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One thing I'd like to see in future debates if they happen, and I pray that they do not, is a segment where participants are asked questions like "Would $5 be enough to buy a carton of eggs?" and "What is the average rent where you live/in your district" just because I'm absolutely confident that the answers would be hilarious
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It's gonna be Biden because otherwise it's Harris who would probably handle a full actual campaign season even worse than worst case Biden. Nobody's gonna discourage anything, at least not anymore because "Biden runs in 2024 = Bernie doesn't" is now the math, and more to the point that's not how gerontocracies work. On a personal level I just wish they'd done something so that my vote for anybody in their party above the level of city councilor actually had any impact on anything, like they said they wanted to do, but welp what can ya do. I've at least got some good downballot people to vote for I'm wrong about these things 9 times out of 10 tho so here's hoping Biden pulls a wild card and endorses Bernie. Maybe the party would fall behind him and maybe it would implode UK Labour-style but at least it couldn't be described as confused and directionless anymore
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Apr 20, 2022 22:56
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FlamingLiberal posted:The party would absolutely implode if Biden endorsed Bernie. This is my guess as well but like I said, this cycle I'm going to try to humiliate myself a bit less with bold predictions. I mean if it happened, which obviously it won't. Bloomberg's just gonna give half the national level membership of the party 1 million bucks each to defect to his new Hate Guns Love Landlords Party
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Apr 20, 2022 23:12
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30 year mortgages with a fixed rate isn't a scam because it's what rich people and people who matter politically otherwise are all getting, and more importantly it's the vehicle that got many of them rich and politically powerful in the first place, hence the desire to pull the ladder up to keep number going up because the next logical step is to get great terms then have somebody else pay your mortgage for you with a generous bonus for your hard work of owning something. The scam ones are stuff like adjustable rates and the current "downpayment assistance" companies that people desperate to get their foot on the first rung of the ladder are being tricked into getting, aka programs where the haves are entirely on the other side. Housing should be a human right but isn't, it's a commodity bought and sold on markets that regulate themselves with the confidence of a full bailout if they go too far. Housing is a knife held up to your throat for most people most of the time and if you asked every single person with any power at all you may find 3 who will say this needs to change. If you can get in you almost certainly should and you should use whatever means you have at hand. The only two alternatives are nationalization of housing stock that is then made available at 99 year 0% interest terms to maximize how many people can buy in, or a Maoist-informed revolution against the very foundations of late capitalist economy (rent seeking and labor discipline) I think it'd be useful to delineate discussion between macro and micro on the topic when we are discussing it, because mixing the two ends up being a powderkeg because they're obviously completely irreconcilable at the present moment and also because there's a lot of interesting and relevant stuff to discuss on both levels. It's not often I can say this but at least it's not as bad as Canada, from what I hear at least. At the micro level you've just gotta get along as best you can and use whatever tips and tricks are handy, at the macro level obviously the discussion isn't about individual survival at all but a class war against the propertied or I guess "what we're doing now but slightly different, again" Willa Rogers posted:Taxes, and utilities. Yeah my utilities are separate and any tax hike just gets passed along to me in addition to the 10% or so it was going to go up for no reason anyway as a renter. Willa Rogers posted:Heat has been traditionally & usually covered in rentals in the Chicago metro area but more landlords are switching to unit-based register heating from steam radiators, alas. My first apartment had heat included in the rent and man was that great during the winter lol, I miss it
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Willa Rogers posted:Also, there's lots of hostility out there toward electric companies that spike their rates weekdays between 5 and 9 pm. Like, if you have kids to feed & laundry to do after work, better to take a nap, let the kids fend for themselves, & then you get up at 3 am, I guess. Those reports are always fawning for me (because I live in a shoebox and 80% of my zone it counts is big single family houses lol) The power company did send me like a decade supply of LED bulbs for free so that was cool, but rates are way higher here than when I lived in Indy which ain't great though my complaining is tempered thanks to reading the UK thread as well Professor Beetus posted:It's a minor inconvenience in the grand scheme of things, but I was always a fan of apartment complexes having an agreement with Comcast to prevent you from going with another option for internet/cable, even in places which have competition or god forbid even municipal options. The midwest is funny because in a lot of places you'll have extensive fiber networks in the exurbs and rural regions (but not SUPER rural obv) that stop right at city lines because ATT/Comcast fight it tooth and nail. Wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't a thing elsewhere too.
