consisting of a wet/dry vac, impact driver and air pump, so two out of the three will be used.  The impact driver made short work of the seat bolts. The passenger seat comes out the front door, while the drivers needs to go out the back door.  The rails were swapped over quickly, just four bolts on each seat. The seats have no cables for airbag sensors or anything else. While the seats were out, I took the opportunity to vacuum the 25 years of crud in the carpet and clean the sides of the center console. A deeper cleaning would have been nice, but I'm working in our apartment complex, so I can't sit here for too long.  With the seats back in, I sat in the now new drivers seat, and instantly got back the feeling I had of sitting in a brand new Accord Type R over 20 years ago! I could only take a short drive, but the car makes so much more sense now! Definitively one of the biggest improvements I've made to the car, and most likely the only mod that will ever be profitable to do, since I found $2 in change under the seats!
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