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Apr 21, 2022 18:31
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Basically agree with everything you said, but: Yeah, which is why I try to draw a line between the boring safe stuff and the stuff designed to prey on people, and as an added gently caress you to people you can get hurt by this stuff even if you rent if your landlord was the one who was a huge idiot. It's not uncommon but it's necessarily going to become less common over time as the natural consequence of housing prices needing to always go up becoming a central pillar of our economy. If 100% of homeowners had them now it'd still be a mortally wounded system. It's not just a strictly financial decision at the micro level because in addition to equity you're building, you're also moving up on the political ladder which is an inherently safer place to be than being a renter who as a class basically do not exist except as a pool of rubes who almost certainly cannot afford to defend themselves from the higher status predators During the great ripping off that was the oughts I was waiting tables making barely above poverty and still had people insisting I could own a home in the high CoL community I was working in. It was honestly pretty funny how nobody could answer "and what if they decide they want the house I've been paying for and maintaining all of a sudden so decide to make it unaffordable for me?" when I asked, then it turned out the lenders didn't even need to go that far
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Not a proper company town if it's paying its workers in USD, doesn't sound like this arrangement is much different than most big universities have with the cities they are located in tbh, not to say that's necessarily good of course and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the language of this messaging bill was copied over from the various threats to these arrangements that GOP state parties have made before. It's a long favored tactic. As far as the workers are concerned, I doubt anything from this would register during any of their shifts considering how high the levels of insanity must be in a company that both has a 900 page book of exactly how their characters can be drawn or portrayed yet also tolerates the Kingdom Hearts franchise to exist. The one person I know who went down there to work said it was quite the nightmare but didn't mention sewage maintenance contracts
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Apr 22, 2022 15:12
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Lib and let die posted:The corporate history of Disney as a whole is insanely corrupt; when Walt was scouting places to built his park, the Florida government wasn't allowing anyone to buy up that much open green space at once, so Walt created shell companies within shell companies within shell companies to buy up individual parcels of land that in aggregate came to be what is the RCID district today. The company acquired the land by skirting the state government, it's time Pluto is brought to heel It's already not a planet anymore, must we kick a planetoid while its down
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RBA Starblade posted:Speaking of company towns and Disney wasn't Disney trying to make a "park" in the form of a town that people would live in but everyone but some of the "guests" who lived there full-time were employees putting on an act for them? What happened to that? I think that was the Star Wars Experience or whatever, or specifically a hotel set up to be a weeklong interactive experience. It was a bit of a black eye for them because despite being like 20k a head it was very half assed looking in the first photos of it that weren't mock-ups. I was under the impression it was basically just turning a hotel into a 24/7 interactive theater but I wouldn't be surprised if the property was registered as a cruise liner running a Panamanian flag
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There isn't really any anti-corporate element in any of this, it's a fine thing of course but it's not what's happening here, which to me is just a bog standard "even Disney isn't safe, so you, <entity much smaller than Disney> better think twice before opposing right wing rhetoric and policy regarding anything 'woke'". As someone has said already, it's about making shifting to being inclusive and diverse have a downside instead of just being a free and easy PR win. Naturally, it's also red meat for his base so they'll keep voting for him and people like him. What's the worst case scenario here, it succeeds and creates a huge mess for them to ignore and pass off to someone else? Like how is this any different than demanding extraction industries and not taxpayers build and maintain the roads to the locations that they are the exclusive user of and tear up with incredible speed? I hear that a lot. Gumball Gumption posted:Also the funniest/saddest part of all of this is how Disney never even cared. They were happy to say nothing about the bill until they got too much public heat for not saying anything. We have to stop DeSantis from taking Disney's special status because he wants to punish them because they felt forced into saying something and if Disney does lose special status it will primarily punish normal people instead of Disney. It's just an exhausting series of events that will punish the average person the most no matter the outcome. Yeah this came up in my mind with the Gina Carano poo poo. Like of course they knew all about how she was, she was given the boot because she was too stupid and too loud about it
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Harold Fjord posted:No one else has one of these special tax districts so what are they going to do? Make them the target of the week for the howling masses that make up their base and use the law however they can to gently caress them over in any way they can and make their lives hell? It's one of the most beloved tactics for the right and there is zero political cost for them to deploy it anymore. Like I said it's not about the special tax district, it's about making people who oppose them suffer and using that to make it easier to make others suffer in future
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Who here is saying that trans people should be sacrificed to ensure trans rights? That's not really my read on Clymer's statements there but it seems like a pretty extreme accusation to makeDeadlyMuffin posted:I have no idea who she is, but this sentiment seems reasonable to me. I think pretty much everything around 1/6 has just sort of fallen into a "okay so what" position where people will be interested when something is actually done about it. That's certainly where I'm at, and in fact seem to be more often than not with national level stuff ever since we had to spend 6+ months pretending that BBB wasn't dead dead dead as though Manchin hadn't said explicitly that he would ensure it died day 1. Like of course he's responsible and wow he did all this bad stuff, so what, what's anybody gonna do about it
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Apr 24, 2022 18:19
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Has pointing out hypocrisy knowing that it doesn't matter lost so much luster that we must instead pretend it is some kind of genocide independent of the real ones being proposed or something? This whole thing becoming some battle over if it's cultural appropriation both here and on the wider internet is a pretty great example of why I don't bother with anything except local stuff anymore. Clymer is a lanyard, of course she's got lots of really dumb and molten hot takes, hell I just saw Joy Reid say DeSantis is doing all the stuff he's doing because he's a socialist Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:You're doing it again. This, however is a very specific claim, please provide me with this quote. I'm catching up on the thread and suppose I may have missed it.
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Apr 24, 2022 18:46
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Okay so it's just as stupid and pointless as it appeared to be on the label, stop making bold statements about imagined figures and ascribing them to fellow posters and instead actually post about things that are going on in the US in the current era. Everybody here is well aware that that is a catjailing offense
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Apr 24, 2022 18:51
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Nonsense posted:https://twitter.com/sfchronicle/status/1518240369930088448?s=20 I just checked on this to be sure and Florida remains, alas, very real
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Shaking off the rust, who wants a weed themed 12 hour probation, limit 1
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Apr 28, 2022 03:32
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:My completely anecdotal LED experience is that I didn't really measure how much more efficient they were beforehand, but I replaced all my bulbs with LEDs 6 years ago and haven't had to replace a single bulb since. My power company sent me a big box of them for free like 4 years ago and I've still not had to dip back into them lol. They're more technically involved than normal ones tho so I can imagine a bad batch causing issues, but the old ones also had issues like that so I'm not inclined to hold it against them
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Thank you, now I can process reportsalf_pogs posted:damnit beaten You know what, just because you were almost as quick on the draw I'll find another weed image to give you a 12er with, don't let it be said that I am not benevolent
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Apr 28, 2022 03:39
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ex post facho posted:me plz Sorry please apply during the next application window, EHF's pool of funny weed images is much shallower than I'll admit I had thought it would be
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Actually pulling us out of Afghanistan despite the insane pushback from the mainstream press counts a lot in my book, I just wish my vote at the national level mattered enough to make it so it could feel like I was encouraging that sort of thing. Anyway looking forward to being the first state to be declared for Trump yet again lol
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PeterCat posted:3 months after the deadline that Trump had already negotiated. If Trump actually wanted to do it he would've done so by executive action well beforehand, this was clearly just hemming and hawing and hoping to pass it on to the next administration who he could expect would just ignore it as he had
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First they took my mango flavored Juuls, then they took my everything else re: nicotine vaping, now this. Outrageous! What further hoops must I jump through to merely suppress my appetite with this horrible and unpleasant drug now? I refuse to return to the ECA stack
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Upgrade posted:Also, new D&D rule proposal: if you're going to post about how in an apocalypse you are going to succeed as a lone wolf warrior who protects their neighbors you should have to post a picture of yourself doing at least ten pullups and running a mile to prove that your bragging has at least a basis of physical fitness credibility and therefore enough evidence to be taken seriously in D&D. A single picture could not convey whether or not someone is able to do 10 pull ups, which is self-evident. I'm afraid your demands are fundamentally incoherent and I implore you to reconsider them.
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I'll take this opportunity to possibly foolishly recommend, as I do every time a gun derail comes up in this thread as it does even in these cases where it's an existing rule being elaborated upon and not some new push toward Dumb Overelaborated Gun Law 1995, that someone create a Gun Control in America thread for dedicated discussion if they've got a serious axe to grind and an OP to match. If only because it's something that doesn't seem to fare well in general discourse threads. Mind you, I say this not as a brunch lib or whatever but rather as a communist with a closet full of guns.
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TyrantWD posted:Being the party in power when something that got put in motion 6 years ago comes to pass means literally nothing. The judges nominated by Democrats aren't the ones making these decisions. This is way more than 6 years in the making, and even if that were the timeframe then it would fall on Obama for failing to fill that seat and instead trying to use it to encourage turnout when the GOP is so much better at that, or if it was truly impossible to do so because he didn't hold the Senate, it would've been impossible for Hillary as well. Literally my entire life, conservatives have been loudly boasting about killing Roe and working toward it relentlessly, *I* took them seriously but distressingly few others with the power to stop them seemed to be among my fellow travelers in that regard.
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Of course a general strike would impact the SCOTUS, one successfully being organized and having their demands met would strike against two of the biggest historical mandates - the elevation of corporations over labor, and the shielding of the carceral state and coercive apparatuses of the government from restriction or accountabilityEiba posted:There's a big difference between West Virginia red and Georgia red. There are places that can more plausibly support actual Democratic senators. In fact there are few places as hostile to actual Democratic senators than West Virginia. She got more votes by far. The kind of votes that people like us can cast don't actually have any bearing on who becomes President. Who failed her and the party or whatever here anyway? Progressives are by far the most loyal dissenting bloc in this country, it's why they're so irrelevant. If Libertarians or ancaps held their nose for the GOP as reliably as progressives do for Dems Trump would be 2 years into his 2nd term.
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Eiba posted:I'm not talking to a bloc, I'm talking to the people criticizing the concept of "voting harder". I think if they sincerely believed Susan Sarandon or the pernicious bernie bros hold the Lathe of Heaven and constitute a force so powerful that they can decide who wins an election, they'd be trying to get them on their side. It's something that gets a lot of airtime but they got everything they asked for from progressives, they can own their losses or fail to and keep losing. Hillary got more votes than Trump, people voted harder for her than him! But who becomes President and who gets put on the court or what the court does isn't anything anybody posting in this thread actually has any input on.
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Agronox posted:"Loyal" is doing a whole lot of unjustified work here. Yep, and despite the rabble at the fringes even here they're a lot more likely to hold their nose than any other group of dissenting voices. Why is loyalty a stretch? It's not like you can cast a vote with a caveat, but they did vote, is the issue that they didn't write thank you cards or something? I was a good moderate in 2016 and voted for Hillary, I got blamed for her losing first because I was "young" (mid-30s lol) and then because I did some reading and thinking and separated myself from the party and liberalism. In 2020 I was told in no uncertain terms that they didn't want my vote, which wouldn't matter anyway because of where I live lol. I even voted for the guy who said he'd make Roe codified law back in 2008! I'm definitely not alone even in CSPAM when it comes to this background and as you move toward more real life examples of people with less extreme ideologies on the left you see the nose holding factor go up and up. Don't blame "the left" or whatever because the people we keep holding our nose for are loving terrible at their jobs. It's not even like it's only the loony lefties who are taking it as assumed that the Dems won't have anything like a coherent answer to this! Even here!
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Is there some other way I'm supposed to interpret these comments other than "yeah don't expect us to do anything"? It's less important than something they failed utterly to do and just sort of moved on from without ceremony? Like it's not even the usual talking points they've spent decades streamlining for these forced birther candidates in districts where taking a stand on anything is seen as too risky, did Newsom being mad at loud shake things up behind the scenes after all?
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May 6, 2022 18:51
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It should be Wisconsin so we get future hopefuls eating cannibal burgers instead of pork chops
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BiggerBoat posted:Not to get into a whole thing about it but could any of this possibly in any way be tied to the proliferation of firearms in this loving country? Where the number of guns outnumbers people? Just spit balling here so go easy on me. The role of "substance contaminating everything we come into contact with but nobody can talk about it because it's too fundamental to the economy" has shifted to microplastics from lead, however it remains to be seen if they make people the violent kind of insane instead of just causing huge spikes in types of cancer in populations you wouldn't expect it in
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:No, send them to the Colorado mountains and make them climb and smoke blunts and see who makes it to the top of the 14'er without passing out from altitude sickness or being too high. We need to reform the Presidential Primary process to start selecting for Presidents that are first and foremost hale and vigorous of constitution As a counter-point though, I propose that since pretty much any candidate will have smoked weed beforehand and still ended up where they have, they should have to do shrooms and submit to ego death instead Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Having "Dems Abroad" be the first primary would be pretty hilarious. Good on whoever is in charge of that for submitting the request. Didn't see that but I agree lmfao
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Now as ever, when you find yourself uncertain of how to proceed, consult Sage Krisol and then do the opposite
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Credibility of her strategy probably, her personal brand or image hasn't changed much and her base hasn't been scared off or anything. She tried to split the difference between the technocrats and commies and did worse than either as a result. In what is completely my own opinion tho she'd be a better one to run with than Harris but I think it's silly to presume Biden isnt gonna go for a 2nd term barring literal death
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It's still very, very funny to me that McCain's book about being a bad Republican or whatever sold worse than random self-published vampire erotica does. Bad sign for Kasich-types probably considering how enmeshed the whole "pay someone to write a book and some donor buys a million copies to donate to campaigns to give out for fundraising" scheme is in the right wing grift
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Very good points, as an aside the first person to quote this will get a 12 hour with a lovingly curated image of Lenin and a big truck
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Bel Shazar posted:Lenin IN a big truck or WITH a big truck? Alongside if that makes any difference, still up for it?
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Bel Shazar posted:Oh absolutely, it was a rhetorical question to avoid empty quoting. I thought so but wanted to be sure since I have more than one Lenin+Big Truck image. Enjoy!
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Oh dang I've got one more ready to go it appears, who here is a fan of boiled prawn and wants 12 hours to relax and enjoy themselves?
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